Post-Game Talk: Mika May

[PuckLuck3043]

Nice win, felt in control for basically the whole game until the end and they held on. PP adjustments to counter the aggressive Canes PK was great, that's what you need to do draw them to you and make those quick passes and catch them out of sorts.

Igor looked a little rusty early but settled in. Look to see him more locked in on Tuesday.

Officiating was weird. Seemed like we went 2-2 on our PPs and the refs were like "ok, no more power plays for them that's not fair" because tons of stuff was let go and then Fox gets called for a chintzy slash and Trouba gets called for a crosscheck where he barely shoves the guy and he flops. And that Rempe call really should've been interference on Staal against Rempe, Rempe is outside the blue and the lane is there he's allowed to get to that ice and Staal shoved him into the goalie. If that's Panarin pushed onto the goalie, Staal gets called.

The officiating has been ass the entire playoffs. It's unacceptable.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

There's actually a simple explanation for this game.

MoneyPuck, unlike most analytics websites, does take special teams into account on their Deserve-To-Win O'Meter.

The Hurricanes beat us on overall xG including powerplays because 1) they had like 10,000 more powerplays than we did and 2) our powerplays ended in 27 seconds combined because we scored.

For the purposes of building up chances, powerplays were effectively 5-0.

Nobody who follows analytics actually thinks the Hurricanes were better in that game because they weren't. It's a sample error from unequal opportunity and two quick goals.

Isn't this enough to discredit the model? I know it's rare that the above happens two out of two PPs but it's not THAT rare that it happens one time in a particular game. The fact that teams by definition get hurt in the model because their PP is more efficient than another team's seems like a fatal flaw.

 

[Machinehead]

Isn't this enough to discredit the model? I know it's rare that the above happens two out of two PPs but it's not THAT rare that it happens one time in a particular game. The fact that teams by definition get hurt in the model because their PP is more efficient than another team's seems like a fatal flaw.

It is really rare that a team has two powerplays and scores almost immediately on both of them, and then doesn't get another one.

 

[duhmetreE]

MoneyPuck has been off for a while.

We had more xG at 5v5.

We had the better special teams.

Turtling in the last few minutes skewed the metrics. They got well over a 1/3rd of their xG in the last couple minutes. It's not indicative of how the game went.

Hopefully we learn and stop turtling

 

[SnowblindNYR]

It is really rare that a team has two powerplays and scores almost immediately on both of them, and then doesn't get another one.

Yes, and I understand that if it happens 1 time on 5 PP chances the distortion won't be super pronounced but having that distortion at all seems like a bad flaw in the model.

 

[Machinehead]

Yes, and I understand that if it happens 1 time on 5 PP chances the distortion won't be super pronounced but having that distortion at all seems like a bad flaw in the model.

You just can't account for everything in the game.

I'm not saying it's not a "flaw" but you can't do anything about it.

 

[RangerLifer]

Sam and Dave's goal calls on radio:

Sorry if this was posted already.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Does anyone have postgame to share?

Go back to page 8 post# 194

 

[Kodiak]

I used to pretend that shit I say and/or do has a bearing on the game. I've learned to shed that anxiety. Only took nearly 40 years. LOL.



If we win the Cup, I'll buy a random poster on here a brand new authentic jersey of their choice.

Well, you’re f***ing old now. I remember the old days where we used to post here and I was older than you. Oh, shit…

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I like reading rival boards (peacefully, I don't post or react to their posts) but the Pens' one is my favorite so far. The Rangers were severely outclassed and outplayed in this game apparently.

 

[will1066]

Can someone go back to the TDA? Wasn't there another call to Kuznetsov (?) also? Shouldn't we have had two minors called on Carolina?

 

[PuckLuck3043]

I like reading rival boards (peacefully, I don't post or react to their posts) but the Pens' one is my favorite so far. The Rangers were severely outclassed and outplayed in this game apparently.

Yes, They only outplayed Carolina for 55 minutes. Sometimes I honestly don't understand what games people watch.

 

[bl02]

Can someone go back to the TDA? Wasn't there another call to Kuznetsov (?) also? Shouldn't we have had two minors called on Carolina?

Should have been a tripping call on Necas as well as the TDA penalty but had no doubt they were gonna use some game management and just call the one on TDA. No way they were gonna give the Rangers a full 2 min 5 on 3 pp.

 

[FultonReed]

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Ever had the bright idea to take your BP immediately after a playoff game? Me neither.

I said earlier today that my body is NOT ready. I was right. I’m not sure I can survive this.

yeah. I did it during the cup run in 2014, but I was high the entire time so it was compromised lol

 

[Black Aces]

His calling of Rangers Canucks in 94 is basically why I’m a Rangers fan.

His Messier hattrick call in game 6 of ECF is one of the best calls in my lifetime

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Can someone go back to the TDA? Wasn't there another call to Kuznetsov (?) also? Shouldn't we have had two minors called on Carolina?

Originally yes. Then the idiot refs looked at video to see if there was a major and said the only penalty was on TDA.

 

[Cmox]

Sam and Dave's goal calls on radio:

Sorry if this was posted already.

Eons better than what we watched. I love sam and dave together.

 

[Grifter3511]

Yes, They only outplayed Carolina for 55 minutes. Sometimes I honestly don't understand what games people watch.

Ranger haters want to point at the TOA as the indicator that Canes deserved better, but that doesn't tell the tale of Canes getting more pps and Rangers sitting on a 2 goal lead after the 1st.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Should have been a tripping call on Necas as well as the TDA penalty but had no doubt they were gonna use some game management and just call the one on TDA. No way they were gonna give the Rangers a full 2 min 5 on 3 pp.

The game wasn't in Pittsburgh so you're right.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Went through and watched most of what I missed.

Canes got away with a loooottt of stuff. High stick on Trocheck is a black and white call that was clearly missed. DeAngelo fired a broken stick towards Panarin (who was carrying the puck up ice) and nothing there either. Thats the kind of shit that pisses me off. I didn't like the Kreider penalty call (Jarvis turned into that) but Trouba just leveled him 2 seconds later and that one could have probably been called.

Rempe penalty was BS. They have to get into the league's ear about this shit because its becoming ridiculous. When he takes a penalty, fine call it but not everything he does is an infraction.

Not enough punishment given to Aho (LOL at him whining about Svechnikov's penalty in the last minute, like sorry they didn't let you get away with another egregious instance of obstruction) but they roughed up Jarvis and Grundle quite a bit.

Rempe is going to truck Tony D into the KHL portion of his career at some point in this series. Just seems inevitable and he'll probably get called for that too.

So 2 posts hit, Fox having an off game, out PP'd 5-2 and still coming away with a win?

Canes with a massive missed opportunity here. Not that they deserved to win (they didn't), but this was a winnable game for them despite that. They had the puck luck, the officials in their corner and some real rust from several key players on the NYR side. Perhaps those things hold for them in this series but I doubt all 3 will continue to go in their favor.

You can't sit back and let this team just volume away though. Bounces and breakdowns happen and going into a shell is only going to increase the chances that they're able to cash in on these things (which is what the 3rd goal against was.)

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Ranger haters want to point at the TOA as the indicator that Canes deserved better, but that doesn't tell the tale of Canes getting more pps and Rangers sitting on a 2 goal lead after the 1st.

Right. It also doesn't matter if they are kept to the outside for most of that which they were. That's why the Canes are analytics darlings. The Rangers defended well and the only time things got dicey was the last 3 minutes when they pulled the goalie.

 

[Alluckks]

I'd really like to see Fox looking closer to 90% or better like he was near the end of the regular season. That's the biggest thing for me.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Went through and watched most of what I missed.

Canes got away with a loooottt of stuff. High stick on Trocheck is a black and white call that was clearly missed. DeAngelo fired a broken stick towards Panarin (who was carrying the puck up ice) and nothing there either. Thats the kind of shit that pisses me off. I didn't like the Kreider penalty call (Jarvis turned into that) but Trouba just leveled him 2 seconds later and that one could have probably been called.

Rempe penalty was BS. They have to get into the league's ear about this shit because its becoming ridiculous. When he takes a penalty, fine call it but not everything he does is an infraction.

Not enough punishment given to Aho (LOL at him whining about Svechnikov's penalty in the last minute, like sorry they didn't let you get away with another egregious instance of obstruction) but they roughed up Jarvis and Grundle quite a bit.

Rempe is going to truck Tony D into the KHL portion of his career at some point in this series. Just seems inevitable and he'll probably get called for that too.

So 2 posts hit, Fox having an off game, out PP'd 5-2 and still coming away with a win?

Canes with a massive missed opportunity here. Not that they deserved to win (they didn't), but this was a winnable game for them despite that. They had the puck luck, the officials in their corner and some real rust from several key players on the NYR side. Perhaps those things hold for them in this series but I doubt all 3 will continue to go in their favor.

You can't sit back and let this team just volume away though. Bounces and breakdowns happen and going into a shell is only going to increase the chances that they're able to cash in on these things (which is what the 3rd goal against was.)

Yup. They are 5-0 this playoffs when turtling with the lead in the 3rd but It's going to eventually bite them in the ass against Carolina.

 

[Row I Goon]

But seriously - have given Mika a lot of shit this season but he came out blasting today

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Yup. They are 5-0 this playoffs when turtling with the lead in the 3rd but It's going to eventually bite them in the ass against Carolina.

I don't really think they turtled against Washington.

I thought that most of their efforts in this game were good until they scored the 4th goal. They basically just stopped trying to do anything other than just sit back and that isn't going to work here. The best way to deal with their attack is to not really allow them to even get started and they more or less did that to a tee for the first 50 minutes of this game. Even through 55 minutes of this game they had Carolina held to under 20 shots.

ST's have been f***ing masterful in these playoffs though. Officiating has had a pretty heavy slant in our opponents direction through 5 games and it hasn't mattered, they've won them all.

Maybe that continues but I'm sure there will be a game or 2 in this series where we get a few calls.