Confirmed Trade: [MIN/CBJ] David Jiricek, 2025 5th round pick for Daemon Hunt, 2025 1st round pick, 2027 2nd round pick, 2026 3rd and 4th round picks

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Is Jiricek a decent defender, at least? I get(and don't like), that he is a mediocre skater.

At least he has two of the best RHD to look up to in Faber and Spurgeon. Also a cautionary tale in Bogosian... a former very high draft pick who pissed away a of of his career.
Not really, no. And when you see a 6'4+ prospect you'd hope he plays physical....well he doesn't. If he's going to hit his potential he's going to have to put on some serious weight and muscle. I think that might be part of why the CBJ FO wants to move, they told guys like LDBB, Mateychuk, KJ to go put on some muscle and work on some things and come back next year and try to steal a spot. Mateychuk and LDBB have established themselves as #1s in Cleveland this year and KJ is looking like he's establishing himself as a #1 in Columbus.

Meanwhile Jiricek thinks he's NHL capable but couldn't beat out Jack Johnson, Jordan Harris or Christiansen in the NHL and was playing second pair in Cleveland.
Columbus management isn't exactly the best at judging or developing talent, so already sus lol.
You might want to do some research. Jackets are on the cusp of a playoff spot after being unanimously believed to be a lottery team, which could still happen.. But it's being led by jackets draft picks, KJ looks like a #1 play driving winger who can do it all, Werenski is literally a #1-2 D in the entire league right now. Marchenko, Chinakov and Voronkov are all playing lights out. As is Elvis.

Meanwhile Mateychuk is one of the top scorers in the entire AHL and leads all defenseman and LDBB has established himself as the #1C on one of the best teams in the AHL.

Obviously it's still early but the Jackets future looks bright, especially if the Jackets find their way into the playoffs this year. And this is all while Jenner(C) and Gudbranson(A) have been hurt the entire season
 

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How is this a brutal return. We’ve seen 1st round prospects swapped plenty in recent years. 4 picks including a 1st for one first round prospect. Key word prospect, Jiricek ain’t nothing yet.
 
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Well, Sounds like Brodin has a new babysitting job.

Those times last year when he got to play with Faber will seem like a wonderful dream...
 
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This sure reminds me a whole lot of when folks were telling us that no, really, Jordan Harris is totally a good guy to get back as part of the Laine trade and he'll totally play useful minutes.

(Hint: He's arguably the most useless blueliner on our team, and that team has Jack Johnson on it.)
Whomever told you Jordan Harris is good was trolling
 
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While true, it’s so foolish to value Jiricek as a 6th OA prospect. He’s not that anymore. If he gets drafted this year he’s maybe a mid to late first.
Oh I know, and don't value Jiricek that high. it was more a comment on the theoretical value of draft picks.
 

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Sorry that's complete BS.

No team is trading down from 8th overall to the late 1st for a 2027 2nd and a 2026 3rd.
Plus a 4th and plus a 3rd rd drafted prospect.

All 1sts are equivalent now? Cool. Hold off while we go call up the Blackhawks and offer to swap Corson Ceulemans for Connor Bedard.
Of course not. That’s what the 2nd, 3rd, 3rd (prospect), and 4th are for.

Honestly, reflecting on it, my initial impression was overpay. But I’m grading it out closer to a fair value deal. People saying CBJ got smoked in this trade are out to lunch.
 

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No way CLB fans are happy with this, right? A lot of the proposals posted here were way better than the actual return yet turned down by the CLB fans here
 

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Berni, Bean, Bjork, and Blankenburg. And arguably Boqvist also. All of whom "looked NHL ready" and even got quite a few NHL games but none of whom were retained... and, incidentally, none of whom have done much of anything since.
With the exception of Boqvist, those guys are all 25+. Hunt got games at 21, and this year at 22 the wild fan consensus or close to it is that he's NHL ready or near NHL ready. Wild seems to think so as well, he's been up and down a number of times this year, just hasn't quite got in the lineup.

I don't think that's the same situation.
 

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2026 4th is offset by the 2025 5th they gave up in the deal.

Hunt is 22 and I doubt he even has the value of a 3rd round pick at this point.
Yeh pretty much 4th only slightly better than 5th so let’s cancel it out.

So that’s still 4 picks for one.

I don’t know much about Hunt but someone must have liked him.

That said, Jiricek is a guy that still needs to develop his skating and has shown issues with AHL deployment. There’s question marks with him too.
 

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You'll have to pardon us for assuming that our GM was minimally competent.
Waddell's moves have been pretty good since coming to Columbus. He also has way more information about the player and the situation than any of us do. I get the disappointment over Jiricek not panning out with CBJ, but concluding DW is incompetent seems quite a stretch.
 
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Not really, no. And when you see a 6'4+ prospect you'd hope he plays physical....well he doesn't. If he's going to hit his potential he's going to have to put on some serious weight and muscle. I think that might be part of why the CBJ FO wants to move, they told guys like LDBB, Mateychuk, KJ to go put on some muscle and work on some things and come back next year and try to steal a spot. Mateychuk and LDBB have established themselves as #1s in Cleveland this year and KJ is looking like he's establishing himself as a #1 in Columbus.

Meanwhile Jiricek thinks he's NHL capable but couldn't beat out Jack Johnson, Jordan Harris or Christiansen in the NHL and was playing second pair in Cleveland.

You might want to do some research. Jackets are on the cusp of a playoff spot after being unanimously believed to be a lottery team, which could still happen.. But it's being led by jackets draft picks, KJ looks like a #1 play driving winger who can do it all, Werenski is literally a #1-2 D in the entire league right now. Marchenko, Chinakov and Voronkov are all playing lights out. As is Elvis.

Meanwhile Mateychuk is one of the top scorers in the entire AHL and leads all defenseman and LDBB has established himself as the #1C on one of the best teams in the AHL.

Obviously it's still early but the Jackets future looks bright, especially if the Jackets find their way into the playoffs this year. And this is all while Jenner(C) and Gudbranson(A) have been hurt the entire season
I've heard Mateychuk is looking really good, and KJ looks like a different player this year. Faster, stronger, dangerous offensively - he always had the skill. Reminds me of Mittelstadt, except that KJ might've fast tracked his development more than Mittelstadt, who took forever to finally get his man strength.

Rossi did the same for us. Hopefully Jiricek will watch, listen and imitate what the successful players like Spurgeon have done to make themselves into excellent players rather than whine to his agent about how he is getting any chances.
 

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I’m guessing this trade was made betting on Jiricek’s stock to fall. Unless he was disgruntled with the organization? Seems more like a GM making an evaluation of his prospect and deciding he isn’t going to pan out as hoped. Time will tell
 
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TheNumber4

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All of which are near-valueless and therefore not of any real meaning whatsoever in evaluating the trade.

Seriously. They're a bunch of late picks that'll be made around the same time Werenski turns 30. They get us f***-all.
What do you mean “value-less”. They get traded for value every TDL. Picks obviously have value, they are currency in the NHL as good as cash in the real world.

In aggregate you add the values of the picks and you got yourself a near equivalent value to a high end prospect who himself was a Pick too before he became the prospect.
 

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as far as i'm aware, jiricek's potential is ristolainen. and i wouldnt claim ristolainen off waivers, and I would judge anyone who would! great job by columbus weaponizing draft position, which of course is more important than the player himself !
 
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