Value of: Milan Michalek at 2M

[Dertell]

done. Sieloff probably takes Hunwicks spot on the Leafs and we waive Matty boy.

Any plan with Sieloff in the nhl lineup is not a good plan.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Michalek's cap hit is what scares most teams away,even if its only a 1 year deal.

 

[Finnish your Czech]

I'd move him for free if we retained 50% but I wouldn't want another contract with cap back because that defeats the purpose.

 

[Mad Brills*]

I wouldn't be against taking an expiring deal back as long as it comes with a pick/prospect coming back and the contract isn't higher than michalek's original cap hit.

 

[Ricky Bobby]

Yeah Ducks did scout Leafs and Michalek was playing.

If not Fowler for Michalek at 2M maybe Stoner+ for MM@2M?

Michalek works only if we send a cap dump in return. Does it work for Toronto?

Stoner is good for 2 things: 1) being a servicable and tough 3d pair defenseman and 2) being overpaid, unfortunately.
But he has 2 points in the season already

And I noticed last game vs Bolts Andersen was screened and let in a goal a bit too many times. Clayton can surely help take care of that.

I`ll accept also Matthews for Stoner straight up

So... is there anything to be done around Stoner and MM?
It wouldn`t include one of our BEST prospects, that only works if we`d get ALL of Stoners contract off the books and even then probably not.

Yay or nay?

The whole point of the Ducks trying to unload Stoner is to free up space to sign Lindholm.

The Ducks taking on Michalek doesn't make sense.

 

[inthe6ix]

He did well with the Sharks back in the day

Maybe they'll want him back for a late pick or bag of pucks?

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

He did well with the Sharks back in the day

Maybe they'll want him back for a late pick or bag of pucks?

Yeah 8 years ago, maybe they can get Setoguchi as well.

 

[Finnish your Czech]

The whole point of the Ducks trying to unload Stoner is to free up space to sign Lindholm.

The Ducks taking on Michalek doesn't make sense.

You're saving 1.25 million if you trade stoner for michalek @50%

 

[Man Bear Pig]

I see this a lot. People referring to "the youngesters are gonna need to get paid" that's 3 years away and have no leverage. Except maybe Matthews. But it's still 3 years away. And it's quite a good problem to have.

Even if you don't believe me, you still have to believe that they want as little dead weight around as possible. And right now, there's plenty of it. This team needs to add a free agent or two in the near future.

 

[THall4]

What if we added a mid round pick?

Oilers have no use for Milan Michalek.

Hes not going to play ahead of Lucic, Maroon or Pouliot ...

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

I think Michalek is a guy who would be a decent addition at the deadline to a team either wanting to make a push for the playoffs or in the playoffs. He's a pretty good bottom 6 player who can slot up into the 2nd line if there's an injury and not look out of place. The issue is that with a guy like Michalek, who is excellent at replacing someone when they're injured, is that he's very injury prone himself. I think teams would take him for a 4th or a 5th, but he could end up being very useful depth for a team looking to make an impact.

 

[Ricky Bobby]

You're saving 1.25 million if you trade stoner for michalek @50%

Which is 1.25 that would take away from Lindholm.

1.25 might not sound like much but it's a big deal in the Anaheim Lindholm situation.

Michalek to Ottawa or Florida makes the most sense. Both teams have the cap room and had key injuries to a winger (CMac and Huberdeau) so they could use the depth Michalek would offer.

 

[gabeliscious]

Stoner + a 3rd for Michalek at 2M

The Ducks did scout the Leafs in the past week too.

this doesnt do much for the leafs.

Michalek at $2 million could probably get future considerations/7th rounder without taking on a bad contract for this year and next. a 3rd is terrible consideration for that. i think leafs would retain $2 million if they could dump him. bringing back other garbage is just shuffling deck chairs and offers no value or purpose.

 

[Finnish your Czech]

Which is 1.25 that would take away from Lindholm.

1.25 might not sound like much but it's a big deal in the Anaheim Lindholm situation.

Michalek to Ottawa or Florida makes the most sense. Both teams have the cap room and had key injuries to a winger (CMac and Huberdeau) so they could use the depth Michalek would offer.

How does Anaheim saving 1.25mil take away from lindholm? Michalek @50% is cheaper than stoner.

 

[TOGuy14]

Yeah 8 years ago, maybe they can get Setoguchi as well.

Heard that Cheechoo guy can really light the lamp, you should look into it.

 

[Duck Off]

Stoner + a 3rd for Michalek at 2M

The Ducks did scout the Leafs in the past week too.

a third isn't enough, but the Stoner + Theodore talk is a joke.


Stoner + 2nd that TO gave us in the Andersen deal for Michalek at 2 million and a 6th.

 

[Magic Man]

a third isn't enough, but the Stoner + Theodore talk is a joke.


Stoner + 2nd that TO gave us in the Andersen deal for Michalek at 2 million and a 6th.

Leafs could sell Michalek at 2M for positive value in the range of a 4th or 5th rd. pick.

Stoner is going to need at the absolute least a 2nd + another asset to remove him. Savard's 1 year insured LTIR contract cost a 2nd to move and they weren't in the middle of the season, pushed against a deadline to fit in Lindholm.

The Leafs aren't making the deal to upgrade a 6th to a 2nd. No favours are being done here.

 

[Canada4Gold]

Would love him back in a sens uniform.
Would offer a 4th+Sieloff for him at 2Mil

Leaf cannot trade Michalek back to Ottawa with retention until a year has passed from the initial trade per the CBA, pages 272- 273

http://www.nhl.com/nhl/en/v3/ext/CBA2012/NHL_NHLPA_2013_CBA.pdf

(C) Under no circumstances may a Club:

...

(4) Reacquire as part of a Retained Salary Transaction the SPC
of a Player who was on that Club's Reserve List within the
past calendar year;

Illustration: If Club A Trades the SPC of a Player to Club
B (the "Initial Trade"), Club B cannot subsequently Trade
an SPC of such Player back to Club A within one (1)
calendar year from the date of the Initial Trade and retain a
portion of the Averaged Amount of that SPC pursuant to a
Retained Salary Transaction. However, Club B may Trade
an SPC of the Player back to Club A within one (1)
calendar year from the date of the Initial Trade if Club B
does not retain any portion of such Player's SPC.

 

[Kalv]

The whole point of the Ducks trying to unload Stoner is to free up space to sign Lindholm.

The Ducks taking on Michalek doesn't make sense.

3.25M - 2M = 1.25M that`s some nice cap space

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Would love him back in a sens uniform.
Would offer a 4th+Sieloff for him at 2Mil

I'm game forget the 4th. Sieloff is a decent prospect ... more than enough imo

 

[PoutineSp00nZ]

This move could make a lot of sense for Ottawa. Michalek at 2. whatever is a solid option in the middle six. Can sub up and down while needed. Even in Macarthur comes back.

I'd love to see Ottawa get him back. Guy is a solid soldier, even waived his no trade to help the team out.

 

[Duck Off]

Leafs could sell Michalek at 2M for positive value in the range of a 4th or 5th rd. pick.

Stoner is going to need at the absolute least a 2nd + another asset to remove him. Savard's 1 year insured LTIR contract cost a 2nd to move and they weren't in the middle of the season, pushed against a deadline to fit in Lindholm.

The Leafs aren't making the deal to upgrade a 6th to a 2nd. No favours are being done here.

Fair enough, but I guarantee Stoner + 2nd is much closer than the Stoner + Theodore talk.

The Ducks aren't going to add one of their young D to Stoner unless a very valuable asset is coming back. They'll trade Bernier to one of these goalie needing teams before doing something that stupid.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Leaf cannot trade Michalek back to Ottawa with retention until a year has passed from the initial trade per the CBA, pages 272- 273

http://www.nhl.com/nhl/en/v3/ext/CBA2012/NHL_NHLPA_2013_CBA.pdf

Ok we are out then

 

[Canada4Gold]

This move could make a lot of sense for Ottawa. Michalek at 2. whatever is a solid option in the middle six. Can sub up and down while needed. Even in Macarthur comes back.

I'd love to see Ottawa get him back. Guy is a solid soldier, even waived his no trade to help the team out.

Could only happen after February 9th, 2017, see 3 posts above yours

 

[Crosbysux]

3.25M - 2M = 1.25M that`s some nice cap space

Would give us the room needed when Thompson comes back too.