Value of: Mika Zibanejad

[c_mak]

I wouldn't take this player unless I was getting a first rounder and a prospect. Dude is dead weight. Cares more about life outside hockey than a hockey life

 

[Captain Mountain]

The Trouba deal shows that unmovable contracts are movable and that Drury would rather get nothing back than add/retain to make a hockey trade. So the question of “value of” becomes irrelevant. If Zibanejad is moved Drury will do everything he can to retain nothing or as little as possible and attach no other assets. The Trouba trade being the exact model. Trouba had 8 points after the trade and he has a similar cap hit. Zibanejad is still a 30 goal 60-70 point player. I don’t think the Rangers will get anything of substance back - similar to the Vaakanainen + 4th, but maybe someone who has a 3M cap hit instead of a depth D, and that will be that. Best options are extremely young rosters with cap space who can benefit from a veteran who can take some minutes off of youth. Usual suspects like Anaheim, SJ, Chicago, etc. Does Drury get him to waive, do any of those teams have an interest? If so, what’s basically an asset neutral exchange that makes the cap work. That’s the only type of deal that happens featuring Zibanejad. It’s essentially who could we convince him to waive for that will take him if we give him to them “for free” and then whatever is coming back is just the bodies/numbers that make it work.

Trouba's deal expires in 2026 and the Rangers had to wait until he had limited trade protection.

If the idea is that Drury would rather get nothing back than add/retain to make a hockey trade and the argument is based on Trouba, then he may be waiting a few years before trading him.

And it seems like a leap to think Anaheim, SJ, Chicago, etc. want a player in his 30s with term. Typically they do not unless its made worth their while.

 

[Breakers]

Guaranteed Zibby and Miller are gonna fight each other in the locker room next season

 

[TGWL]

Guaranteed Zibby and Miller are gonna fight each other in the locker room next season

I doubt it.

 

[Juxtaposer]

And scott gomez?

Twenty f***ing years ago.

Zibanejad has a full NMC and five years remaining on his current contract. He can't be waived like Goodrow or threatened with waivers like Trouba. So where exactly is the leverage coming from to make him waive?

 

[bringbacktheskate604]

Didn't they already say no to him earlier this year?

I don't think he's their main target but with Chytil hurt again we need to add a legit 2C and he's a good one.
No idea what his value is but unless a guy like Barzel is made available there's not a lot of options out there.

 

[Jared Grayden]

I don't think he's their main target but with Chytil hurt again we need to add a legit 2C and he's a good one.
No idea what his value is but unless a guy like Barzel is made available there's not a lot of options out there.

Didn't Vancouver already explicitly reject a deal with Zibanejad as the main piece for Miller earlier? Doubt their opinion on him has improved substantially in that time. I'm skeptical he is a capable top 6 center at all anymore. With his recent and likely continued age decline, not sure why a team would bet on him unless they were giving back an equally risky contract.

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

Twenty f***ing years ago.

Zibanejad has a full NMC and five years remaining on his current contract. He can't be waived like Goodrow or threatened with waivers like Trouba. So where exactly is the leverage coming from to make him waive?

Every time you guys say someone cant get moved, they always get moved

 

[QuizGuy66]

Wow a Full NMC clause and because of the way the contract is structured a buyout doesn't give any cap relief (noticed it was contract in the top-10 looked up for buyout in Puck Pedia when I was admittedly looking for Palat's buyout) and could not believe they only save $667k for 5 years followed by a charge of $333k for the next 5. They are so on the hook.

And a full NMC so you can't ship him to a cap floor team like the Coyotes of a few years ago were - he controls his destiny that way.

I mean it is a front office that excels at poisoning relationships with players but man it just feels like they are badly stuck unless Zibanejad definitively wants out and has a place where the interest is mutual and where they'd take some percentage of his cap hit.

Bad bad bad.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Every time you guys say someone cant get moved, they always get moved

Whatever you say man, good luck.