Mickey Gall def. CM Punk via RNC @ 2:14 at UFC 203
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Well, it looked very, very bad.
I just don't see someone at his age, especially in a division that's fairly quick having much success. I'd be very surprised if he doesn't get TKO'd or Subbed.
I don't think anyone would be too surprised at any result in fighting but him looking bad two months into training doesn't mean anything more than a year later.
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Pretty sure it is like that. He had done some things but not a legit training setup.
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I think they expected Punk to be pretty bad and don't really care about it. They can't wait for eternity until he becomes a good fighter, he's their (likely) one-time money booster and nothing more.
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Yes they would. He's getting paid big. He's a draw. He was signed specifically for PPV bouts. He will sell PPVs
Gall isn't some killer btw. He's basically 1-0 with a win on the regionals.
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Punk is obviously a huge draw for UFC, especially since he's still making use of his WWE name (I know, he still holds the trademark but....come on. It'll forever be linked to the WWE now), instead of Phil Brooks.
Dana's UFC 203 card doesn't look nearly as lucrative with Phil Brooks on there. Gotta go with the big name, so CM Punk it is.
Dana's UFC 203 card doesn't look nearly as lucrative with Phil Brooks on there. Gotta go with the big name, so CM Punk it is.
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Punk is obviously a huge draw for UFC, especially since he's still making use of his WWE name (I know, he still holds the trademark but....come on. It'll forever be linked to the WWE now), instead of Phil Brooks.
Dana's UFC 203 card doesn't look nearly as lucrative with Phil Brooks on there. Gotta go with the big name, so CM Punk it is.
CM Punk was his long before he went to WWE and it will be long after, as well it should be.
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I don't think UFC is in the business to have people go in and potentially literally get killed by a KO punch they don't know how to block properly but yeah i guess guys, it's all about the money, **** the mans health 
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Fail.
My MMA friends were asking who that CM Punk guy was the entire UFC 202. They just couldn't believe he wasn't some accomplished wrestler like Lesnar, it was hilarious. "No, you mean he's mostly an actor? Damn".
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No doubt, but WWE put him on the map.
Unless you're a hardcore indy or ROH mark, I reckon most people didn't know who he was before he made his WWE debut. I wouldn't put him on the same level as an AJ Styles, for example, who'd been around long enough to garner more attention prior to jumping over, than Punk ever did.
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I don't agree WWE put Punk on the map at all.
You didn't have to be a hardcore indy or ROH mark, you just had to be someone who wasn't fully in the WWE bubble. Punk had a huge following pre WWE.
WWE didn't put Punk on the map, they merely exposed Punk to the people who don't pay attention to anything but what they produce. AJ obviously had a very sustained period of time in TNA which exposed him to people you're right, but still WWE far from put Punk on the map. They didn't even understand what they had in Punk for a long time.
With the program he had threatening to take the ROH title to WWE etc, they could have built on that from the get go and embraced him, instead he ended up in Ohio, going through ECW etc. Would have been interesting had he made the jump now, I feel like they would have embraced him much more quickly. But perhaps at the same time we have Punk in part to thank for that.
I dunno I'm just not interested in giving them any credit for the fact that eventually they realised what a great talent they had sitting there, I'm certainly not going to coin it his "WWE name" for that. That name is all his, WWE doesn't deserve jack from it.
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I don't think UFC is in the business to have people go in and potentially literally get killed by a KO punch they don't know how to block properly but yeah i guess guys, it's all about the money, **** the mans health
Do a little bit of research. It's not hard.
Mickey Gall isn't some stud. He may be young but that's about it. His first fight he fought some dude making his pro debut with a 2-2 amateur record. He submitted him. His next fight, int he UFC he fought some guy off the street. Mike Jackson is a guy that trains for fun. He had one amateur fight, which was in 2009, in which he lost.
CM Punk's been training full-time for two years.. at a big-ish camp and has some prior experience. Mickey Gall isn't some killer and is extremely raw. He's not going to kill anybody in the cage with a punch. He comes from the Miller camp. He's a submission guy. Mickey IMO wins, but this is some fair regional level fight that just so happens to be on a UFC main card.
There's been far worse match-ups in which guys have been set up to be destroyed. Strikeforce used to have insane matchmaking.
I don't think UFC is in the business to have people go in and potentially literally get killed by a KO punch they don't know how to block properly but yeah i guess guys, it's all about the money, **** the mans health
It is all about the money. They signed CM Punk because of his name value, not because of any skill he might have. Same reason they signed Lesnar after just one MMA fight and gave him a title shot with a 1-1 UFC record (although Lesnar did have some more credibility than Punk does). MMA is a star driven sport.
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Yes and no.
Heavyweight is the least talented division. Brock Lesnar had a legit wrestling background, athletic as hell which goes a long way in this division, and had a win at least.
Title shot was undeserved though Nog vs Mir was booked for the interm and had filmed TUF. Randy came out of his contract walkout, and really the only guy was Brock I suppose. Or at least the only guy Randy would come out for.
The UFC is looking for stars/draws though. See this Sage Northcott thing. Dude is a regional level fighter that they're trying to build up.
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Or you jut use a little common sense and see one guy was actually groomed for MMA and another is an aging adult who is transitioning from wrestling to MMA and you can see that its already a bad matchup. That and the fact that punk had to learn from scratch in between having surgery. So no, they woldn't just put him in there for the money if it meant he would get absolutely destroyed. How dumb do you think the UFC is?
Signing someone because they are a big name and then throwing them into a ring with an absolute garbage skill set just to get killed all for PPV buys, is two completely different things and makes zero sense.
I'm sure they don't care if their big name star gets killed or not in his first fight out of what, the 6 that he signed up for? Getting killed in the first one wouldn't devalue him at all and cost them money in the long term, right?
So why did UFC sign him? Did they see something in just his training and no actual matches that led them to believe he could be a good fighter?
