Mika Zibanejad

[SeanAveryTheGreatOne]

I don't have a problem with him making $8.5M, being a new dad, and sucking at hockey. I'm a new dad and would kill for that.

I have a problem because this is the salary cap era, and he stinks. Your 1C costing $8.5m through 2030 and having +/- of -13 on the year guarantees you cannot win the Cup. If he could be bought out such that he was given the lump sum of his contract and NYR didn't incur a cap hit, I would love that.

 

[Jauffre]

Just take Xanax , it’s easy to get prescribed.


Problem solved.

He's slow as is, no need to slow his nervous system down too

 

[Siddi]

I'd say age and Trocheck emerging into a #1C.

Trocheck has never been close to being a 1C and is a disaster on his own, Mika with all his issues is still out producing Trocheck.

 

[TBF1972]

Yikes man, you're usually a way better poster than this. I get that Zibanejad is probably gonna end up being an albatross but you can't just tell someone to "suck it up". If it were that easy, people would legit do it, stuff like this leads into other grotesque shit if you don't get it fixed.

As for the NYR part, they made their bed on that deal and the NHLPA is not gonna allow some team to just void a contract because of that. He had concussion issues previous to Drury being an imbecile and inking that contract, why wasn't an issue raised then? Drury also could've flipped him after getting Eichel from Vegas which was also talked about. The Rangers have no one else to blame but themselves and they aren't/shouldn't get out of jail free card in this regard.

no he isn't

or you must have missed the jack vs kaapo debates?

 

[ElLeetch]

players should be contractually barred from having children while active.

 

[Sensatauro]

So my team needs to carry one of the worst contracts in the league and basically carry dead space at times because he’s a baby?

Would you like that for your own team?

Do you think most NHL’ers (let alone people in society) don’t have some moments that might constitute a panic attack? Yeah, and most just suck it up and get on with it.

Not telling the guy he can’t get help or sit out games, but if he doesn’t want to fulfill his contract responsibilities because of his panic attacks, his contract really should be voided.

Everything about this post is laughable. His panic attacks will be painted on medically from his concussion issues, which come from playing hockey as a member of the nyr. Which means he will go on ltir and not voided his contract.

Clown opinion is a clown opinion. Only an American would think the financial issues supercede anything and deserves his contract voided.

 

[Peltz]

Because a panic attack isn’t a physical sickness. If he had a physical sickness, I’d understand.

It’s a mental illness, and sorry I don’t really understand about a guy making 8.5M a year to start grouching about a mental sickness. Everyone deals with stuff like that and unfortunately we don’t get to take off work with full pay and without losing our jobs.

This post gets like... 50 things wrong in just a few sentences. It's actually impressive, congrats.

The body is a unit. The brain is part of that. And money and health are not the same thing either.

And just because you don't get to take off work without losing your job doesn't make it right.

It's time to move away from the neanderthal approach to mental health.

Zib has had some concussions too, and we all know depression can be a long term side effect. You don't know what he's going through.

 

[Peltz]

Only an American would think the financial issues supercede anything and deserves his contract voided.

Come on man. I'm American - and people from other parts of the world paint us as cold, heartless, imbeciles.

And they're 100% right about that... I have no faith in my fellow countrymen.

 

[crump]

If Mika needs to sit out games because he’s having panic attacks, that sounds like a textbook case for voiding a contract.

Read that in this guys voice…

 

[Jersey Fresh]

To be clear, is it even confirmed he’s dealing with panic attacks?

 

[Romang67]

To be clear, is it even confirmed he’s dealing with panic attacks?

The Swedish journalist (Bjurman) who apparently reported on it is about as connected to Swedish players for the Rangers as can be. It would be very out of character, and potentially career damaging, for him to report on this if it weren't true.

This is assuming the translation of the article is correct. I don't subscribe to that paper, so I haven't seen it.

 

[teravaineSAROS]

It’s a mental illness, and sorry I don’t really understand about a guy making 8.5M a year to start grouching about a mental sickness. Everyone deals with stuff like that and unfortunately we don’t get to take off work with full pay and without losing our jobs.

I understand your point but I don't know if the focus there should be on pointing fingers at Zibanejad.

Would you be upset at Zibanejad if people were occasionally allowed to take time off work without those consequences?

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

Come on man. I'm American - and people from other parts of the world paint us as cold, heartless, imbeciles.

And they're 100% right about that... I have no faith in my fellow countrymen.

Yup. At least Mika has good healthcare.

Hope dude is alright, feels like he’s maybe trying to play through somethin he shouldn’t play through.

 

[Nogatco Rd]

If Mika needs to sit out games because he’s having panic attacks, that sounds like a textbook case for voiding a contract.

The textbook:

 

[Mad Dog Tannen]

Because a panic attack isn’t a physical sickness. If he had a physical sickness, I’d understand.

It’s a mental illness, and sorry I don’t really understand about a guy making 8.5M a year to start grouching about a mental sickness. Everyone deals with stuff like that and unfortunately we don’t get to take off work with full pay and without losing our jobs.

 

[DevilDog99]

Enough with the speculation. This guy sucks- not because of a slump- he literally pretends to play hockey. I think he might have the puck on his stick less than 10 secs a game….

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

needs to be in prison at this point

 

[TheNumber4]

Saw him run into Hathaway at center ice today. Definitely looks checked out.

Maybe he needs to produce more beats. Or less beats.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Yikes man, you're usually a way better poster than this. I get that Zibanejad is probably gonna end up being an albatross but you can't just tell someone to "suck it up". If it were that easy, people would legit do it, stuff like this leads into other grotesque shit if you don't get it fixed.

As for the NYR part, they made their bed on that deal and the NHLPA is not gonna allow some team to just void a contract because of that. He had concussion issues previous to Drury being an imbecile and inking that contract, why wasn't an issue raised then? Drury also could've flipped him after getting Eichel from Vegas which was also talked about. The Rangers have no one else to blame but themselves and they aren't/shouldn't get out of jail free card in this regard.

I don't know about anything undiagnosed but as far as I know he hasn't had a concussion in over 5 years. His insane 19-20 season was after his concussion issues. He's had all of his best seasons long after his concussions. He is either depressed or suffering from crippling confidence issues or both. But as bad as the contract looks now. It's mostly hindsight and there's no way to know a guy consistently in the 80-90 point pace range would become a non-NHL player by 31. I believe he had more than 90 points two seasons ago. This wasn't a scrub or even an injury prone player getting a big contract. It was a lemon and NMCs are frankly a disgrace. A player can just dog it for 6 years and a team has to take it.

 

[TBF1972]

I don't know about anything undiagnosed but as far as I know he hasn't had a concussion in over 5 years. His insane 19-20 season was after his concussion issues. He's had all of his best seasons long after his concussions. He is either depressed or suffering from crippling confidence issues or both. But as bad as the contract looks now. It's mostly hindsight and there's no way to know a guy consistently in the 80-90 point pace range would become a non-NHL player by 31. I believe he had more than 90 points two seasons ago. This wasn't a scrub or even an injury prone player getting a big contract. It was a lemon and NMCs are frankly a disgrace. A player can just dog it for 6 years and a team has to take it.

on the other hand how many players have forced their way on the rangers roster. i haven't seen many rangers fan complaining about how trouba, fox and panarin ended up with them. that those players than try to stay in their comfort zone is kind of logical.

 

[Grifter3511]

on the other hand how many players have forced their way on the rangers roster. i haven't seen many rangers fan complaining about how trouba, fox and panarin ended up with them. that those players than try to stay in their comfort zone is kind of logical.

You mean waiting for him to become a ufa and then offering him a contract?

 

[SnowblindNYR]

on the other hand how many players have forced their way on the rangers roster. i haven't seen many rangers fan complaining about how trouba, fox and panarin ended up with them. that those players than try to stay in their comfort zone is kind of logical.

I'll give you Trouba and Fox but Panarin was just a free agent just like every other player signs free agents.

This is not just a Rangers thing though. In this situation it is but in reality it's a shitty clause that gives players the incentives to dog it.

 

[TBF1972]

You mean waiting for him to become a ufa and then offering him a contract?

i never said the rangers did something wrong. if i remember correctly panarin choose new york over other options because of his girlfriend (a model). new york attracts a lot of players and those players want to stay. they might be willing to sign cheaper contracts for the right to veto trades. the first helps managing the cap, the second limits the roster flexibility.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

i never said the rangers did something wrong. if i remember correctly panarin choose new york over other options because of his girlfriend (a model). new york attracts a lot of players and those players want to stay. they might be willing to sign cheaper contracts for the right to veto trades. the first helps managing the cap, the second limits the roster flexibility.

I can't really think of anyone that gave us a significant discount. Panarin by like 500k maybe? Even Henrik didn't give us a discount and he might have been the most marketable player on the team and the face of the franchise. Bottom line teams in general use NMCs to stay competitive with free agents.

 

[TBF1972]

I'll give you Trouba and Fox but Panarin was just a free agent just like every other player signs free agents.

This is not just a Rangers thing though. In this situation it is but in reality it's a shitty clause that gives players the incentives to dog it.

i don't disagree. as i said it in my other post, it is a trade off between cap space and roster flexibility.

if an agent pushes for max term, max $ plus trade protection it might be best to let the player walk or explore other options. good gm'ing is sometimes about not signing a contract. carolina for years excelled/excels in it.