Meltzer: WrestleMania Plans Aborted, WWE Will Scramble For New Ideas
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Emperoreddy
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They don't have any part-timers to work though. Rock won't be there. Austin is pretty adamant about not working. He will appear but ya...
Do they bring Sting out in his wheelchair and beg him to wrestle Taker and hope that draws?
Edit: The original plan for months it sounded like was Roman in the main event.
Do they bring Sting out in his wheelchair and beg him to wrestle Taker and hope that draws?
Edit: The original plan for months it sounded like was Roman in the main event.
Loosie
The Eternal Optimist
I wonder if they actually have their doctor clear DB now. DB wins the Rumble and then goes on to win again at WM.
Emperoreddy
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Unless the back up three money trucks at Punk's house, DB is pretty much the only needle mover they have.
[Austin match speculation reintensifies]
They want to stack the card? With what exactly? The best you can do at this point is one of Cena or Sting against Undertaker.
The Rock can't go, all but one of their major draws besides Cena is legitimately hurt, Owens maybe but i don't think he's quite there yet. Do you go all in on a NXT guy like Balor or maybe even Zayn when he returns? Do you try for the 600th time to drag Stone Cold or someone out of retirement? Do you put the gold on Triple H and drive the rest of your viewerbase away? The mind boggles.
They want to stack the card? With what exactly? The best you can do at this point is one of Cena or Sting against Undertaker.
The Rock can't go, all but one of their major draws besides Cena is legitimately hurt, Owens maybe but i don't think he's quite there yet. Do you go all in on a NXT guy like Balor or maybe even Zayn when he returns? Do you try for the 600th time to drag Stone Cold or someone out of retirement? Do you put the gold on Triple H and drive the rest of your viewerbase away? The mind boggles.
The only part-timer they'll get is Lesnar and Taker if you're not including HHH. Sting if he's healthy, I guess... *shrug*
The solution is to bring Bryan back. Vince needs to stop being a stubborn, old, out of touch man, put Bryan in there to win the Rumble and face Brock at Wrestlemania. I don't care if Brock continues his dominance and gets another win, I want to see that match. Bryan never lost the World Title, and after that, you can transition him into an IC Title feud, which he also never lost after Owens taunts him for losing to Brock.
Bryan vs. Lesnar
Reigns vs. HHH
Taker vs. Cena (is this still on the table?)
Wyatt vs. Sting (I guess if he works...)
JUST DO IT.
The solution is to bring Bryan back. Vince needs to stop being a stubborn, old, out of touch man, put Bryan in there to win the Rumble and face Brock at Wrestlemania. I don't care if Brock continues his dominance and gets another win, I want to see that match. Bryan never lost the World Title, and after that, you can transition him into an IC Title feud, which he also never lost after Owens taunts him for losing to Brock.
Bryan vs. Lesnar
Reigns vs. HHH
Taker vs. Cena (is this still on the table?)
Wyatt vs. Sting (I guess if he works...)
JUST DO IT.
Loosie
The Eternal Optimist
When is Zayn due back? If he's back soon maybe have him attack Owens after he successfully defends the IC title against Ambrose at TLC (Sorry Ambrose....really sorry, but Ambrose should also not be in the hunt for the IC title)
Have Owens/Zayn at Royal Rumble, Owens gets himself DQ'd or counted out. They are both involved in a match at Fast Lane (or whatever the February PPV is) but not a singles match for the title (maybe a tag of sorts). Zayn pins Owens. (alternatively they DO have a second match here for the IC title but getting DQd or counted out again, whatever they didn't do at RR)
Zayn/Owens at WM for the IC title again Zayn's 'last chance' but this time it's no DQ, no countout falls count anywhere where Zayn finally triumphs.
Zayn/Owens and DB/WWE Champ would be a good start to your top two matches.
That card sucks. They obviously aren't going to bring Bryan back, which is stupid beyond human comprehension. They should, but Vince will push Reigns over him. Wyatt is useless at this point and i've seen enough of current Sting. Cena/Taker would be monumental if Taker had the streak still. That would legit be main event level.
you have 100,000 seats to sell, Vince. You best think of something otherwise your cameras are going to have to work miracles to hide all those empty seats come April.
This is all WWE's fault too. This is what happens when you refuse to build new stars and all of your old ruthless aggression relics break down and the guys left aren't enough to fill the gap.
you have 100,000 seats to sell, Vince. You best think of something otherwise your cameras are going to have to work miracles to hide all those empty seats come April.
This is all WWE's fault too. This is what happens when you refuse to build new stars and all of your old ruthless aggression relics break down and the guys left aren't enough to fill the gap.
Speaking of DB, is the WWE doctor the only one who said he couldn't wrestle? Wasn't he going to a third doctor? I haven't kept up with the news on him.
Falco Lombardi
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Who knows. An NFL doctor cleared him and said his brain was above average. Some openly speculate (Meltzer, namely) that even if Bryan were cleared, no one would know and Vince may opt to keep him out so Wrestlemania plans would go his way and fans wouldn't hijack the shows again. So... yeah.
Zayn is due back soon, they ran vignette for him on NXT tonight.
The projected card is ****. Complete, utter ****. No wonder they need a complete overhaul. They have to fit Daniel Bryan in their plans, they can't intentionally keep him out. You have Orton, Rollins and Cesaro who will all miss the event. Stop being a stubborn old dick and do what's best for business.
Kimi
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Another thing to note with Bryan is that him being cleared by an external doctor is a legal issue. Down the line if he were to have problems, then it would open day on the WWE as they'd have gone against their own doctor's recommendations.
And Zayn is listed on the UK tour so he maybe he's showing up on the London show?
And Zayn is listed on the UK tour so he maybe he's showing up on the London show?
The Gongshow
Fire JBB
Bryan vs Lesnar(c) WHC Title
Cena vs Taker
Reigns vs Triple H (they have sort of planted seeds for this I guess)
Sami Zayn vs Kevin Owens(c) IC Title (They have to have Zayn up on the main roster when he comes back right? theres nothing left for him in NXT)
New Day(c) vs The Uso's vs The Dudleys TLC Tag Titles
Bray Wyatt vs Someone (I don't know who Bray faces next to be honest)
Cena vs Taker
Reigns vs Triple H (they have sort of planted seeds for this I guess)
Sami Zayn vs Kevin Owens(c) IC Title (They have to have Zayn up on the main roster when he comes back right? theres nothing left for him in NXT)
New Day(c) vs The Uso's vs The Dudleys TLC Tag Titles
Bray Wyatt vs Someone (I don't know who Bray faces next to be honest)
If they refuse to bring Bryan back, or he's not cleared, go all in with Bray Wyatt. He's way more talented than Roman Reigns, and the build to a Wyatt vs. Lesnar match would be sick. That might just be me, though. I've been very, very open and eager to see a Wyatt vs. Lesnar program on these boards before.
Wyatt/Lesnar
Reigns/HHH
Taker/Cena
Zayn/Owens (or Bryan/Owens if they do bring back Bryan but have him target the OTHER title he never lost)
Tag Titles
Multi-man US Title Ladder match (make this ladder match for one of the mid-card titles an annual thing or something, but give it a story rather than the hot potato stuff with the IC Title earlier this year)
It SHOULD be pretty clear at this point that it'll be Brock Lesnar going into Wrestlemania with the title and not Reigns. If it's Reigns, then I'm at a loss, because then I have no idea WHAT you do with Brock. You can't just have him target someone, he's above that. He's above everyone actually.
Wyatt/Lesnar
Reigns/HHH
Taker/Cena
Zayn/Owens (or Bryan/Owens if they do bring back Bryan but have him target the OTHER title he never lost)
Tag Titles
Multi-man US Title Ladder match (make this ladder match for one of the mid-card titles an annual thing or something, but give it a story rather than the hot potato stuff with the IC Title earlier this year)
It SHOULD be pretty clear at this point that it'll be Brock Lesnar going into Wrestlemania with the title and not Reigns. If it's Reigns, then I'm at a loss, because then I have no idea WHAT you do with Brock. You can't just have him target someone, he's above that. He's above everyone actually.
GindyDraws
#HutchOut
The really big problem with this event in particular is the seating. Yeah, WrestleMania alone sells, but to get people to legitimately break your own mythical seating record, you needed to have had a stacked card.
Granted, injuries have not helped them out, but they've also screwed up the few people they could use for WrestleMania season. The idea of Sheamus being the headliner is depressing, even with the fact that if we do get Bryan back, that means Vince would get his third Bryan/Sheamus match at WrestleMania... with the outcome he loves.
Granted, injuries have not helped them out, but they've also screwed up the few people they could use for WrestleMania season. The idea of Sheamus being the headliner is depressing, even with the fact that if we do get Bryan back, that means Vince would get his third Bryan/Sheamus match at WrestleMania... with the outcome he loves.
Emperoreddy
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Dudleys are kind of dead at this point. Unless they callup a tag team looking at New Day/Usos/Lucha Dragons.
I guess you could turn Sheamus and Rusev into an actual tag team after Brock suplexes the title off of him.
Also need to have Sasha vs Charlotte or Becky for the Title.
Get Dean involved in a US Title program. Guy needs a belt on him.
Other then that this has to be the card.
It has to be DB vs Brock. It is the best and biggest main event they can do with the healthy wrestlers they have. It is literally the only thing they can do to get eyeballs back.
Brock wins the title at RR, Bryan wins the rumble. David vs Goliath and go. DB doesn't even have to actually win that match, but he needs to be in it. Let Heyman just rip DB to shreds for weeks and BOOM storyline. God this is so damn easy it isn't even funny.
They have to get Zayn up as fast as possible to give someone legit for KO to feud with and get really over as a heel. He is languishing in mid-card tweener land. He desperately needs a rival to get really established.
Cena/Taker like it or not is the biggest draw they can do with those two. Tease it as a possible retirement match. Taker doesn't have to actually retire but if you tease it, you can add intrigue and interest.
Taker wants to do another year, then you tease Taker/Sting on the following Raw and have both end it at WM33.
Emperoreddy
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Thats the problem with Brock. He really is above everyone and they haven't properly built anyone to match him. They WANT Roman to do it, but it would be the biggest mistake ever to have Roman win the Rumble again and do Roman/Brock II.
Brock has to go over or you pretty much killed the company, and I'm dead serious in that feeling if that is the main event.
I'm with you though. If DB can wrestle you HAVE TO go DB/Brock. It is the biggest main event you can possibly do.
HHH/Roman makes the most sense for Roman, and you can build off that into Seth's feud with HHH and eventually a SHIELD triple thread and a reunion afterward, and if all done right Roman actually gets over naturally.
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Emperoreddy
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If 32 bombs I seriously would start to worry about the future of the company as a mainstream product.
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Maybe that wouldn't be the worst thing in the world? I mean last time the company ran the risk of going out of business the Attitude Era came out of it. (Might not be the best use of that comparison but still)
I just think Vince needs a big wake up call, and the only way the product is going to change is if his biggest Mania ever fails.
The Gongshow
Fire JBB
Figured it would be the Dudleys just because they were apart of TLC 1 and 2, they might try to recreate that for their biggest WM. I'd rather have They Wyatts in the match.
How could I forget Sasha!! They will most likely keep the belt on Charlotte until Mania, I say Sasha wins the belt at Mania.
Dean with the U.S would be good, at least he'd be doing something. Give him his own match tho, not a multi person match.
Emperoreddy
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I guess it depends how they book Cena's return feud with ADR.
If ADR keeps the belt then just have Dean feud with him. It's not the best thing in the world but you can get something out of it and get the belt on a better worker.
I think that might be best for Dean to just chill with a mid card belt for a bit and keep his heat and then when Seth comes back you can push him back up to finish up the shield storylines with the idea that all 3 come out looking stronger (and one should come out a heel at minimum)
Actually that could be a good story. Seth comes back a face. Shield seemingly reunites against Trips (Roman having feuded with him and the build of Seth feuding with him).
Turn Roman, Dean doesn't trust Seth. Seth is still cocky and not really a team player. Triple threat for the title at summer slam or mania depending on whether you slow burn it or not.
Not really. That's the whole point of having second and third opinions. They don't have liability if other doctors are saying otherwise. After he's cleared, whatever happens happens. It's not on the company unless it is something negligent which this process isn't. My 32 card is...
Bryan-Lesnar (title)
Sting-Taker (retirement match)
HHH-Reigns
Cena-Rusev (US Title rematch)***Rusev goes over and wins title back
Ambrose-KO (IC title)
I don't really care beyond that. New Day against anyone will be entertaining.
