Player Discussion Mike Matheson

Mrb1p

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My word you're still trying to sell this narrative?

This isn't even close to true, a quick look across the league would tell you otherwise. Is Cale Makar a 3D cause under your uniquely insane definition he plays the 3rd most even strength time on his team so he's the 3rd best defenceman.

Devon Toews: 19:40 EV TOI/G
Samuel Girard: 18:51
Cale Makar: 18:30

So unless the best defenceman in the NHL is indeed a third defenceman your metric for quantifying what a 1D is predictably garbage can ready.

I can't believe how much time you spend trying to sell your nonsense, it's hilarious. I'm really looking forward to your response, I wonder what you'll think of next.
Yes let's compare the greatest player in the NHL to Mike Mardeson lmaooooo

But in Makars case it means he's not relied upon as the primary ES defender, yes. That doesn't make him not the best player in the world, but his usage remains the same. It's pretty much black and white.
 

habbubba

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Yes let's compare the greatest player in the NHL to Mike Mardeson lmaooooo

But in Makars case it means he's not relied upon as the primary ES defender, yes. That doesn't make him not the best player in the world, but his usage remains the same. It's pretty much black and white.
You keep going like this and eventually someones gonna catch you in a big butterfly net.
 

Andrei79

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It’s obvious that MSL is scared to put his big boy pants and to give the #1PP job to Hutson. I assume it’s about Matheson’s feelings. I don’t know why else. I really hope he doesn’t do the same with Demidov next season. Caufield, Slaf won’t make a tantrum guaranteed.

You find this "obvious" ? He's playing a 5'10" 160lbs rookie defenseman like 27 minutes. That seems like a coach who's scared ? I don't think we've ever seen that in this city.
 

morhilane

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You find this "obvious" ? He's playing a 5'10" 160lbs rookie defenseman like 27 minutes. That seems like a coach who's scared ? I don't think we've ever seen that in this city.
Even the play-by-play commentators was expecting Matheson to be kicked out of PP1 in the 3rd against the Sabres. Matheson was looking the greenest of all the Ds in that game and should have been held accountable for it, but wasn't.

And Xhekaj can play more than 10 minutes. There is a way to balance the LD TOI.
 
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Mrb1p

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You find this "obvious" ? He's playing a 5'10" 160lbs rookie defenseman like 27 minutes. That seems like a coach who's scared ? I don't think we've ever seen that in this city.
Why isn't said rookie on the PP1? When everyone can see it?

Come on man. I'm not sure why you chose to white knight management so hard these days.
 

Saundies

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You find this "obvious" ? He's playing a 5'10" 160lbs rookie defenseman like 27 minutes. That seems like a coach who's scared ? I don't think we've ever seen that in this city.
You can be confident in some areas and not in others. He's not scared to give (most of) his rookies plenty of rope, but he very well could be scared to rock the boat with any of his veterans, especially a local guy who is probably playing for his next contract on a rebuilding team.

I don't really get it because you'd figure it'd be easier to say something to a vet guy. "Man you should know better than this. Rein it in. You are costing us goals all over the place."

But there's a reason some guys are better junior coaches than they are pros (Ducharme comes to mind).
 

The Gr8 Dane

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Why are we not practicing

A S S E T M A N A G E M E N T

During a tank rebuild?

Head scratching to not sell this guy at his highest value imo.

Some will say it's not EA sports but this is a management that received 2 first for monahan in some shrewd asset management so it's not like this is an unknown concept to hughes and co

Is it personal favoritism? Hometown guy ? Good vet in the locker room? Probably a bit of it all.
 
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26Mats

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Why are we not practicing

A S S E T M A N A G E M E N T

During a tank rebuild?

Head scratching to not sell this guy at his highest value imo.

Some will say it's not EA sports but this is a management that received 2 first for monahan in some shrewd asset management so it's not like this is an unknown concept to hughes and co

Is it personal favoritism? Hometown guy ? Good vet in the locker room? Probably a bit of it all.

I'm not sure how high Matheson's trade value was this summer.

What do you think it was? I say a late 1st or an early 2nd tops. He had an up and down track record. One very good year offensively wasn't going to change that.
 

morhilane

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Good vet in the locker room?
Slaf was clearly frustrated with him at the end of last season (because he never passed to him on the PP, that's in the Rebuild series) and Guhle was pissed at him last game against the Sabres.

I don't think his voice carry much weight with the kids anymore.
 
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teamfirst

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Why are we not practicing

A S S E T M A N A G E M E N T

During a tank rebuild?

Head scratching to not sell this guy at his highest value imo.

Some will say it's not EA sports but this is a management that received 2 first for monahan in some shrewd asset management so it's not like this is an unknown concept to hughes and co

Is it personal favoritism? Hometown guy ? Good vet in the locker room? Probably a bit of it all.

Last TDL was the best time to pull the trigger, a lot of us said so at the time, not sure he has any value now the way he is playing
 
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