Mrb1p
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He's playing 6 minutes on the PP..he plays 15 at es and 4 on the PK. He plays and pair minutes at ES/5v5.
He wouldn't be any better with less ice anyway, he's a bad and flawed player.
Player Discussion Mike Matheson
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He wouldn't be any better with less ice anyway, he's a bad and flawed player.
There is no way HuGo could envision Hutson would be chewing up the minutes he is.
There is still a question of fortitude but if Hutson shows no ill effects through Jan. 2025 Matheson has to go.
The LD is weak and redundant with Matheson and Hutson playing a similar type role.
Not too many fans I know are happy with the make up or want anything to do with it coming into next season.
There is still a question of fortitude but if Hutson shows no ill effects through Jan. 2025 Matheson has to go.
The LD is weak and redundant with Matheson and Hutson playing a similar type role.
Not too many fans I know are happy with the make up or want anything to do with it coming into next season.
Goalfield13
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Matheson will have to go not only for Hutson's sake, but also Guhle's.
Mrb1p
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And Struble and Xhekaj. No reasons why they shouldn't be on the pK and playing 3-4 minutes more a game.
The Gr8 Dane
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I'll be disappointed if we don't move on from Matheson soon.
Petry to him was good asset management, now do it again Hughes, keep it moving man
Petry to him was good asset management, now do it again Hughes, keep it moving man
Goalfield13
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Honestly, the way our management bends over backwards for a mediocre player like Matheson to the detriment of our young D baffles me.
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It's the same story as DD and PD before. Feeding minutes to a mediocre player and wondering why things aren't going well despite the DB page showing success
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Goalfield13
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Petry was good asset management at first, but their inability to improve the RD after he was gone is bad team building. I can't believe they were fine with Matheson-Guhle as plan A to start the season.
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Very rarely does a rebuilding team have put such a future asset as Guhle in a similar situation.
Goalfield13
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And yet, everyone blames Guhle for having a bad game or two or putting himself in a poor position sometimes. Dude is 22 playing top pair on his off side.
I still have a lot of leash for G/H, but their management of our D is mirroring Bergevin's failures with the C position. I know I will get bashed for saying this, but I don't care. They had all offseason to address this, but made us weaker by getting rid of Kova, putting all hopes on Barron and putting assets towards Laine instead (I still like this move in isolation).
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Mrb1p
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Matheson directly flies in the face of the vet = more dependable theory. He plays rookie level D and when his offense isn't there, it's an absolute disaster.
The problem is that, in his case, there's no accountability. Make an egregious turnover that leads to a goal? Hop on for your next shift. Here's some PK time even. Sure, you can be on when we have an empty net (even though the last two games we've done that you've literally performed the play that has cost us the goal). Oh well. You'll get him next time (because you will definitely be on the ice).
Either this guy has incriminating pics of Robidas or the guy on the bench who's supposed to be looking at this and making adjustments is blind. Yes, we have an extremely young D corps but even Nik Lidstrom should have a shift off once in a while if you go rogue and consistently make the worst play available to you every single time.
The problem is that, in his case, there's no accountability. Make an egregious turnover that leads to a goal? Hop on for your next shift. Here's some PK time even. Sure, you can be on when we have an empty net (even though the last two games we've done that you've literally performed the play that has cost us the goal). Oh well. You'll get him next time (because you will definitely be on the ice).
Either this guy has incriminating pics of Robidas or the guy on the bench who's supposed to be looking at this and making adjustments is blind. Yes, we have an extremely young D corps but even Nik Lidstrom should have a shift off once in a while if you go rogue and consistently make the worst play available to you every single time.
Kaiden Ghoul
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Meh the first few years when he arrive, he was prone to dangerous turn over.
Also, why throw a kid who has played what ? 30 games per year including tournament to 82 games in a season... And what kind of message you want to send to the vet in your team and around the league via trade/ufa if you give the pp1 time to a rookie over someone who put 62 points the season prior.
Its not like Hutson is playing only 3rd pair, patience my friend, Matheson is hopefully gone next year, for now lets Matheson produce this season and by next deadline, he should be gone and Hutson will take PP1
Problem is Matheson spot is not in danger. Already playing Hutson like crazy at his rookie years.
In a perfect world Matheson is your 4th D and your able to manage his risk/reward by using him less.
Right now he is in the wrong chair and its exposing his weakness. Its not his fault if the coach overuse him, but it really dont help his game.
In a perfect world Matheson is your 4th D and your able to manage his risk/reward by using him less.
Right now he is in the wrong chair and its exposing his weakness. Its not his fault if the coach overuse him, but it really dont help his game.
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1st pair is supposed to play all situations: ES, PK, PP late period & game situations, accumulating most TOI which is what Matheson does.
Again if Habs had a legit 1st pair Dman (like Weber) able to absorb 25TOI in all game situations, Matheson would be properly slotted on the 2nd pair w 19-21 TOI but they don’t.
This is why Redenbacher pick & actually panning out is vitally important to the org
Mrb1p
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Lmao nah this isn't a serious post.
No, a first pair is only at 5v5.
Pp1, pk1 and even 4v4 units can be different. What you're trying to describe is a number 1D, which he is clearly not since he does not play the most in the toughest situation : 5v5.
In a perfect world Matheson is on bottom feeder doing what he's done his whole career. He's not a player you can contend with. Flawed players are not adequate for the majority of contenders. Carolina is the only one that's been employing one.
His main problem has nothing to do with overusage. Matheson cheats. He get caught too high way too often. He's basically allergic to the dzone at this point.
He also trying to prove that he is better than Hutson....with 1/3 of the effort.
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It’s obvious that MSL is scared to put his big boy pants and to give the #1PP job to Hutson. I assume it’s about Matheson’s feelings. I don’t know why else. I really hope he doesn’t do the same with Demidov next season. Caufield, Slaf won’t make a tantrum guaranteed.
Mrb1p
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Of course he is. He's been scared of it ever since he's been around. Gally and Andy were both on PP1 for way too long too, Andy and Gally in the top 6, etc.
This or it comes from Hughes because Matheson is his pet.
salbutera
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Some of you have lost your minds and possess zero patience
Hutson has gradually been given more & more responsibility / TOI and we’re just 5-weeks into the season - if you can’t see that trend ….
As I stated pre season, i expected Hutson would likely assume PP QB duties by US Thanksgiving or shortly thereafter… he’s on track to meet that milestone
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My word you're still trying to sell this narrative?
This isn't even close to true, a quick look across the league would tell you otherwise. Is Cale Makar a 3D cause under your uniquely insane definition he plays the 3rd most even strength time on his team so he's the 3rd best defenceman.
Devon Toews: 19:40 EV TOI/G
Samuel Girard: 18:51
Cale Makar: 18:30
So unless the best defenceman in the NHL is indeed a third defenceman your metric for quantifying what a 1D is predictably garbage can ready.
I can't believe how much time you spend trying to sell your nonsense, it's hilarious. I'm really looking forward to your response, I wonder what you'll think of next.
