Confirmed Signing with Link: [MIN] F Yakov Trenin signs with the Wild (4 years, $3.5M AAV)
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Jeannot returned a whole class of draft picks and then a 2nd + 4th. Trenin returned a late 3rd.
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Dickie Dunn
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Not sure what you're trying to get at, Guentzel returned a hell of a lot more than Trenin.
If Jeannot was in a completely different realm than Trenin, he wouldn't have returned a 2nd + 4th a few days prior to Trenin signing this deal.
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Trenin was pretty garbage in the short stint for the Avs. We did miscast him as a center tho. Not surprised that his contract would be pretty terrible tho.
Trenin has been mostly bad. No offense to speak of, his toughness is not all that tough, and for a big strong guy, sure loses a lot of puck battles.
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It was always a bad contract and a poor fit roster wise.
The Wild did not need Yakov Trenin when they already have Marcus Foligno.
The Wild did not need Yakov Trenin when they already have Marcus Foligno.
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I'm not even sure how relevant the Foligno part is considering Trenin does none of the good stuff Foligno does and also no good stuff at all
Spot on in this part though
frightenedinmatenum2
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For people who watched him previously, has he been bad, or is this a case of people having unrealistic expectations? Is this a case of fans not valuing the type of role he was signed to fill? Or is he genuinely bad this year.
He was paid an inflated amount relative to his production and ice time because he is big and can play a checking game with tough deployment. A luxury 3rd or 4th liner. Teams need these players to do damage in the playoffs, and if you don't draft them you have to overpay.
He was paid an inflated amount relative to his production and ice time because he is big and can play a checking game with tough deployment. A luxury 3rd or 4th liner. Teams need these players to do damage in the playoffs, and if you don't draft them you have to overpay.
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Minnesota fans expected him to be a physical presence on the third line, be a good forechecker, be a good PKer. That's it. He hasn't been good at any of that. He's had a couple moments where you can see it might be in him, but 98% of the time he is useless.
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He's been one of the better Preds in the playoffs the last couple of years. He's one of the few guys that raises his play so maybe he'll do the same for the Wild.
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He was definitely looking really good in Nashville. In the big "Herd Line" year where he got 17 goals and Jeannot got 24, that line was basically our #2 line, and they were just steamrolling the opposition every night. I really thought Trenin might be able to keep up that type of presence as a heavy 15-20 goal guy. He always has this sort of "methodical" demeanor, like he's not running around trying to kill people or do fancy things, but he was just always solid, and you just knew that if you needed him to answer the bell he was going to show up and put that strength he has on display.
It's funny how "solid" has sort of transitioned into "plodding". How his "middle-6" capability has sort of become more like "adequate 4th line depth". He got paid for the persona he showed in Nashville, not for what subsequently happened with Colorado and (apparently) now in Minnesota. Hard to tell. John Hynes was his coach too in the days when he was at his best with the Preds, so it's not like the coach doesn't know what kind of player he used to be, compared to what he's doing now.
It's just very weird and surprising to me how hard Trenin and Jeannot have dropped off. It's funny, because Mathieu Olivier was the Jeannot-predecessor on that Herd Line, and nobody in Nashville was going to guess that Olivier was going to emerge as the keeper out of that group. Like, it would have been totally inconceivable. Yet here we are...
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Jeannot didn't surprise me by the time we made the trade, Trenin was a bit more of a surprise but we were already seeing signs of it when he was traded. He can't even blame a difference in coach because Hynes was his coach during those years.He was definitely looking really good in Nashville. In the big "Herd Line" year where he got 17 goals and Jeannot got 24, that line was basically our #2 line, and they were just steamrolling the opposition every night. I really thought Trenin might be able to keep up that type of presence as a heavy 15-20 goal guy. He always has this sort of "methodical" demeanor, like he's not running around trying to kill people or do fancy things, but he was just always solid, and you just knew that if you needed him to answer the bell he was going to show up and put that strength he has on display.
It's funny how "solid" has sort of transitioned into "plodding". How his "middle-6" capability has sort of become more like "adequate 4th line depth". He got paid for the persona he showed in Nashville, not for what subsequently happened with Colorado and (apparently) now in Minnesota. Hard to tell. John Hynes was his coach too in the days when he was at his best with the Preds, so it's not like the coach doesn't know what kind of player he used to be, compared to what he's doing now.
It's just very weird and surprising to me how hard Trenin and Jeannot have dropped off. It's funny, because Mathieu Olivier was the Jeannot-predecessor on that Herd Line, and nobody in Nashville was going to guess that Olivier was going to emerge as the keeper out of that group. Like, it would have been totally inconceivable. Yet here we are...
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That's true. Jeannot did fall off the map completely even for us even before we traded him. (Which made the haul we got for him all the more hilarious). But Trenin was still pretty much the same. The Herd Line wasn't the same anymore without Jeannot's contribution, but Trenin still seemed like a solid guy chipping in on offense, PKing, and just "being solid". And his playoff showings always made it seem like Trenin would be a great playoff add for a contender. But he just kind of "drifted off into oblivion" instead... Colorado didn't give up anything for him, good for them, but Minnesota definitely didn't get the player they thought they were signing for that pricetag. I'm more surprised about Trenin's demise than Jeannot's, likewise.
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I think Trenin has been our most disciplined forward on the PK, obviously it hasn't resulted in a ton of success but I think the others are much more consistently overreacting to plays and getting caught in no-mans land. His board play has been quite underwhelming compared to what I saw when he played in Nashville, really thought that was the idea, play him with Marat and let Marat fly around, rim pucks to corners and let Trenin battle or attack the net, simple hockey. But if the plan was to play him with Marat that's a 4th line wing role, and he's on a contract that is doubled in terms and almost doubled in $$$ to a UFA winger contract in our top-6(Johansson), that's simply terrible asset management. So yeah, the (poor) skating, (lack of) playmaking, and discipline/structure in our system are as expected for me, but everything else has been a disappointment.
I would prefer Duhaime the player last year to Trenin the player this year. If someone asked me in the off-season which I would've preferred, it would have been Trenin at even $$.
