Michkov and Yakemchuck vs. Demidov and Reinbacher

[Gil Gunderson]

Why is it always only on MTL for passing on Michkov? He went 7th.

We're all going to find out how good Michkov is next year, we'll have to wait a bit for the others.

As a Habs fan I'm pretty happy with how things turned out.

Weren’t Montreal and Philly the only top 7 teams he spoke to and wanted to play for? I think that’s why. Everybody knew he didn’t want to go to Arizona.

 

[Sam de Mtl]

I don't know how generational Michkov can be despite all of his flaws...

 

[hamzarocks]

I have a feeling people are seriously not realizing what a player Michkov is, as he’s not playing internationally and barely anyone watches KHL.

His trajectory is currently better than Kucherov, Kaprizov, Panarin.

He was nearly a PPG player in the second best league in the world on one of the worst teams with little support.

Demidov is yet to compete against adults

kucherov is a few more crazy seasons like this from passing a bunch of all timers

1 more ross + hart&lindsay year he has pretty much set himself as top 20-25 all time

As we saw with bedard, its basically a 0% chance he (mitchkov) in this scenerio outproduces a player he was better than pre-nhl (bedard being better than Mcdavid his draft year vs mitchkov vs kucherov)

 

[ViD]

kucherov is a few more crazy seasons like this from passing a bunch of all timers

1 more ross + hart&lindsay year he has pretty much set himself as top 20-25 all time

As we saw with bedard, its basically a 0% chance he (mitchkov) in this scenerio outproduces a player he was better than pre-nhl (bedard being better than Mcdavid his draft year vs mitchkov vs kucherov)

Pretty sure Michkov will easily out produce Kucherov’s rookie season

 

[albator71]

Yakemchuck has all the tools to be a stud I would take him before Reinbacher.

 

[ricky0034]

how did Michkov become so underrated around here?

he didn't used to be a year ago

 

[BLNY]

Because the Canadiens have Reinbacher and Demidov, but had they taken the Russian winger last year and the RD this year, they could have had Michkov and Yakemchuk, so OP is asking which duo would be better for the Canadiens to have. Philadelphia has nothing to do with it.

Fair enough. I don't deal in what ifs. HuGo made the right decision with Slaf over Wright. They made a decision that Michkov wasn't the right fit. Excluding The Blackhawks, so did 4 other teams. I'm not a big fan of people who are that cagey about doing interviews. Where are the threads about Anaheim, Columbus, and San Jose?

Demidov is a fantastic prospect. People are underselling how good Reinbacher is because his D+1 year production was impacted by being on an absolutely terrible team. He came over to Laval, settled in quickly, and looked really solid. He'll be in Montreal before the end of the season. He's played pro hockey for two years.

 

[Artaud]

Yakemchuck has all the tools to be a stud I would take him before Reinbacher.

I think he's the real wildcard here. I feel like with Reinbacher, we have a good idea of what he's going to be. A steady minute muncher. Yakemchuck has more of that boom or bust profile.

 

[albator71]

I think he's the real wildcard here. I feel like with Reinbacher, we have a good idea of what he's going to be. A steady minute muncher. Yakemchuck has more of that boom or bust profile.

Yes but Yak has been putting big numbers on a bad Calgary team, he's been doing it all on the back end playing in all situations, so it will interesting too see how he will develop in the next few years. But I really like Yak imo he's ceiling is higher then Reinbacher.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Michkov is the clear best player, but Demidov is also an elite game breaking talent

Reinbacher is a safer pick (sure fire top pairing D) than Yakemchuk but Yak has a higher ceiling (elite #1)

I take the Habs pair as they are two guaranteed high end NHLers

 

[Hisch13r]

Demidov>Michkov
Reinbacher>Yakemchuk

This could be a conversation if we’re talking about one of the best D in the draft. Not Yakemchuk

 

[Nabrules]

Why is it Yakemchuk though? Montreal had their choice of any dman and it’s widely known it would’ve been buium

 

[Sting]

Michkov is the clear best player, but Demidov is also an elite game breaking talent

Reinbacher is a safer pick (sure fire top pairing D) than Yakemchuk but Yak has a higher ceiling (elite #1)

I take the Habs pair as they are two guaranteed high end NHLers

Absolutely nothing is guaranteed. Not only is it very difficult to make the NHL it's also much harder to become elite. The vast majority of drafted players never come close to elite.

 

[Erika]

Why is it Yakemchuk though? Montreal had their choice of any dman and it’s widely known it would’ve been buium

Because he was the first RH defenceman available. It's between him and Zayne Parekh. Buium is no where an option as he's a LH defenceman and the habs needed a RH to compliment Kaiden Guhle or Lane Hutson on the first pair. You got to look at team needs in this particular circumstances.

 

[Kennerback]

I think it still comes down to who you prefer between Michkov and Demidov. In trades, winner is usually the one who ends up with the better player.

 

[Erika]

Because the Canadiens have Reinbacher and Demidov, but had they taken the Russian winger last year and the RD this year, they could have had Michkov and Yakemchuk, so OP is asking which duo would be better for the Canadiens to have. Philadelphia has nothing to do with it.

Yeah Exactly.
The top RH available defenceman is key and non negotiable in this situation if you really want to make a fair comparaison. It has to be one of Yakemchuk or Parekh.

Dickenson, Buium, Silayev are out of the equation because they are all LH.

 

[Gert B Frobe]

Demidov>Michkov
Reinbacher>Yakemchuk

This could be a conversation if we’re talking about one of the best D in the draft. Not Yakemchuk

This might not age well....

 

[NyQuil]

80 to 80.

 

[JiricekSaveUs]

Suprised this is close. Even if you think Yak and Rienbacher are similar prospects, hard for me to take Demidov over Michkov given he’s already been a stud in the NHL.

 

[Barsky]

Suprised this is close. Even if you think Yak and Rienbacher are similar prospects, hard for me to take Demidov over Michkov given he’s already been a stud in the NHL.

Never be surprised about what homers Habs fans are

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

Demidov>Michkov
Reinbacher>Yakemchuk

This could be a conversation if we’re talking about one of the best D in the draft. Not Yakemchuk

Absolutely comical take.

 

[biturbo19]

What Michkov is doing in the NHL early is solid and impressive, but i do still think Demidov could be the better player in the long run. And Yakemchuck is showing a big positive trend while Reinbacher's development has been a little screwy. But i think i'd still stick with the duo that the Habs actually picked. Bigger players that play a heavier game. And since most of these guys aren't even at the NHL level yet, i'll stick more with my sort of "draft day" evaluations and projections. Even if Michkov proving he's a capable NHL scorer already, is the much "safer" bet here.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Suprised this is close. Even if you think Yak and Rienbacher are similar prospects, hard for me to take Demidov over Michkov given he’s already been a stud in the NHL.

Never be surprised about what homers Habs fans are

It's not all homer fans...alot of people like Demidovs play driving over Michkovs iQ. It's not like Demi is gonna be a bum , this is from a guy who prefers Michkov to Demidov and curses us for passing on him.

Also people outside of MTL liked Reinbacher as a prospect and would have taken him over Yam at the time of that draft. His stock has plummeted because he got hurt but the poll wasn't made yesterday either. If anything most Montreal fans are low and were low on Rein more than actual scouts.

You can't call out people for their takes on a poll like this as if they are all idiots when 3 of the 4 guys aren't even playing in the league yet. I really don't think its homers propelling this poll

 

[Barsky]

It's not all homer fans...alot of people like Demidovs play driving over Michkovs iQ. It's not like Demi is gonna be a bum , this is from a guy who prefers Michkov to Demidov and curses us for passing on him.

Also people outside of MTL liked Reinbacher as a prospect and would have taken him over Yam at the time of that draft. His stock has plummeted because he got hurt but the poll wasn't made yesterday either. If anything most Montreal fans are low and were low on Rein more than actual scouts.

You can't call out people for their takes on a poll like this as if they are all idiots when 3 of the 4 guys aren't even playing in the league yet. I really don't think its homers propelling this poll

No not all, but Demidov has proven nothing at the NHL, nor have the two D, so it's proven NHL budding star, vs nothing and one unproven defensive d-man who has failed to crack an NHL roster in 2 chances, vs one who has failed to in his first chance. Easy win for Mich and you are probably right to curse Hughes for not taking him

 

[Bileur]

Probably Michkov Yak on the strength of Michkov and Reinbacher’s lost development time.

The correct answer is Michkov+Demidov with no D though.