Player Discussion Milan Lucic (arrested Nov 18)

[Gee Wally]

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Three strikes and *you* are out!

 

[Bradely]

I won't comment on this story but only say this is sad, a very very sad story. Hope god will blessed everyone hurt by this story and a happy outcome seen thru the future.

 

[James Walker]

All the people I've known who drank every day are dead.

Seriously.

I am an alcoholic, I learned to be one from my father. I swore I would never drink.
This may be extreme, but I don't think a father should ever drink alcohol in front of his children.

Alcohol can cause. depression

The Bruins are getting ready for the Dads road trip.
Lucic's father died young a few years ago.

Not saying there is a correlation, but...

 

[Bradely]

I am an alcoholic, I learned to be one from my father. I swore I would never drink.
This may be extreme, but I don't think a father should ever drink alcohol in front of his children.


The Bruins are getting ready for the Dads road trip.
Lucic's father died young a few years ago.

Not saying there is a correlation, but...

I am sorry.Really hope you are doing well.

But IMO, a parent should learn to his kid how to dirnk, how to behave among alcohol and social event and social pressure, how to identify in front of alcohol or social event. One thing I've learn from life, is hiding or lying ain't a good way of living. Take care. God bless you.

 

[easton117]

Hope they’re all ok, Milan and the family.

Also hope Boston and the league can help the guy if he needs it.

For anyone calling for his termination on the main board, I don’t know. Seems to me having the sort of support structure a multi million dollar league could offer someone and their family would be exactly what they need to get through something like this.

I could be wrong though.

 

[Gee Wally]

Milan Lucic to appear in Boston courtroom on Monday

UPDATE (Tuesday, Nov. 21, 2023): Milan Lucic appeared in court on Tuesday. Click here for details. Boston Bruins forward Milan Lucic is taking an indefinite leave of absence from the team after he was involved in an undisclosed incident Friday night, the organization announced Saturday. The...

www.necn.com

According to a police report provided to NBC10 Boston by sources, officers were called to Lucic's Boston apartment early Saturday morning when a woman called 911 saying her husband attempted to choke her. Police say she later identified her husband as Lucic.

They say she told officers that Lucic couldn't find his cell phone after returning from a night out, and that he started yelling at her, demanding his phone back. The report goes on to say that when the victim tried to walk away from their argument, her husband grabbed her by her hair and pulled her backwards.

Police say when an officer asked the victim if Lucic attempted to strangle her during the incident, she said he did not.

According to the police report, when an officer made contact with Lucic, he appeared intoxicated when he answered the door, telling officers that "nothing had happened" and he did not attempt to provide any explanation. Lucic was later arrested and charged with assault and battery on an intimate partner.

Lucic is expected to be arraigned on Monday in Boston Municipal Court. Attorney information wasn't immediately available.

 

[Gonzothe7thDman]

The more details that come out the worse it looks.

3 times making the news for being overly aggressive/physical (twice with his gf/wife) while intoxicated tells me all I need to know.

Hopefully his wife and kids are doing well. And then obviously you hope Milan figures his shit out but 3rd strike and you're out with me buddy. You have the financial means to address an issue that has surfaced to the public eye multiple times. Who knows what kind of stuff that has gone on behind closed doors. Should have been a wake up call the first time this happened.

Sympathy from me is gone at this point.

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

The more details that come out the worse it looks.

3 times making the news for being overly aggressive/physical (twice with his gf/wife) while intoxicated tells me all I need to know.

Hopefully his wife and kids are doing well. And then obviously you hope Milan figures his shit out but 3rd strike and you're out with me buddy. You have the financial means to address an issue that has surfaced to the public eye multiple times. Who knows what kind of stuff that has gone on behind closed doors. Should have been a wake up call the first time this happened.

Sympathy from me is gone at this point.

You and I don’t know shit about this.

Which is why I chose not to make baseless opinions about it.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

Milan Lucic to appear in Boston courtroom on Monday

UPDATE (Tuesday, Nov. 21, 2023): Milan Lucic appeared in court on Tuesday. Click here for details. Boston Bruins forward Milan Lucic is taking an indefinite leave of absence from the team after he was involved in an undisclosed incident Friday night, the organization announced Saturday. The...

www.necn.com

According to a police report provided to NBC10 Boston by sources, officers were called to Lucic's Boston apartment early Saturday morning when a woman called 911 saying her husband attempted to choke her. Police say she later identified her husband as Lucic.

They say she told officers that Lucic couldn't find his cell phone after returning from a night out, and that he started yelling at her, demanding his phone back. The report goes on to say that when the victim tried to walk away from their argument, her husband grabbed her by her hair and pulled her backwards.

Police say when an officer asked the victim if Lucic attempted to strangle her during the incident, she said he did not.

According to the police report, when an officer made contact with Lucic, he appeared intoxicated when he answered the door, telling officers that "nothing had happened" and he did not attempt to provide any explanation. Lucic was later arrested and charged with assault and battery on an intimate partner.

Lucic is expected to be arraigned on Monday in Boston Municipal Court. Attorney information wasn't immediately available.

yeah, this is unacceptable. he's done. hopefully he gets help.

 

[Gonzothe7thDman]

You and I don’t know shit about this.

Which is why I chose not to make baseless opinions about it.

The things we do know is enough for me to form an opinion. If its not enough for you that's your business.

 

[Mione134]

Milan Lucic to appear in Boston courtroom on Monday

UPDATE (Tuesday, Nov. 21, 2023): Milan Lucic appeared in court on Tuesday. Click here for details. Boston Bruins forward Milan Lucic is taking an indefinite leave of absence from the team after he was involved in an undisclosed incident Friday night, the organization announced Saturday. The...

www.necn.com

According to a police report provided to NBC10 Boston by sources, officers were called to Lucic's Boston apartment early Saturday morning when a woman called 911 saying her husband attempted to choke her. Police say she later identified her husband as Lucic.

They say she told officers that Lucic couldn't find his cell phone after returning from a night out, and that he started yelling at her, demanding his phone back. The report goes on to say that when the victim tried to walk away from their argument, her husband grabbed her by her hair and pulled her backwards.

Police say when an officer asked the victim if Lucic attempted to strangle her during the incident, she said he did not.

According to the police report, when an officer made contact with Lucic, he appeared intoxicated when he answered the door, telling officers that "nothing had happened" and he did not attempt to provide any explanation. Lucic was later arrested and charged with assault and battery on an intimate partner.

Lucic is expected to be arraigned on Monday in Boston Municipal Court. Attorney information wasn't immediately available.

These two things are extremely important to how the case will go. I'm not excusing his actions. Alcohol creates problems. I hope he gets the help he needs. I'm not giving up on him. Being around this organization, and Monty, can definitely help Milan if he needs it.

Sad situation. But I believe anyone can get help if they need it

 

[Gee Wally]

 

[hrdpuk]

I am an alcoholic, I learned to be one from my father. I swore I would never drink.
This may be extreme, but I don't think a father should ever drink alcohol in front of his children.


The Bruins are getting ready for the Dads road trip.
Lucic's father died young a few years ago.

Not saying there is a correlation,

Trying to fit everyone in the same box is counter productive and can assume wrongdoing where none is present.

 

[Dr Quincy]

These two things are extremely important to how the case will go. I'm not excusing his actions. Alcohol creates problems. I hope he gets the help he needs. I'm not giving up on him. Being around this organization, and Monty, can definitely help Milan if he needs it.

Sad situation. But I believe anyone can get help if they need it

Alcohol doesn't create rage or violence or disrespect to loved ones. It impairs one's decision making ability, but you already have to have the inclination to get physical first.

 

[Mione134]

Alcohol doesn't create rage or violence or disrespect to loved ones. It impairs one's decision making ability, but you already have to have the inclination to get physical first.

I disagree. I've seen alcohol bring many a person into a rage where I've never seen that person ever be like that. And after, not knowing what they did. It's different for everyone...the reactions to alcohol.

It's everything combined. It's sad. Just sad.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

Alcohol doesn't create rage or violence or disrespect to loved ones. It impairs one's decision making ability, but you already have to have the inclination to get physical first.

I’ve always wondered about this (and still do, as I don’t have answers from any sort of gathered scientific knowldge).

I’ve been drunk many times in my life (mostly in my college years) and never once did it give me any sort of urge to get violent. I said a lot of dumb shit without a doubt. But get violent? It’s weird for me to even try to associate getting violent with how I feel while drunk. I have to think it’s bringing things to the surface and that alcohol itself doesn’t “make violence”.

Then again, I also don’t really horny while drunk either unlike some where that is prime time for getting in the sack. Guess I’m just weird.

…I know you’re all glad you read this post.

 

[Johnnyduke]

I would think if someone was innocent of an accusation you'd immediately get a statement out there. The longer you don't personally say anything the worse it looks to me. Yes that is an opinion.

 

[Gonzothe7thDman]

I would think if someone was innocent of an accusation you'd immediately get a statement out there. The longer you don't personally say anything the worse it looks to me. Yes that is an opinion.

There’s a bunch of reasons I can think of as to why no official statement has been made by his side. Lawyer could have recommended he keep his mouth shut while they try to work with the wife to see how she wants to handle this.

But I don’t want to get too deep into the speculation part. Im sure there’s just as many innocent reasons why they haven’t made a statement. I wouldn’t read into a lack of a statement too much at this point in time.

Just knowing that he’s had law enforcement involved again because of his interactions with his wife is bad enough. He’s gotta be the unluckiest person in the world to have this type of situation happen twice but he ends up being “innocent” both times.

At this point if I’m the bruins I’m done with him representing the team on ice but I’d support him in getting the help he needs off it.

 

[bobbyorr04]

Whatever happened I wish all the best for Looch and his family

I'm all for giving a person another chance in life to right their wrongs if they are sincere about making amends and accepting help

My Father was an alcoholic who was the nicest person when sober, but would get violent when he went on a bender. Without our help he would've been lost, but we got him into detox more than a few times over the years, and when he got clean and sober he was a normal functioning member of society again...and thankfully his employer was open-minded and understood that alcoholism is a disease, so they were very patient with him.

I hope the Bruins will afford Looch the same courtesy as my Father's employer did

l think everyone deserves a second chance

 

[Aussie Bruin]

There’s a bunch of reasons I can think of as to why no official statement has been made by his side. Lawyer could have recommended he keep his mouth shut while they try to work with the wife to see how she wants to handle this.

But I don’t want to get too deep into the speculation part. Im sure there’s just as many innocent reasons why they haven’t made a statement. I wouldn’t read into a lack of a statement too much at this point in time.

Just knowing that he’s had law enforcement involved again because of his interactions with his wife is bad enough. He’s gotta be the unluckiest person in the world to have this type of situation happen twice but he ends up being “innocent” both times.

At this point if I’m the bruins I’m done with him representing the team on ice but I’d support him in getting the help he needs off it.

I think now that the nature of the charges are known, it has to be said that it's most likely that this is hockey career over for Looch. If he was younger there might be time for a way back, but in his current circumstances it feels very unlikely. Sad way to end if so.

But of course that's secondary at the moment and will be dealt with in time. Most important thing right now is having the right support in place for the Lucic family and Milan himself, and letting the legal process unfold. The 'work' side can be put on the backburner.

 

[DKH]

Alcohol doesn't create rage or violence or disrespect to loved ones. It impairs one's decision making ability, but you already have to have the inclination to get physical first.

Exactly

 

[Alicat]

My thoughts are with Brit and kids. I hope they are safe and getting the help they need.

Whatever happens today I hope Looch gets the help he needs.

 

[Blowfish]

I’ve always wondered about this (and still do, as I don’t have answers from any sort of gathered scientific knowldge).

Hopefully this helps...I bolded the part that always made sense to me.

Alcohol and Rage: What You Need to Know | Oar Health

Alcohol has a closer association with aggressive behavior than any other mind-altering substance, according to the World Health Organization (WHO). It plays a role in half of violent crimes globally.

www.oarhealth.com

“One of the acute effects alcohol can have on the brain is causing rage, anger, and aggression,” says Brent Metcalf, LCSW, a specialist in trauma treatment and clinical alcohol and drug counseling at Tri-Star Counseling.

Alcohol has a closer association with aggressive behavior than any other mind-altering substance, according to the World Health Organization (WHO). It plays a role in half of violent crimes globally. Violent behavior may occur in as much as 50% of people with alcohol use disorder (AUD).

So, what influences a tendency toward rage or aggression while under the influence?

Research suggests several factors may be involved, including personality, genetics, social considerations, brain chemistry, and brain changes. And the reasons may be different from one person to the next.

1. Dopamine increases, causing euphoria

Drinking, or even the anticipation of consuming alcohol, causes the production of dopamine. At first, drinking can often make someone feel giddy or euphoric. But that can quickly change (3).

2. Serotonin decreases, reducing the ability to regulate emotion

“Later on in the night, you may find someone crying or becoming overly emotional, and this is because, as the alcohol wears off, there is a big drop in serotonin below baseline,” Tietz explains.

Studies have shown that serotonin levels may begin decreasing within 30 minutes of that first drink (4). Plummeting serotonin levels hinder the brain’s ability to regulate anger and are linked to impulsive aggression (5).

 

[Number8]

Another sober B’s fan. 33 years and counting.

In my experience, going one day at a time not drinking is absolutely the first and only
step. And a long one at that. Trying to make amends for the wreckage of the past comes way down the road. There’s a very good reason that is step 9 of 12.

If alcohol is a problem, stopping is number one singular priority before family, friends, job, hobbies, whatever…. For most it’s a long process and those who try to rush through it usually fail.

Hope family is safe and getting help. Meanwhile Looch may or may not need help with regards to alcohol . If he does, onus will be on him to take that first step. No one can do it for him.

Earning back trust and the faith of your loved ones takes focus, dedication, consistency and, above all else, time.

I love Looch as a player. Don’t know him personally at all. That said if reports are accurate it’s time to step up for one of hardest challenges most will ever face.

 

[mjhfb]

Whatever happened I wish all the best for Looch and his family

I'm all for giving a person another chance in life to right their wrongs if they are sincere about making amends and accepting help

My Father was an alcoholic who was the nicest person when sober, but would get violent when he went on a bender. Without our help he would've been lost, but we got him into detox more than a few times over the years, and when he got clean and sober he was a normal functioning member of society again...and thankfully his employer was open-minded and understood that alcoholism is a disease, so they were very patient with him.

I hope the Bruins will afford Looch the same courtesy as my Father's employer did

l think everyone deserves a second chance

Monty got one.