Confirmed Trade: [MIN/CBJ] David Jiricek, 2025 5th round pick for Daemon Hunt, 2025 1st round pick, 2027 2nd round pick, 2026 3rd and 4th round picks

[DigitalBoldy]

Jiricek is not going to take minutes away from Faber, Spurgeon, or even Bogosian, who provides toughness and size that MN needs. Bogo ( a #3 oa pick, mind you), is fine as a 3rd pairing guy. Having said that, I can see Jiricek getting a few NHL games once if gets his defensive game in shape, as sooner or later a RHD will go down.

Ironically, Jiricek's rival for NHL time might be Spacek, who has been playing well. They are both starting to play on the #1 PP in Iowa.

He should take away from Bogosian. Bogosian has not been that great.

 

[majormajor]

3. Don't like what it does to Spacek and prefer my Czechs spread out. We don't have many on D and 2 in the same AHL system on the Right Side kind of sucks form a 'need NHL D' perspective

If / when they're good enough they'll play. Guys don't stay buried long if they're real NHL quality.

I do think Minny will win this trade in the end and Columbus will regret it. But that day is not today or tomorrow. Or next month. Or Spring. Maybe not even Fall.

I'm not sure who will have any regrets, or if either side will. But it won't be a soon thing, even if it looks that way at some point this year. You're right about that. My theory is that the Wild think their skating coach can get a breakthrough with Jiricek, and if that's their approach, we won't see the difference until next Fall.

Im here for my weekly Jiricek update. It looks like no matter the org, the reality is he still needs AHL seasoning. His agent really should have managed his PR better. How’s he looked in the AHL so far?

We can probably not do weekly updates and be okay.

When Jiricek can't go to the World Championshiops because he is battling for a Calder Cup for the second Spring in a row.. expect me to bitch loudly.lol

Does Jiricek get a shot running a PP on the national team?

Iowa isn't nearly as good as Cleveland, FWIW, so they're much less likely to have a Calder Cup run.

 

[57special]

He should take away from Bogosian. Bogosian has not been that great.

3rd pairing dmen are never "great"- that's why they are 3rd pairing D, but most MN fans think that Bogo is the strongest of the two D on that pairing. Again, he is the only D (now that Middleton is injured), who has any physicality to his game.

Jiricek couldn't get playing time on a lottery team because of skating and defensive issues. You now want him to replace Bogo, because... ?

 

[DigitalBoldy]

3rd pairing dmen are never "great"- that's why they are 3rd pairing D, but most MN fans think that Bogo is the strongest of the two D on that pairing. Again, he is the only D (now that Middleton is injured), who has any physicality to his game.

Jiricek couldn't get playing time on a lottery team because of skating and defensive issues. You now want him to replace Bogo, because... ?

Because he is the future and I would like him developing habits from Spurgeon as soon as possible. We could just play Bogosian next to Jiricek if we need a big strong guy in there. Wouldn’t hurt for Jiricek to learn from him too.

 

[Czechboy]

If / when they're good enough they'll play. Guys don't stay buried long if they're real NHL quality.



I'm not sure who will have any regrets, or if either side will. But it won't be a soon thing, even if it looks that way at some point this year. You're right about that. My theory is that the Wild think their skating coach can get a breakthrough with Jiricek, and if that's their approach, we won't see the difference until next Fall.



We can probably not do weekly updates and be okay.



Does Jiricek get a shot running a PP on the national team?

Iowa isn't nearly as good as Cleveland, FWIW, so they're much less likely to have a Calder Cup run.

I'd say he has a damn good chance actually. He'd be top 4.

Hronek won't be going as Nucks are playoff bound and he's currently out.

Gudas can go but he was on the gold medal team and I assume he denies it this year (and I respect it if he does).

That leaves his biggest NHL competition to be Jan Rutta .. he is UFA at end of season and probably declines as well (and I respect that too)

So he has NO NHL D to compete with. Just the Euro guys (which are good) but he has to beat out guys like Kempny, Zboril or Hajek. Last year, Spacek ran it on a much stronger team for perspective. So we'd play the living shit out of him!

to your other point... I do think Minny is a great place to develop his D and skating. His brother skates like the wind but has an iffy shot. He skates awkward but has a cannon. Need to fuse them together and we'll have a Czech Makar.lol

 

[majormajor]

to your other point... I do think Minny is a great place to develop his D and skating. His brother skates like the wind but has an iffy shot. He skates awkward but has a cannon. Need to fuse them together and we'll have a Czech Makar.lol

I've had the same thought. It's odd, given how good the Jiricek brothers are in other respects, that Adam has such a bad shot (it is very very bad) and David is such a bad skater (it is very very bad).

 

[DigitalBoldy]

I've had the same thought. It's odd, given how good the Jiricek brothers are in other respects, that Adam has such a bad shot (it is very very bad) and David is such a bad skater (it is very very bad).

You’ve never seen a very very bad skater if you think Jiricek is that.

 

[f7ben]

You’ve never seen a very very bad skater if you think Jiricek is that.

Let me introduce you to my friend Tronion!!!!

 

[NHL1674]

Let me introduce you to my friend Tronion!!!!

Poor Trenin.

 

[TheNumber4]

Jiricek is not going to take minutes away from Faber, Spurgeon, or even Bogosian, who provides toughness and size that MN needs. Bogo ( a #3 oa pick, mind you), is fine as a 3rd pairing guy. Having said that, I can see Jiricek getting a few NHL games once if gets his defensive game in shape, as sooner or later a RHD will go down.

Ironically, Jiricek's rival for NHL time might be Spacek, who has been playing well. They are both starting to play on the #1 PP in Iowa.

Thanks.

 

[PAZ]

Jiricek isn't a horrible skater. But it holds him back at the NHL level, he either needs to adapt his game or get better at skating. At the moment he's done neither of these, and i'm unsure if he's convinced he needs to.

 

[57special]

Daemon Hunt has 6 points in 9gp for Cleveland.
Jiricek has 1 pt. in 8 gp.

By all reports, Jiricek is no defensive genius, either. Hunt was, arguably, Iowa's best defensive Dman when he was there. Nor sure how he has been doing in Cleveland in that regard.

As a MN fan, sure hope there is a LOT of improvement in Jiricek's game, or we just gave away a lot of draft picks that could of been used for other things.

 

[AKL]

Daemon Hunt has 6 points in 9gp for Cleveland.
Jiricek has 1 pt. in 8 gp.

By all reports, Jiricek is no defensive genius, either. Hunt was, arguably, Iowa's best defensive Dman when he was there. Nor sure how he has been doing in Cleveland in that regard.

As a MN fan, sure hope there is a LOT of improvement in Jiricek's game, or we just gave away a lot of draft picks that could of been used for other things.

If it turns out poorly for us, well it is what it is, but this was always going to be a slower burn for us. Columbus got a guy who's more polished now but likely tops out as a 4/5. We got a guy who needs some work but has 1/2 potential. I'll never be upset about swinging for upside. No guarantee that the 1st is going to be better than Jiricek.

 

[stevo61]

Jiricek isn't a horrible skater. But it holds him back at the NHL level, he either needs to adapt his game or get better at skating. At the moment he's done neither of these, and i'm unsure if he's convinced he needs to.

He is and he's been everything Columbus fans warned others he would be right now. He's not bad in straight lines once he gets going but acceleration/agility/edgework/actual ability to stay on his feet are all very bad

 

[DigitalBoldy]

Daemon Hunt has 6 points in 9gp for Cleveland.
Jiricek has 1 pt. in 8 gp.

By all reports, Jiricek is no defensive genius, either. Hunt was, arguably, Iowa's best defensive Dman when he was there. Nor sure how he has been doing in Cleveland in that regard.

As a MN fan, sure hope there is a LOT of improvement in Jiricek's game, or we just gave away a lot of draft picks that could have been used for other things.

It’s Iowa. Everyone goes there and plays like shit.

 

[Czechboy]

Daemon Hunt has 6 points in 9gp for Cleveland.
Jiricek has 1 pt. in 8 gp.

This might be the lowest point for Jiricek... rock bottom. And, at rock bottom, I'm here to say I don't think Hunt is the right comparable for Jiricek. Time will tell. And that time is probably not the rest of this season. I am hoping they are working with Jiricek on whatever it is that need working on.

 

[stevo61]

This might be the lowest point for Jiricek... rock bottom. And, at rock bottom, I'm here to say I don't think Hunt is the right comparable for Jiricek. Time will tell. And that time is probably not the rest of this season. I am hoping they are working with Jiricek on whatever it is that need working on.

Between the ears seems like a good place to start. Time to grow up and hear the uncomfortable thing

 

[Bruce Granville]

This might be the lowest point for Jiricek... rock bottom. And, at rock bottom, I'm here to say I don't think Hunt is the right comparable for Jiricek. Time will tell. And that time is probably not the rest of this season. I am hoping they are working with Jiricek on whatever it is that need working on.

Is he lazy, arrogant or just stupid? If his skating is described as mediocre, we all know it is far below average. So why has he not worked on it?
Lazy - I don‘t work out in the summer.
Arrogant - I was the 6th OA pick and don‘t have any flaws.
Stupid - Aka the Czech Puljujarvi…

 

[3074326]

It’s Iowa. Everyone goes there and plays like shit.

At least their branding is awesome. I have a shirt!

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Early indication isn't good, however is this like comparing DeAngelo to Slavin, or is Jiricek not playing well defensively, either ?

 

[stevo61]

Is he lazy, arrogant or just stupid? If his skating is described as mediocre, we all know it is far below average. So why has he not worked on it?
Lazy - I don‘t work out in the summer.
Arrogant - I was the 6th OA pick and don‘t have any flaws.
Stupid - Aka the Czech Puljujarvi…

I just think he's always been propped up. He's been significantly better than his peers in a Country waiting for the next one. I think he's a good kid but has only heard the positives his young career and has a yes man agent. Maybe another team coming to the exact same conclusion provides the kick in the ass to change his offseason work which clearly is not good enough. If he wasn't going to be traded I was suggesting they should really pressure him to work out with Werenski in the offseason and find someone (Jessica Campbell?) to work on his skating with from the ground up. Can't really fix skating mid season because it's almost impossible to not fall back into old habits almost instantly

 

[SteelCityCannon]

Feels like DW was desperately trying to sell high on Jiricek and seems like he did. Time will tell, we always knew Minnesota was going to have to work with him awhile. Their fans have painted their skating coach as a miracle worker so he should have every opportunity to succeed. This is the type of trade you gotta wait a few years to judge.

 

[UED]

Early indication isn't good, however is this like comparing DeAngelo to Slavin, or is Jiricek not playing well defensively, either ?

Basically the new Rasmus Ristolainen. Not NHL level defensively and not good enough offensively to quarterback your PP. But at least hits 3 players for every goal scored against him.

 

[Dickie Dunn]

This is like a pitcher changing organizations and learning a new delivery and arm angle. If the Wild are rebuilding his game, it will take time. If it works.

 

[ploppsdman]

Saw Jiricek and was floored how far away from the NHL his game looked. He looks like poop - slow & lazy.