Proposal: Mika Zibanejad for Trevor Zegras

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Jerzey Devil

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I think you’re giving him way too much credit. He looks like he should be taking molly and putting daisies in his hair at an EDM concert. Iron Maiden is way too aggressive for someone like Zib, unless he got it at hot topic and doesn’t realize it’s a real band.
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There’s a very specific to the area type of person that he looks like to me. In the 80’s in the NY/NJ area there were lots of dudes who looked just like what I described and Mika reminds me of that every time I see him. Basically an 80’s/Metal/Guido if that makes sense.
 
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imjustzach

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Both teams don’t seem happy with their guy atm lol
I'm curious about where you're getting the idea that ANA is unhappy with Zegras. If anything, I would say that both the team and team leadership have had nothing but praise for Zegras' work ethic and attitude. Even fans of the team who watch him every game by and large agree that Zegras has been doing everything his coaches ask him in terms of polishing his all-around game.

Interestingly when he was a point machine (for his age), the narrative was he's all flash and has no defense but now that his defensive responsibility has increased but point production is down, the narrative is he's a bust that ANA is unhappy with?

To be clear, I think the goal is for him to be well-rounded while still producing so that remains to be seen but between an injury shortened season, an ask to shift the focus of his game, as well as an attempt to shift him out to the wing (not his natural position) due to our Center depth, I don't see any reason for the ANA front office to be unhappy with where he is currently.
 

Lion Hound

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Does Zib still look like he should be driving an I-ROC while wearing acid wash jeans, an Iron Maiden t-shirt, and black Reebok?
Don't get him confused for that badass Gen X look.

The reality is he's far more of a Hipster, likely to be seen in a no name coffee shop, drinking a vente decaf soy mocha latte, thinking of how he can bring his DJ act to Burning Man 2024.
 

Flan the incredible

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His contract is absolutely buyout proof and he’s like the third best center on his own team right now signed until 2030 for 8.5M.
You are over reacting on epic levels. No one is buying him out and name any player that has been buried that scored 72 points? He hasn't played well but still has 7 pts in 9 games. He is also not the 3rd beat center again massive over reaction to Chytil playing well. Chytil has a 9.7 shooting percentage for his career and is shooting over 16% right now. I hope it continues but pretty sure it won't. Carrick has a higher career shooting percentage. Historically he doesn't finish well.

Pump the breaks
 

bernmeister

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Why would the Rangers do that.
Neither team actually does it, not 1:1.
To answer your question, Rs recognize legit ability of Zib, but are beyond frustrated that he plays w/Krieder, who we ARE keeping, and we know there is chemistry there, we've seen it before, but it is too hit and miss these days.

And while his 8.5 is not a bargain, it is not exorbitant for current NHL pivots his level now, and will be a bargain if he holds up physically for later years = mid 30s.

That said, roll of the dice on Zegras = reset, not cheap but cheaper, shows less physically but belief he can be more of a sniper, more consistent fit w/Kreider. Whether we keep or move Shesty, we need to move vets to get ahead of cap situation. We are not effed yet but need to be proactive to get ahead of the curve.

Zib will be mid 30's by the time the Ducks are contending. While Anaheim doesn't need the money now, in 2-3 years they'll need cap space assuming a few players break out between now and then. If no one does, then Zib is still wasted because he can't be moved for assets. If Zegras completely busts in the next 2 years and becomes a 0 point player that doesn't play defense, Ducks can just let him go and would be better off.

Rangers are in win now mode. There's a chance Zegras turns it around and performs better on a better team and if he's allowed to play center and his style of game instead of dump and chase, but why should Rangers risk it when they know what they have with Zib. He's got more points this year so far, so he's the better win now player.
bold = fallacy to extent that it is smarter to go 8 steps backward to go 10-11 forward, = EXTENDING the window for longer than stupidly putting everything in 1-2 years

I currently see zib attached to shesty in a deal, somewhere

Zegras to Rs, I note Ana dissatisfied. Rumors he wants to eventually go east.
Ducks should not give him away, nor play hard to get if there is a good offer, esp since they have good pivot depth

what package works for both remains to be figured out
but 1:1 = no
 

seabass45

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Mika has a full NMC that turns into a modified NTC seven days before the 2030 trade deadline.
 

wavaxa2

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I've never seen a fan base so eager to get rid of someone like Rangers fans want to get rid of Zibanejad. Did he poop in all your yards or something?
 

Pavel Buchnevich

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I've never seen a fan base so eager to get rid of someone like Rangers fans want to get rid of Zibanejad. Did he poop in all your yards or something?
It’s that he’s not good anymore. The people who watch him play every game want him gone. Doesn’t that tell you something?
 

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Zibanejad is a really good, overpaid 2C who had a few peak years where he looked like a 15-30 C in the league. Now he’s probably around 40ish. He’s still way better than Zegras but expensive and Rangers have cap troubles, but Zegras won’t help or improve a win-now group the age of the Rangers team at all.

OBVIOUSLY not a realistic thought, but the Rangers - given the age of Trouba, Kreider, Panarin, Trochek and the contracts they have - would be better off going older and going for a Crosby/Malkin TYPE (there aren’t many, so it’s a very moot discussion) who is older and also in win now mode than going for an iffy younger player who isn’t ready to take over Zib’s responsibilities. I can’t think of many options - contract wise you might do better going after a guy like McCann or gambling on a guy like Norris. Realistically, no one wants to do a C for C swap and the Rangers aren’t reaaallly in a position to downgrade, even if age and contract are favorable, because of the age of their other main players and where they are in their contention window.

If anything, if a similar aged, established C asks out of his current situation the Rangers would be better off adding to Zib to make a lateral upgrade if they feel Zib has outworn his welcome/no longer competes hard enough to be our 1C for contention. Since I don’t know of any established top line centers who are looking for a change right now, that’s a no go. If someone like Aho or Larkin were suddenly demanding out, I could see the Rangers being willing to sweeten things for a Zib swap, but that’s a complete pipe dream.

I agree. The Rangers really aren't looking to take a step back or at least during the season. Whatever they do during the year will be to enhance the teams chances of making the playoffs and then going deep and moving Mika for Zegras doesn't do that. And it's not that they won't move Mika no matter what but it will have to be for another top 6 player/preferably center who there's no doubt can take on that role on a contender right now.....not someone iffy who falls into being a work in progress.

That said Mika has not been playing particularly well and IMO he's been dragging his linemates down. He has in the past been a notoriously slow starter though.
 
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I've never seen a fan base so eager to get rid of someone like Rangers fans want to get rid of Zibanejad. Did he poop in all your yards or something?
Some Ranger fans are like high school girls in that they over react to everything. Player slumps he is the worst player ever.....

Mika hasn't been great so far this year and that is like he stole their boyfriend. He is wearing his varsity jacket too. Could you believe that guy.
 
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Trevor Zegras
This is exactly the type of trade the Ducks should make. If not Zib than another older centre who can stabilize their forward group while showing the young guys how to be a pro. Maybe Kadri would be a good choice too?
 

anezthes

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This is exactly the type of trade the Ducks should make. If not Zib than another older centre who can stabilize their forward group while showing the young guys how to be a pro. Maybe Kadri would be a good choice too?

No.
 

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On that note, how about a Norris for Zibi swap, 1 for 1? Who says no?
I would do this right now easily and it benefits both teams, Ottawa getting back Z probably secures them a playoff spot for the next couple years so they can actually get their younger players that crucial experience and for the Rangers Norris can be good for the future as a reliable #2C.
 
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