Value of: Michael Stone to EDM @ Deadline

[duul]

What would it take for Arizona to deal this guy? Oilers need a RHD with offensive capability.

1st round pick + ???

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[rockinghockey]

No way I give a 1st round pick

 

[edguy]

Edmontons in no position to move their first round pick for a 2nd pair guy..

 

[Connor]

Edmontons in no position to move their first round pick for a 2nd pair guy..

More than that, I think Oilers are not in a position to sell their future for present any time this season.

 

[McWeber]

I will trade away picks for good young players without hesitation. The hope is that we make the playoffs so the pick isn't as valuable anyways. The Hawks and Pens have been restocking the farm with free agent signings and later picks and doing fine in spite of it after acquiring their elite talent.

 

[duul]

Any Arizona fans wish to chime in?

 

[hbk]

Any Arizona fans wish to chime in?

Stone is potentially available; however, AZ is one of those teams which may elect to go with the any 8 skaters option to protect more than 3 D meaning if they can extend Stone they could protect him fairly easily in expansion draft.

Everything depend on contract and whether AZ wants to pay up.

You are probably looking at an asking price of a pick in that 20-45 range and preferably a D or G prospect.

 

[Roof Daddy]

While I do hope the Oil are still in a position to be aggressive at the trade deadline, and I feel this draft is pretty mediocre, I don't know that the Oil should move their 1st. There are a decent amount of RHD prospects in this draft and I don't think our prospect pool is very good.

Stone would definitely be a decent target, but I'm not convinced he'd even be available. Undoubtedly we need a RH shot from the point for the PP - and Stone has a heavy shot - but I don't know what the price would be and whether it would make sense.

Not a bad idea, I'd like to hear from more Yotes fans as well.

 

[rt]

Any Arizona fans wish to chime in?

If the Coyotes continue to lose more games than they win, and Connor Murphy continues his impressive improvement arch, and Kyle Wood and Anthony DeAngelo continue to light up the AHL than I can definitely see the Coyotes having some interest in trading Stone at the deadline.

To what team and for what price? That's tough to say. If the Oilers continue to win more games than they lose and are willing to move their 1st round pick in a deal for Stone than I'm sure they'd be right in the running for his services.

 

[Barness01]

Stone is potentially available; however, AZ is one of those teams which may elect to go with the any 8 skaters option to protect more than 3 D meaning if they can extend Stone they could protect him fairly easily in expansion draft.

Everything depend on contract and whether AZ wants to pay up.

You are probably looking at an asking price of a pick in that 20-45 range and preferably a D or G prospect.

If the Oilers are in contention, I'd offer a 2nd + 3rd + Caleb Jones For Stone+ 4th

But Is stone the kind of guy that can run our power play? Cause that is the biggest need if we are giving up assets for a D. Otherwise we are perfectly fine(so far) running Sekera-Russel on our second pair.

 

[Paradise*]

Talk about jumping the gun

Give it a few more months before thinking of a trade like this

 

[SupremeTeam16]

I like the idea of this but I think Oilers first is a little rich for Stoner as a rental. That pic is going to be 10-20 range, maybe if AZ took Fayne as well.


Can Coyotes fans comment on Stones offensive abilities, can he run a PP, how's his shot? How good is he at moving the puck?

 

[Mcnotloilersfan]

I dont think Edmonton should go crazy with trade deadline buying this season. Nothing more than some depth pickups for 3rds or 4ths. There is a good chance Edmonton makes the playoffs this year, but this needs to be the year they learn how to fail in the playoffs.

Next season, after the expansion draft is behind us and Edmonton has completed the puzzle, they can go all out at the trade deadline if needed!

I can't see any 1sts being moved this year for rentals. Most teams who acquire a rental hope to resign the guy that summer on a discount if he loves his new setting. Why spend a 1st on another player you'll have to protect?

 

[BurgoShark]

I like the idea of this but I think Oilers first is a little rich for Stoner as a rental. That pic is going to be 10-20 range, maybe if AZ took Fayne as well.


Can Coyotes fans comment on Stones offensive abilities, can he run a PP, how's his shot? How good is he at moving the puck?

I'm not an Arizona fan but have watched Stone a bit ... he has never been required to run a PP because they have always had Yandle/OEL as their offensive gun. I believe Stone is a good supporting 2 way guy. The Coyote's home commentators talk him up, and say that he is a very good partner for OEL and he can make smart offensive plays. He does play the PP but you wouldn't say he "runs it".

He is definitely a top 4 defenseman, but some might argue that he is similar to someone like Marc Methot (not in style - just situation) in that he plays top minutes because of his chemistry with the #1 guy rather than because he is the 2nd best defenseman on the team.

I also think that the fact he is right-handed makes him a little more valuable on the trade/UFA market than some alternatives ... and if Arizona are going to trade him away you would think they hold on to him as long as possible to maximize that return. A 1st round pick at the deadline from a top 10 team looking to make a push would not be an unreasonable expectation.

 

[AZviaNJ]

I'm not an Arizona fan but have watched Stone a bit ... he has never been required to run a PP because they have always had Yandle/OEL as their offensive gun. I believe Stone is a good supporting 2 way guy. The Coyote's home commentators talk him up, and say that he is a very good partner for OEL and he can make smart offensive plays. He does play the PP but you wouldn't say he "runs it".

He is definitely a top 4 defenseman, but some might argue that he is similar to someone like Marc Methot (not in style - just situation) in that he plays top minutes because of his chemistry with the #1 guy rather than because he is the 2nd best defenseman on the team.

I also think that the fact he is right-handed makes him a little more valuable on the trade/UFA market than some alternatives ... and if Arizona are going to trade him away you would think they hold on to him as long as possible to maximize that return. A 1st round pick at the deadline from a top 10 team looking to make a push would not be an unreasonable expectation.

Stone hasn't been OEL's partner since early last year, they were a terrible match. Neither McConnell, Nash, Heater or Boynton (Coyotes TV and Radio announcers) have made reference to Stone being a good partner for OEL, so not sure where you've heard that. Murphy on the other hand took over the OEL partner slot after Stone and has done well in that role.

Stone right now is the AZ 5th best Dman (OEL, Goligoski, Murphy and Chychrun).

Realistically, Stone is a solid 3rd pair Dman, only second pair by necessity.

All that said, Coyotes would likely welcome a 1st or high prospect for him at the deadline.

 

[Mc5RingsAndABeer]

The expansion draft kinda throws a wrench into this.

 

[BurgoShark]

Stone hasn't been OEL's partner since early last year, they were a terrible match. Neither McConnell, Nash, Heater or Boynton (Coyotes TV and Radio announcers) have made reference to Stone being a good partner for OEL, so not sure where you've heard that. Murphy on the other hand took over the OEL partner slot after Stone and has done well in that role.

Stone right now is the AZ 5th best Dman (OEL, Goligoski, Murphy and Chychrun).

Realistically, Stone is a solid 3rd pair Dman, only second pair by necessity.

All that said, Coyotes would likely welcome a 1st or high prospect for him at the deadline.

Maybe I was watching National broadcasts then. I have definitely heard them talk about this when they were on the ice together - even when they were't an actual "pair".

 

[Jumptheshark]

What would it take for Arizona to deal this guy? Oilers need a RHD with offensive capability.

1st round pick + ???

Oilers don't give up a first let alone add to it. Stone is not worth
A first

 

[McSuper]

If the Oilers are in contention, I'd offer a 2nd + 3rd + Caleb Jones For Stone+ 4th

But Is stone the kind of guy that can run our power play? Cause that is the biggest need if we are giving up assets for a D. Otherwise we are perfectly fine(so far) running Sekera-Russel on our second pair.

We don't have a 2nd rd pick . It has to go to Boston we delayed it as long as we can outside of a RFA offer . If we made a RFA offer it can be pushed one more year outside of that it is time to pay the piper

 

[ManofSteel55]

We need a #1 guy. Stone is good, but is a second pair guy and we have 3 of those signed through next season. Find a top pair defenseman and I'm fine with trading our first. But not for another 2nd rounder.

 

[57special]

A first pairing Dman is worth a lot more than a mid 1st, unless there are age, contract, or injury issues.

 

[cobra427]

Stone hasn't been OEL's partner since early last year, they were a terrible match. Neither McConnell, Nash, Heater or Boynton (Coyotes TV and Radio announcers) have made reference to Stone being a good partner for OEL, so not sure where you've heard that. Murphy on the other hand took over the OEL partner slot after Stone and has done well in that role.

Stone right now is the AZ 5th best Dman (OEL, Goligoski, Murphy and Chychrun).

Realistically, Stone is a solid 3rd pair Dman, only second pair by necessity.

All that said, Coyotes would likely welcome a 1st or high prospect for him at the deadline.

Stone is a solid second pairing D man with some decent production. He will get at least a first as a rental at the TDL from somebody.

 

[rt]

Stone has a booming shot and can score goals with it. He also has a solid physical element to his game and actully plays his size and throws hits. Plus he's pretty good defensively. If he's your best or second best D, than your team is in trouble. If he's your third or fourth best, you've got a good blueline started.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Stone has a booming shot and can score goals with it. He also has a solid physical element to his game and actully plays his size and throws hits. Plus he's pretty good defensively. If he's your best or second best D, than your team is in trouble. If he's your third or fourth best, you've got a good blueline started.

This may be true but the problem in this deal doesn't lie in what Stone can and can't do, it lies in our needs. If we bring in Stone, we either have at least one guy playing above where they should next year, or are playing (and paying) a 2nd pair guy to play third pair minutes. Neither are ideal. I like Stone well enough, but he isn't a need.

 

[thadd]

It's weird. TSN is making it draft sound like the weakest in the past 5-10 years, but 1st rounders will still have huge value because their expansion exempt assets.