Confirmed Trade: [MIN/CBJ] David Jiricek, 2025 5th round pick for Daemon Hunt, 2025 1st round pick, 2027 2nd round pick, 2026 3rd and 4th round picks

[bleachdrinker]

6th overall in a weak draft. 9th overall in the same draft (savoie) was recently traded too for modest return.

Even Gauthier, who was one pick ahead of Jiricek, didn’t get a massive return (Drysdale and a 2nd).

 

[bandwagonesque]

My bigger question is where Jiricek belongs with the Wild? All their RHD are occupied. I mean unless you trade away Bogosian he's on the 3rd pairing. But he is better than Jon Merrill.

Bogosian is 34 and hasn't played a full season in nearly 15 years.

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

Interesting that someone offered two top 10 1sts (sources said any 1sts included had to be top 10)

Crazy

 

[Peter Griffin]

Don Waddell is terrible, always has been. Definitely wasn’t the brains of the Carolina operation.

 

[ThatGuy22]

Waddell's opening moves as the Jackets GM were to literally dispose of, for free, four equivalent defensemen all still in their early 20s that we'd had in the system and similarly "totally NHL ready we swear" (to the point of actually playing games) for the last year.

Who if you don't mind me asking

 

[TheNumber4]

As if Serravelli was just going to pull something out of his ass. He knew something was going on. He’s not going to risk his reputation making shit up. Jiricek was always going to be traded.

Considering the ridiculous return, it makes sense that it took a couple more days to hash out.

 

[SteelCityCannon]

Don Waddell is terrible, always has been. Definitely wasn’t the brains of the Carolina operation.

It is well known that the GM doesn't have much input in building NHL teams.

I bet you also would crap on him for Atlanta though.

 

[CBJx614]

Is Jiricek a decent defender, at least? I get(and don't like), that he is a mediocre skater.

At least he has two of the best RHD to look up to in Faber and Spurgeon. Also a cautionary tale in Bogosian... a former very high draft pick who pissed away a of of his career.

Not really, no. And when you see a 6'4+ prospect you'd hope he plays physical....well he doesn't. If he's going to hit his potential he's going to have to put on some serious weight and muscle. I think that might be part of why the CBJ FO wants to move, they told guys like LDBB, Mateychuk, KJ to go put on some muscle and work on some things and come back next year and try to steal a spot. Mateychuk and LDBB have established themselves as #1s in Cleveland this year and KJ is looking like he's establishing himself as a #1 in Columbus.

Meanwhile Jiricek thinks he's NHL capable but couldn't beat out Jack Johnson, Jordan Harris or Christiansen in the NHL and was playing second pair in Cleveland.

Columbus management isn't exactly the best at judging or developing talent, so already sus lol.

You might want to do some research. Jackets are on the cusp of a playoff spot after being unanimously believed to be a lottery team, which could still happen.. But it's being led by jackets draft picks, KJ looks like a #1 play driving winger who can do it all, Werenski is literally a #1-2 D in the entire league right now. Marchenko, Chinakov and Voronkov are all playing lights out. As is Elvis.

Meanwhile Mateychuk is one of the top scorers in the entire AHL and leads all defenseman and LDBB has established himself as the #1C on one of the best teams in the AHL.

Obviously it's still early but the Jackets future looks bright, especially if the Jackets find their way into the playoffs this year. And this is all while Jenner(C) and Gudbranson(A) have been hurt the entire season

 

[Viqsi]

Who if you don't mind me asking

Berni, Bean, Bjork, and Blankenburg. And arguably Boqvist also. All of whom "looked NHL ready" and even got quite a few NHL games but none of whom were retained... and, incidentally, none of whom have done much of anything since.

 

[TheNumber4]

How is this a brutal return. We’ve seen 1st round prospects swapped plenty in recent years. 4 picks including a 1st for one first round prospect. Key word prospect, Jiricek ain’t nothing yet.

 

[57special]

Well, Sounds like Brodin has a new babysitting job.

Those times last year when he got to play with Faber will seem like a wonderful dream...

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

This sure reminds me a whole lot of when folks were telling us that no, really, Jordan Harris is totally a good guy to get back as part of the Laine trade and he'll totally play useful minutes.

(Hint: He's arguably the most useless blueliner on our team, and that team has Jack Johnson on it.)

Whomever told you Jordan Harris is good was trolling

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Colombus posters swore they weren't gonna get fleeced this time... ,I personally am not high on Jiri I think it's a decent return but some people valued him way more than this

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Don Waddell is terrible, always has been. Definitely wasn’t the brains of the Carolina operation.

Why? He robbed Minnesota blind

 

[Viqsi]

How is this a brutal return. We’ve seen 1st round prospects swapped plenty in recent years. 4 picks including a 1st for one first round prospect. Key word prospect, Jiricek ain’t nothing yet.

All 1sts are equivalent now? Cool. Hold off while we go call up the Blackhawks and offer to swap Corson Ceulemans for Connor Bedard.

 

[Jerry the great]

While true, it’s so foolish to value Jiricek as a 6th OA prospect. He’s not that anymore. If he gets drafted this year he’s maybe a mid to late first.

Oh I know, and don't value Jiricek that high. it was more a comment on the theoretical value of draft picks.

 

[Peter Griffin]

It is well known that the GM doesn't have much input in building NHL teams.

I bet you also would crap on him for Atlanta though.

General managers are responsible for building a strong team around them. Should Waddell be celebrated for his time in Atlanta?

 

[Viqsi]

Colombus posters swore they weren't gonna get fleeced this time... ,I personally am not high on Jiri I think it's a decent return but some people valued him way more than thsi

Again, normally one can safely assume that one's brand-new GM is at least minimally competent.

 

[TheNumber4]

Sorry that's complete BS.

No team is trading down from 8th overall to the late 1st for a 2027 2nd and a 2026 3rd.

Plus a 4th and plus a 3rd rd drafted prospect.

All 1sts are equivalent now? Cool. Hold off while we go call up the Blackhawks and offer to swap Corson Ceulemans for Connor Bedard.

Of course not. That’s what the 2nd, 3rd, 3rd (prospect), and 4th are for.

Honestly, reflecting on it, my initial impression was overpay. But I’m grading it out closer to a fair value deal. People saying CBJ got smoked in this trade are out to lunch.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

No way CLB fans are happy with this, right? A lot of the proposals posted here were way better than the actual return yet turned down by the CLB fans here

 

[ThatGuy22]

Berni, Bean, Bjork, and Blankenburg. And arguably Boqvist also. All of whom "looked NHL ready" and even got quite a few NHL games but none of whom were retained... and, incidentally, none of whom have done much of anything since.

With the exception of Boqvist, those guys are all 25+. Hunt got games at 21, and this year at 22 the wild fan consensus or close to it is that he's NHL ready or near NHL ready. Wild seems to think so as well, he's been up and down a number of times this year, just hasn't quite got in the lineup.

I don't think that's the same situation.

 

[Viqsi]

Of course not. That’s what the 2nd, 3rd, 3rd (prospect), and 4th are for.

All of which are near-valueless and therefore not of any real meaning whatsoever in evaluating the trade.

Seriously. They're a bunch of late picks that'll be made around the same time Werenski turns 30. They get us f***-all.

 

[Viqsi]

With the exception of Boqvist, those guys are all 25+.

They started their careers at ages 21-23. They were given away two or three years later. I have yet to see anything whatsoever that indicates anything different should be expected or even probable for Hunt.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Plus a 4th and plus a 3rd rd drafted prospect.

2026 4th is offset by the 2025 5th they gave up in the deal.

Hunt is 22 and I doubt he even has the value of a 3rd round pick at this point.

 

[Baksfamous112]

@Viqsi how are we holding up?