Proposal: Michael Stone to Ottawa

[Sens Vader]

I dont watch him play much so I may be way off in value, but:

Chris Wideman + Matt Puempel + 4th round pick

would like to see him come play with his bro

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[dgeezus]

Change the 4th pick round for the 1st.

 

[Sureves]

We just don't need him. Your offer however has 0 pieces of any value.

 

[Sens Vader]

We just don't need him. Your offer however has 0 pieces of any value.

laughable

maybe not Stone value, but there is value in that package

 

[Pyrophorus]

Schenn is not knocking anyone out.

 

[Saabman0508]

laughable

It's kind of true though. Wideman had a decent showing last year, but I doubt he becomes more than a bottom pairing defender. Maybe he has an outside chance as a number 4 guy, but that's a pretty big maybe, and that pretty big maybe doesn't add any value to him. Puempel on the other hand is a first rounder from 5 years ago who has yet to show he can crack the NHL and make a difference. He still has promise, but after being given a few chances and not being able to translate AHL success to the NHL, it's gotten to the point where he needs to show what he can do. Many have soured on him and I doubt he has much value around the league. The 4th is a 4th, not much more to say about that. Stone on the other hand put up solid numbers last year, is a young, top 4 guy on a great contract. I don't know Arizona's needs, but I find it unlikely that this package appeals to them in any way.

Edit: Apologies, for some reason I thought Stone recently signed an extension. He's an RFA in 16-17, but I can't see the Coyotes not signing him to an extension, or at least getting better value for him than what you proposed.

 

[Benjamin]

Change the 4th pick round for the 1st.

But then it sucks for the Sens.

 

[Sureves]

It's kind of true though. Wideman had a decent showing last year, but I doubt he becomes more than a bottom pairing defender. Maybe he has an outside chance as a number 4 guy, but that's a pretty big maybe, and that pretty big maybe doesn't add any value to him. Puempel on the other hand is a first rounder from 5 years ago who has yet to show he can crack the NHL and make a difference. He still has promise, but after being given a few chances and not being able to translate AHL success to the NHL, it's gotten to the point where he needs to show what he can do. Many have soured on him and I doubt he has much value around the league. The 4th is a 4th, not much more to say about that. Stone on the other hand put up solid numbers last year, is a young, top 4 guy on a great contract. I don't know Arizona's needs, but I find it unlikely that this package appeals to them in any way.

Edit: Apologies, for some reason I thought Stone recently signed an extension. He's an RFA in 16-17, but I can't see the Coyotes not signing him to an extension, or at least getting better value for him than what you proposed.

Excellent post and saved me from replying to him, thank you.

 

[Real Smart Sens Fan]

laughable

maybe not Stone value, but there is value in that package

That package would return a mid to low 2nd and a 5th, if we're lucky.

Realistically, I see us offering no more than Lazar + Borowiecki/Wideman + 3rd, which is definitely not enough - but, given the fact that we would likely lose Stone the next year, it's the most we could give.

Essentially, we are giving up Lazar + Borowiecki/Wideman + 3rd to ensure that we enter 2017-2018 with Karlsson, Ceci, Phaneuf and Stone OR Methot. Reasonable value for us, but not enough that AZ would do it.

 

[WrinkledPossum]

Coyotes don't need scraps. An upgrade on D from Stone or no deal.

 

[crowi]

laughable

maybe not Stone value, but there is value in that package

Where is this value you speak of?

It's not surprising how you spam laugh-emoticons and call this laughable.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Doing this before the expansion draft is a bad idea.

 

[rt]

That's a dog crap offer. Terrible for Arizona.

 

[LeafChief]

Michael Stone is actually pretty good.

That is not a good offer.

 

[Altimus]

We would just lose him in expansion.

 

[DesertDawg]

Why would the Sens trade for Stone, when they already have Karlsson and Ceci? And why do HFers insist on trading for injured players? Let's see how a player responds to ice time after surgery...

 

[Boud]

Sorry Ari fans... That is a terrible offer indeed.

 

[SpezDispenser]

laughable

maybe not Stone value, but there is value in that package

I won't lie, I don't like the value of that package at all. Maybe for a veteran 5th D, but...

 

[go4hockey]

laughable

maybe not Stone value, but there is value in that package

There is very little value in that offer. As for Stone that offer is total junk for the player your asking for. Maybe before you come on with offers for said player you take some time and watch the player your wanting to trade for.

 

[topshelf15]

Come on No way Dorion doesnt get the profanity laced hangup,after that offer .Sorry Yotes

 

[AZviaNJ]

Michael Stone + 3rd for Lazar

 

[Sens Vader]

There is very little value in that offer. As for Stone that offer is total junk for the player your asking for. Maybe before you come on with offers for said player you take some time and watch the player your wanting to trade for.

I said I don't watch him play, and I was careful to phrase it that way.

Im not gonna dig up video in fear of some poster saying my proposal is ****, I dont care if it was **** hahaha thats why i asked in the first place

 

[Sens Vader]

Where is this value you speak of?

It's not surprising how you spam laugh-emoticons and call this laughable.

these assets dont have 0 value, which is what I was laughing at.

 

[Sens Vader]

That package would return a mid to low 2nd and a 5th, if we're lucky.

Realistically, I see us offering no more than Lazar + Borowiecki/Wideman + 3rd, which is definitely not enough - but, given the fact that we would likely lose Stone the next year, it's the most we could give.

Essentially, we are giving up Lazar + Borowiecki/Wideman + 3rd to ensure that we enter 2017-2018 with Karlsson, Ceci, Phaneuf and Stone OR Methot. Reasonable value for us, but not enough that AZ would do it.

Michael Stone + 3rd for Lazar

progress on a proposal board. Amazing.

 

[AZviaNJ]

progress on a proposal board. Amazing.

added AZ 3rd is due to Stone injury.