Stephen
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It's so tough to see a young fan favorite like this go down in such a nothing play in such a nothing game.
I obviously have no idea about the extent of his injury, although the immediate surgery suggests there was a lack of adequate blood flow to his finger(s) and/or thumb. Whether it was just 1 or 2 arteries cut is also not known. There's no certainty when it comes to repairing severed arteries. While usually successful, being unable to restore proper blood flow is always a fairly realistic possibility.
His hockey career could be in jeopardy right now. Of course that's speculation because little is known about the damage, but there is reason to believe the surgery was an emergency one, which suggests severe damage.
I just hope he doesn't lose full use of any fingers/thumb and can play hockey again at a normal level. I would be shocked if it's this year though
What if he can't shoot properly now...
Damn you sure know your way around the human wrist. Are you in the medical field? Do you think there is any chance mik could have a "super man" type recovery and make the expected 90 day recovery time be 50-60 days? Or is thos injury something serious and one that should be treated delicately with the player being not pushed to overwork themselves during the rehab process.Johnston reported one artery was damaged, which isn't a huge deal because you can achieve hemostasis pretty quickly with pressure, and your hand only needs one intact artery to maintain adequate perfusion. A single lacerated artery, especially from such a sharp and clean insult as a blade, is a pretty simple fix with a sunny prognosis. The major complication is the tendon involvement. Tendons don't regenerate or heal on their own.
You're not going to get that hereWho here is an actual surgeon (or a resident)?? Please provide the board with some legitimate insight into Soup's injury and future outlook, even if it's preliminary and still an educated guess.
To anyone trying to provide their opinion who isn't a surgeon or resident: don't pretend to know what you're talking about.
You're not going to get that here
I understand that surgeon's make up an incredibly small percent of the population. I don't expect a surgeon to be on this message board.You're not going to get that here
You're not going to get that here
Boredom?I understand that surgeon's make up an incredibly small percent of the population. I don't expect a surgeon to be on this message board.
My overall point was that I don't understand why anyone would pretend to know what they're talking when discussing this complicated injury and future outlook. Why the heck would someone without advanced medical training offer up on opinion.
Ya I read some of the replies in this thread thinking wow there must have been a pretty detailed report about the injury for some of these e-doctor posts - but nope lolEspecially because hand surgeries on professional athletes are 100% of the time passed on to sub-specialists and not something a general surgeon, much less a resident, would be responsible for lol.
Besides, we don't know anything about the exact injury, so there's nothing to analyze. Other than that it looks like some flexor tendon injury and it was likely a clean cut. The amount of tendon involved is crucial to prognosing and we can't even guess at that. Clean cuts have better outcomes than ruptures, that's about it.
Damn you sure know your way around the human wrist. Are you in the medical field? Do you think there is any chance mik could have a "super man" type recovery and make the expected 90 day recovery time be 50-60 days? Or is thos injury something serious and one that should be treated delicately with the player being not pushed to overwork themselves during the rehab process.
A lot of people are speculating different stuff. Some people saying he might never regain full function of his wrists which is crazy sad and scary to think about. Hoping we as a fanbase are just being overly pessimistic on this and he can come back fully healthy and functional when available. The guy has been a great player and seems like a genuinely good dude with very little ego(did not care or cry about which line he was on and played his role when asked).
I'm no doctor obviously but injured a tendon in my elbow/hand a long time ago, rushed the healing process, and years later still have a horrible range of motion in my hand. I cant even put up "3" with my hand. The ring finger just stays down with the pinky. Again, not gonna play doctor here but let's hope he has a full recovery and maybe he'll be ready come playoff time.I'm just a student with a very superficial understanding of orthopedics. It's impossible to say knowing only what we know. Very generally, tendon repair needs to be managed closely and delicately. The flexor tendons are the tendons that allow you to ball your fingers into a fist, and it looks like that's what he damaged. These tendons are responsible for bearing the most amount of force of the tendons, so a rushed recovery is just liable to reinjure them. Tendons move inside of a sheath. The recovery needs to be managed closely to ensure adhesions don't develop, which can restrict range of motion. Most people have great outcomes but it's not uncommon to lose some degree of range of motion. Sometimes that returns over time, sometimes it doesn't. We don't know where or what was cut. That's my rudimentary 2¢.
Nice of Kyle to stay back with Mikheyev. Wonder if he's there giving him assurance that this injury and the time he'll miss won't hamper a possible contract extension.
Nice of Kyle to stay back with Mikheyev. Wonder if he's there giving him assurance that this injury and the time he'll miss won't hamper a possible contract extension.
I think all GMs would have done the same.Kyle's "on camera" 24/7, this is an ad for any future FAs coming over that you will be taken of in Toronto.
He has already surpassed all 3 IMO. The first 2 look like fish out of water in the top-6.Don't get me wrong I love the guy, but these are the types of guys we have to replace when they get too expensive if we want to be able to afford a defense /goaltender moving forward.
Kappy, Johnsson, Kerfoot too. The next 2 years we can pay these guys but then we'll need some money for Rielly, hopefully Sandin and Liljegren extensions, as well as a new goaltender depending on Freddie's asking price.