Mike Bossy vs Pavel Bure who's the better goal scorer all time?

[Sentinel]

Bure had his two highest scoring seasons in a high scoring era.

1999-2000:
Bure: 59 goals
Nolan: 44 goals
Amonte 43 goals

2000-2001:
Bure: 59 goals
Sakic: 54 goals
Jagr: 52 goals

 

[MadLuke]

Bure had his two highest scoring seasons in a high scoring era.

This just show how much it is impossible to make law about misinformation, most of them are a factually correct sentence like this.
60 is indeed higher than 59 and 58, even if it is scored during a 84 games season and 2000-2001 were really low scoring 82 games seasons.

But incredibly misleading.

Which is why he never touched Gretzky's single season totals

85 in 76 or 69 in 60 is not that far apart than 92 in 80 and 87 in 74, obviously lower, but you can stretch your finger and kind of touch it.

Lemieux scored 52 playoff goals during his first 60 playoff games (23-27 years old), 22-24 Gretzky (what look his best playoff goal scoring stretch) it was 47 goals in 58 game played, not sure we should act has if Lemieux peak was not touching Gretzky goal scoring here.

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most gpg in a season since 1980, at least 40 games played

Gretzky: 1.18
Gretzky: 1.15
Lemieux: 1.15
Lemieux: 1.12
Hull: 1.10
Neely: 1.02
Mogilny: .99

If Lemieux play 83 games in 1993 and score 93 goals, does it change in any way how good he was at scoring goals ?

 

[JianYang]

Bossy was a straight up assassin for goal scoring.

Bure was more explosive and made for highlight reels.

For goal scoring and goal scoring only, I think you have to go with bossy. He's in extremely rarified air for his ability to score goals.

 

[Gorskyontario]

1999-2000:
Bure: 59 goals
Nolan: 44 goals
Amonte 43 goals

2000-2001:
Bure: 59 goals
Sakic: 54 goals
Jagr: 52 goals

Those aren't his two highest scoring seasons.

This just show how much it is impossible to make law about misinformation, most of them are a factually correct sentence like this.
60 is indeed higher than 59 and 58, even if it is scored during a 84 games season and 2000-2001 were really low scoring 82 games seasons.

I look at the stats and I don't make excuses.

 

[67 others]

Not really sure of that premise, as the older generation that played in 4x-50-70 games season in a very low scoring NHL could benefit from some adjusted stats,

Of the top 50 leaders in non-adjusted goals, 9 started to play before 1970, adjusted you go up to 11.

Howe get a boost over a recent generation like Gretzky, Richard goes from #33 to #11.

Its still hypothetical adjustments that doesn't take into account that certain player styles would have adjusted well to any era and may not fit with a significant reduction.
The man shot 21% his entire career. Would that be less today? probably, but not much. He wasn't flashy or physical. He just had an uncanny ability to find seams and laser it home, while taking back alley mugging levels of cross checks to the back and levels physical abuse not seen today. Tough as nails, just not one to drop the gloves. He was also an excellent back checker.

I mean, you are willing to point out that Lemieux age 23-27 scored 52 goals in his first 60 playoff games to compare him to Gretzky age 22-24 scoring 47 in 58 games . Why is it so hard for you to also point out that Bossy scored 51 goals in 56 playoff games over 3 years at age 21-23?

 

[MadLuke]

I mean, you are willing to point out that Lemieux age 23-27 scored 52 goals in his first 60 playoff games to compare him to Gretzky age 22-24 scoring 47 in 58 games . Why is it so hard for you to also point out that Bossy scored 51 goals in 56 playoff games over 3 years at age 21-23?

This was 2 different conversation...... (not sure why there wsa a Lemieux vs Gretzky talk in this thread but that what I was responding too)

If you look at my previous message about Bossy;

All-time as said just above, consistency with similar peak, unfair or not, make it really easy to give it to Bossy. he won 4 cups scoring 61 goals in 72 games.

Its still hypothetical adjustments that doesn't take into account that certain player styles would have adjusted well to any era and may not fit with a significant reduction.

100% true, but that really not what adjustment try to do too, when you adjust for inflation the price of a Model T, it is not saying that how much it would cost now in the market (or to make)

 

[KevinRedkey]

Maybe at their absolute peak, it could be Bure - but Bossy did it consistently for way longer.

Voted Bossy quite easily.