Confirmed Trade: [MIN/CBJ] David Jiricek, 2025 5th round pick for Daemon Hunt, 2025 1st round pick, 2027 2nd round pick, 2026 3rd and 4th round picks
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Our Lady Peace
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Jiricek hasn't proven anything in the NHL for this trade to be warranted a "complete disaster" by CBJ. He's still going clunky feet that lack quickness when moving side to side
He is now 21 years old. As a 6th overall pick he should be well on his way to correcting the skating weaknesses to be a top defender let alone a passable one in the NHL. I am rooting for the Wild to help him correct that
He is now 21 years old. As a 6th overall pick he should be well on his way to correcting the skating weaknesses to be a top defender let alone a passable one in the NHL. I am rooting for the Wild to help him correct that
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Lol. The wild aren't trading wallstedt
Chicago should see if they can get him on lease to improve Bedard's skating. He's regressed
Seems like both players involved should be soaking up AHL minutes for the new organizations, change of scenery not really changing the dynamic of where they should be.
You can laugh all you want but Bogo has been a terrific bottom six RHD for the Wild since arriving and little chance IMO that a competitive team is going to sub him out for Jiricek this season. The path for Jiricek on the future is clear with Bogo and Spurgeon both aging but this season? He’s at max 4th RHD on that depth chart, no doubt about it. He should be in Iowa unless there are injuries, otherwise he’s just bench warming like he was the bulk of the year in Columbus.
Meanwhile the Jackets have a bevy of LHD’s…Werenski, Provorov, Christianson, Harris…and Mateychuk on the farm. Even accounting from some off-hand combos, there’s little to suggest Hunt is ready to be more than the likes of those guys right now, milquetoast as some of them may seem. I think Hunt is just a depth body who can replace the Christianson/Harris role in the future.
You can laugh all you want but Bogo has been a terrific bottom six RHD for the Wild since arriving and little chance IMO that a competitive team is going to sub him out for Jiricek this season. The path for Jiricek on the future is clear with Bogo and Spurgeon both aging but this season? He’s at max 4th RHD on that depth chart, no doubt about it. He should be in Iowa unless there are injuries, otherwise he’s just bench warming like he was the bulk of the year in Columbus.
Meanwhile the Jackets have a bevy of LHD’s…Werenski, Provorov, Christianson, Harris…and Mateychuk on the farm. Even accounting from some off-hand combos, there’s little to suggest Hunt is ready to be more than the likes of those guys right now, milquetoast as some of them may seem. I think Hunt is just a depth body who can replace the Christianson/Harris role in the future.
Circulartheory
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If his skating is that poor as well, he could get some tips from Middleton and Bogosian on how to still be effective. Those guys aren't the most agile but know how to play their roles well. Jiricek just has a bit more skill.
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I agree given his age he needs to get better at skating fast. So much to process for a nhl player that they can’t be thinking about their skating technique when out on the ice. Has to be natural and second nature, thus want to get it improved asap. See how it turns out for him. Has to practice it to the point where it’s his natural skating technique.
TheNumber4
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At the draft a drop down trade of that proportion rarely if ever happens. Smaller ones have.
But this isn’t at the draft. Jiricek and his agent bitched and complained. Waddel looks to want to get rid of the headache.
frightenedinmatenum2
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You can't look at Jiricek like an 8th overall. It never works that way with these disgruntled prospects. I was arguing with a die hard last night who wouldn't accept any of the examples I brought up about this, and here we are.
It would have been the same thing if the Sens traded Pinto last year when he wouldn't sign.
They may have gotten more value dealing him at the draft when the pick that teams had was set in stone so they didn't have to worry about giving up a 1st that could have been higher than expected, or could have lead to them having to exercise protection (if it was granted) and Columbus getting an unprotected shot at McKenna in 2026.
It would have been the same thing if the Sens traded Pinto last year when he wouldn't sign.
They may have gotten more value dealing him at the draft when the pick that teams had was set in stone so they didn't have to worry about giving up a 1st that could have been higher than expected, or could have lead to them having to exercise protection (if it was granted) and Columbus getting an unprotected shot at McKenna in 2026.
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bleedgreen
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A lot of people dogging cbus for the return at least early in the thread….i think they did great. A guy they feel they have to move, who hasn’t developed much and wants out…..which everyone knows….for a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and a depth player?!? That’s a pretty huge haul! Good job Cbus.
After 2 full seasons, 6OA means nothing. It's about where he is at this point in time and what the evaluation is on his potential in the NHL. Maybe relationship did impact the desire to move him now. But, this is what he ended up netting the Jackets.
I find it extremely funny that the previous thread was all outside fans telling Columbus fans that the Jackets would be lucky to get a second for their distressed malcontent asset, and now that a trade has happened that includes a first, a second, third, a fourth, AND a 6/7 NHL-ready defenseman who's an upgrade over all three bottom-six LHD in Columbus right now and the new consensus is that Columbus got fleeced.
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The guy has produced better in the ahl than nemec and their cups of coffee in the bhl were about the same this is just dumb asset management by Columbus.
Sergei Shirokov
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Haven't watched Jiricek enough in CBJ to make a proclamation but they did get quite the package. Basically an entirely drafts worth of early picks & a Dman who was an early 3rd rounder not long ago.
Could really go either way.
Could really go either way.
SteelCityCannon
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Man you might be right. They should have made Minnesota give more. /S
Or maybe, we keep him another year and trade him next year for a 3rd rounder. That also would have been way better.
bleedgreen
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Not if he wanted out. He’s 21, he shouldn’t be dictating his path to them. Production is irrelevant if they think he can’t skate at the NHL level yet. They probably had good reason to move him based on what they knew behind the scenes. As another poster mentioned many people thought he’d be worth a second or maybe a late first….they just got a 1st-4th plus a depth guy and it’s bad asset management? I don’t see it man. They got a haul for a guy who hasn’t made it yet on a team that could really use him. I don’t really care what his production is in the AHL. The Canes have Scott Morrow in the A and he’s put up pts, but he can’t defend a brown paper bag floating in the wind so he’s staying there for awhile. Pts or not they’re both probably in the minors for a good reason.
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Fro
Cheatin on CBJ w TBL
ThatGuy22
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Minnesota isn't giving up on Hunt. They're gambling. A guy that's likely to be an NHLer but tops out at like a 4 for a guy with apparently a much higher ceiling.
Production doesn't mean shit when you give up more than you produce. He's currently a liability on an NHL blueline, not an asset.
