GDT: Merged GAME 17 | Sens Rally in Raleigh | Sat Nov 16 2024, 7PM | SN1, TVAS 2

[Blotto71]

Did they show that on a replay somewhere?

I didn't see that

It was on the pk. The pk never should have happened because the Pinto call was nonsense

The too many men call was complete bullshit. SOA is correct, 2 came on as 1 came off through 1 door, all while 1 was going off through the other door. Not even remotely close to a tmm call.

I saw one go off one door and one off the other door and you could only see 4 sens on the ice... I mean I guess I could be mistaken but I want to see a replay because I think I saw it right. Its possible that there was someone way late because he was not on the screen on the replay I saw

You are not mistaken. There was a replay that showed it very clearly, 2 for 2.

 

[Blotto71]

Looks like Green chose to keep it civil, post game. Hope Staios makes a stink, and maybe Andleauer. Nobody should sit back and accept such egregiously poor officiating. Just a terrible display, Brenk and Markovic were horrible.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Nothing wrong with our second period today. We played boring hockey and smothered eachother until we broke them down and scored to tie it

 

[Burrowsaurus]

The too many men call was complete bullshit. SOA is correct, 2 came on as 1 came off through 1 door, all while 1 was going off through the other door. Not even remotely close to a tmm call.


You are not mistaken. There was a replay that showed it very clearly, 2 for 2.

Tkatchuk was in the corner. He hasn’t come off yet

 

[Knave]

One last remaining thought - the play is whistled dead by the referee on the Pinto penalty at 2:43.

The most optimistic interpretation of Carolina's first PP goal is they score at 42 seconds on the dot.

Just to make it clear what a shitshow that crew was. The NHL will sell this as referees calling a tight game. They let the clock run long on the Pinto whistle and didn't adjust on the initial call and then with less than 42 seconds left decided to give the benefit of the doubt to Carolina by saying the first PP goal was scored while still on the first penalty despite officially calling the penalty on Pinto with at minimum 2:42 left in the period.

The entire crew needs to be fired. It's completely unacceptable. Coincidentally in a ~15 minute span in the second period that many questionable decisions go against one team? It beggars belief.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

 

[Gil Gunderson]

They played decent 5 on 5 but “running into a hot goalie” doesn’t cut it anymore. It didn’t cut it in November 2022 when that was constantly the story either.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

And the next 4 games are gonna be really, really hard to get any points out of. f***

At least the Red Wings lost, who can perpetually eat shit.

Edmonton and Vegas are both on back-to-backs for them, with Edmonton traveling and playing their 3rd game in 4 nights. After we play Vancouver and Calgary. The rest of the schedule until the new year is relatively “easy”.

All these 4 upcoming games are winnable if they can actually finish on their chances. There’s really no excuse to not go at least 2-1-1 down this stretch.

 

[Tuna99]

Sens slowly stealing the potential 24/25 hockey joy from my life with every shift they play

Sens should take my idea to see season tickets without November games seriously

 

[Big Muddy]

Didnt expect a win, didnt get one..... refs are horrid but Carolina is a tier above...

Yep. There were some bad calls, but I don’t think we can blame everything and the outcome on them. Canes forecheck hemmed us in a big chunk of the 1st period. Maybe if we had scored some goals in the first & second period (and in the first half of the 3rd), we could say that. But, we got zero goals the entire game. Canes are a good team. They give very little time and space to their opponents.

 

[BigRig4]

Sens slowly stealing the potential 24/25 hockey joy from my life with every shift they play

Sens should take my idea to see season tickets without November games seriously

At least they’re finding new and creative ways to disappoint!

 

[Senscore]

Yeah still very not cool with all of this

 

[Icelevel]

This just isn't true at all, making up statistics doesn't make your case stronger.

What are the stats for us this year when we pull the goalie?
We can go further back too.

 

[Tuna99]

At least they’re finding new and creative ways to disappoint!

And to hear from HNIC, our national broadcast with only 3 eastern teams in the 7pm time slot to cover and they can’t even do that without gaslighting the Ottawa fans at the - “Sens want us to talk about Them or they’ll get mad”

NFL covering two of the smallest markets they have in Buffalo and K.C. And the entire country is talking about it. Biggest thing happening in the USA this week.

Sucks being a Sens fan on Saturday night in this country

 

[robsenz]

As soon as I saw we were playing against some no name goalie and I knew the game was over. same story over and over.

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

And to hear from HNIC, our national broadcast with only 3 eastern teams in the 7pm time slot to cover and they can’t even do that without gaslighting the Ottawa fans at the - “Sens want us to talk about Them or they’ll get mad”

Did they actually say that verbatim?

 

[Tuna99]

Did they actually say that?

Yes

 

[darude]

Did they actually say that verbatim?

Yes

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

Yes

Yes

What the f*** lol.

Unprofessional sacks of shits.

 

[jbeck5]

And to hear from HNIC, our national broadcast with only 3 eastern teams in the 7pm time slot to cover and they can’t even do that without gaslighting the Ottawa fans at the - “Sens want us to talk about Them or they’ll get mad”

NFL covering two of the smallest markets they have in Buffalo and K.C. And the entire country is talking about it. Biggest thing happening in the USA this week.

Sucks being a Sens fan on Saturday night in this country

Thought that was very unprofessional. They should apologize...and then talk about us more.

 

[The Waffler]

Thought that was very unprofessional. They should apologize...and then talk about us more.

It’s a lose lose for them. If they don’t talk about the Sens, we’ll bitch. If they do we’ll call them morons.

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

It’s a lose lose for them. If they don’t talk about the Sens, we’ll bitch. If they do we’ll call them morons.

At least be courteous morons.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Yep. There were some bad calls, but I don’t think we can blame everything and the outcome on them. Canes forecheck hemmed us in a big chunk of the 1st period. Maybe if we had scored some goals in the first & second period (and in the first half of the 3rd), we could say that. But, we got zero goals the entire game. Canes are a good team. They give very little time and space to their opponents.

Well, technically we did score one goal. One that would've counted 99.99999999999% of the time.

 

[Blotto71]

I saw one go off one door and one off the other door and you could only see 4 sens on the ice... I mean I guess I could be mistaken but I want to see a replay because I think I saw it right. Its possible that there was someone way late because he was not on the screen on the replay I saw

Low res, sorry, but clearly 2 coming on with 2 at the bench going off - one at either end. There may have been another change following the play up ice, going to try to find that later, as you say.

EDIT: what this doesn't show is there are already 2 Sens at the defensive blue line, and Norris is off screen in the Carolina end. Legit TMM, but I won't change my opinion on the Stutzle or Pinto calls (and would argue that this TMM situation doesn't exist w/o the 5hitty call on Pinto).

 

[Big Muddy]

Well, technically we did score one goal. One that would've counted 99.99999999999% of the time.

Sure, but the one goal that did not count would not have produced in a Win either though.