detroit would easily be able to get a 1st at the TDL for mike green with little to no salary retention
Value of: Mike Green to NYR
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detroit would easily be able to get a 1st at the TDL for mike green with little to no salary retention
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This, I agree with.
Some teams might be put off by the extra year, but some might like it.
I agree they'd be able to get a first regardless of his salary, but the point is, if they're trading Green, they're packing it in for this season and next, so they might as well retain to increase the bidding.
Green at $2M retained would cost ~1.3M for the remainder of the season and $4M for the next year. That opens up the bidding, and that's a good thing.
Ehhh, you're probably underestimating Greener then. He's not anywhere near the defensive liability he was portrayed to be in his D.C. days and he's been an offensive lightning rod for Detroit where pretty much no one outside of Pavel Datsyuk could operate. He's a great player. In fact, many Wings fans think that if they want to tank, the first move has to be trading Green, because he's keeping Detroit afloat.
I wouldn't mind picking up green for Toronto.
Yes, we have plenty of lefty defencemen but we could REALLY use a veteran presence on the defence and for our team the extra year isn't the end of the world.
I for one would not mind having a Norris nominated offensive defenceman teaching Reilly and Gardiner how to play.
Reilly-Gardiner-Green down the left side wouldn't be bad at all.
That being said, I think toronto has the prospect depth to NOT include a first round pick in this deal and make it palatable with Detroit. Including the 1st would be a deal breaker for me.
Yes, we have plenty of lefty defencemen but we could REALLY use a veteran presence on the defence and for our team the extra year isn't the end of the world.
I for one would not mind having a Norris nominated offensive defenceman teaching Reilly and Gardiner how to play.
Reilly-Gardiner-Green down the left side wouldn't be bad at all.
That being said, I think toronto has the prospect depth to NOT include a first round pick in this deal and make it palatable with Detroit. Including the 1st would be a deal breaker for me.
Green is a righty. And the extra year is more likely to be a boon to a transacting team than anything. Green is a good defenseman. And he's proven to be a good veteran (there's evidence that he's taken Detroit's rookie RHD PMD Ryan Sproul under his wing...).
I could see the interest from Toronto in Green, but I think Edmonton (with a couple other challengers like NYR and Boston) will foreclose over Toronto. I think the extra year (especially if Detroit retains) would be a good plan moving forward for a handful of teams. He's showing no signs of slowing down now, but that could change in 2 years...
I didn't realize he was a RHD. Then I'd be all ****ing over him.
I still wouldn't include TOR 1st rounder, but I do feel very confident that Toronto has the player/prospect depth to get it done without it.
That's definitely possible. If Detroit does end up selling, I doubt Kenny would lock himself into a 1st round pick paradigm. I'd expect him to open up the team to any/all offers...
I do think Green will incur a decent number of offers, though, if Detroit sells. He's somewhat reinvented himself in Detroit. Kronwall has had an epic drop-off (due to hip/knee issues) and Green has taken his place handily as our #1D with 24 minutes a night, 1st unit PP, 2nd unit PK, and a bit of grit in between. I think most scouts would see that he's proven his maturity and two-way play in an organization that is somewhat under fire to maintain its playoff status..
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Would be tough to do without a 1st round pick. Using the Yandle trade as an example you are looking at Kapanen + Dermott + 2nd.
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No he's been by far our best Defenseman, Green has 11 points in 18 games so far tying him with both Zetterberg and Nyquist for the team lead in points so far. After this year he only has another year left and then more then likely will be gone as we will need to give big contracts to both Mrazek and Larkin by the 2018/19 season. Holland wanted Green pretty bad a few years back can't see Holland trading his best D man right now.
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Not really, it's more so the facts that he's 31, injury prone and his offensive numbers have gone down combined with the fact that the Rangers have Adam Clendening who has been great when the moron behind the bench has played him.
Number1RedWingsFan52
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If Detroit continues to falter this year, And Holland decides to trade Vanek, Miller,Ott, Smith and maybe Green to open up some cap room for next summer. Then i could possibly see Holland trading Green at the TDL possibly to Edmonton. Don't see Holland trading Green within the conference though.
