Rumor: Mikheyev agent given permission to seek trade

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I think he will end up with Calgary:
  1. Russian factor (5x)
  2. Milstein factor (7x)
  3. Aiming for a retool versus rebuild
  4. A lot of cap space
  5. Established trade history between Conroy/Rutherford
 
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Might be an opportunity for a team to buy a draft pick from the Canucks to retain some salary in a 3-way deal.
 

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Canucks have 19ish mil in cap space. They arent desperate to move him, sure it would help with depth signing, but this isnt a do or die trade that will effect their ability to offer Guentzel and other top priorities a massive contract.

Moving or not moving Mikhayev is probably for the difference between Signing Zadorov or someone like Dillon instead.

If he stays, i think he has a bounce back year and will pot around 15-20 goals. That injury usually takes about 9-12 months until fully recovered and back to speed.

Mikh had 11 goals last year playing on 1 leg. hes consistently put up double digit goal totals int he 2 seasons with the Canucks.

If bought out, he would be a very good add to a playoff team while being on a new bargain contract.

Mikheyev @ 30% retained for Cody Ceci

Would rather just buy out Mikh or keep Mikh. Both options would be better than Ceci in a Canuck uniform.
 

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I mean, it's easy to say that now before anything happens.

I just think people are ignoring that the significant rise in cap may have an impact on these negative value players, and would take the "negative value" more towards pre-COVID levels than flat cap COVID levels.
I think the flat cap brought about a shift where every player that wasn't above average became a hard contract to move.
Before it was truly washed up players required a sweetener a guy like Garland who gets 60+ points in a top six pp1 role needing one, not anymore.
When it comes to Mikheyev the optics on him here are not going to be the same as in actual guys making decisions.
For all the talk that he's terrible, he has one less point than Joshua in what was his worst season that likely was due in large part to his ACL injury.
There is very likely GM's who will see value in everything else he still brought and thinks he's likely to bounce back and will take a shot at getting him for next to nothing.

He was worth his contract based on before he was injured and GM's love defensively responsible wingers and the fact that he's proven he can get 20+ goals I think a team will trade for him and maybe a million gets retained.
 
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Could see a bottom-ish team going for it, given some incentives.

Or, a contract swap for possible more 'useful' assets, like the Habs did with the Nucks with Pearson/DeSmith last year.
 

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Somehow PLD and Goodrow had value, maybe a team wants him too?

Centres vs Winger.

The UFA market is bare in regards to centres this off-season. Theres a big demand and need for Centres as well.

on the contrary, there are lots of great options on the market to obtain wingers.

It will definitely cost the Canucks an asset to move Mikhayev or a hockey trade where similar salary player is the return for Mikh.
 

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I wonder if something around Maatta would work for both teams? If Vancouver is looking to put Hronek on his own pair away from Hughes, the two of them worked great together in Detroit.

Not a bad option, but I think the purpose of the Canucks moving Mikhayev's salary is to be able to re-sign Zadorov. Canucks left side is penciled in to be:

Hughes
Soucy
Zadorov

If after July 1, and Z signs elsewhere then i'd definitely look at a Mikhayev for Matta trade. Canucks probably add a tiny bit of sweetner though as Mikh has 2 yrs left and Matta has 1 with a lower cap hit.

Good option though!
 

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Flames should take him if the Canucks will kick in a decent sweetener

Flames and other rebuilding teams should definitely take on Mikh.

Canucks will probably add a 4th or a prospect like Linus Karlsson in the trade.

Furthermore, Mikh can be flipped in 2 seasons at the trade deadline. Speedy forward, that penalty kills can probably get a 3rd or 4th round pick return at the TDL.

Thats a textbook way to buy 2x mid round picks.
 

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Situation: Vancouver misses out on Guentzel on July 1st.

Mikheyev for Laine. Straight up.

Kuzmenko coming off a 39 goal season couldnt survive Tochett's system and the way he wants his players to be defensively responsible.
Is Laine more reliable? Mind you, Kuzy played beer league level of defensive hockey and had 0 battle or hustle when he didnt have the puck on his stick.
 

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Kuzmenko coming off a 39 goal season couldnt survive Tochett's system and the way he wants his players to be defensively responsible.
Is Laine more reliable? Mind you, Kuzy played beer league level of defensive hockey and had 0 battle or hustle when he didnt have the puck on his stick.
Perhaps but I venture the guess that finding a trigger man who can capitalize on Pettersson's playmaking ability might usurp the general worry about "system fit" in the defensive zone. Especially when this can be done via a trade with a guy that both the team and player want out of.
 

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vancouver eats 750k and finds a home for Kuzy with another team for a low price.

canes take mik at 4 mil
vancouver gets 4 mil in cap space
3rd team gets Kuzy and a small add.
 

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There are multiple challenges with Mikheyev.

1. Rarely plays a whole season, and has missed a lot of games with injury, so not particularly reliable.
2. Career high of 32 points.
3. Three of four playoff appearances have resulted in ZERO points.
4. $4.75 million, is way too much for the above.

At 50% you might have some interest, but certainly not at $4.75 million.

To be fair to Mikheyev, two of those zero points were with Toronto. :naughty:

Honestly, I know Tocchet trusted him more than Kuzmenko on Pettersson's wing but it was obviously to me before the trade that Pettersson's production went down when Kuzmenko was taken off the line. Yes, they didn't get scored on much but they never seemed like an offensive threat with Mikheyev on the ice. The only thing that was a guarantee was a shot into the goalie's crest.

The only thing I would say is that is he doesn't have negative or no value, but that he's a player who won't hurt your 3rd or 4th lines in your defensive zone, just don't expect him to contribute offensively.
 

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Perhaps but I venture the guess that finding a trigger man who can capitalize on Pettersson's playmaking ability might usurp the general worry about "system fit" in the defensive zone. Especially when this can be done via a trade with a guy that both the team and player want out of.

I dont think its a bad idea at all from a Canucks pov. Im just worried that Laine will just be healthy scratched much like Kuzy was despite the ability to finish with Pettersson.

Who knows, Maybe Laine is very much more capable than Kuzy was when it comes to 2-way hockey.
 

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Hopefully Allvin can find another Pearson/DeSmith style trade where they can find a player who’s a better fit. I don’t think they’re shedding his whole contract unless they offer up a 2nd+.
 

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