Meier knee Necas

[tarheelhockey]

Why would Bratt fake a high sticking call while on the kill? That makes no sense to do in any regard lol

Again go back and watch it, the stick came nowhere near him. It looked to me like the contact came when Bratt tried to lean into Staal and Staal lowered his shoulder to protect the puck.

 

[My3Sons]

The league didn’t add any supplemental discipline so they must have concluded it was just incidental contact. These two teams won’t play again until the playoffs if they end up matched up at some point. It’s water under the bridge.

 

[onmygameboi]

I watched the Devils feed and Haula clearly pushes Orlov’s head into the boards, and Orlov had a gauze packed up each nostril afterwards. Stopping the bleeding. Also shown on the Devils feed. Hard to call that a “dive”. Orlov is chasing the puck, not putting himself into a bad position. Haula had no reason to hit him there like that other than Haula was being over aggressive, and after the Necas call the already aggressive Devils really put it into hyperdrive looking for contact. I’ll have to go back and watch but I don’t remember the Devils announcers crying about the Orlov play like they were about Necas.

I don't think I used the word "dive".

 

[Captain3rdLine]

That’s not how the review process works. If you’re saying that him being down on the ice led to the initial whistle so that they could look for an illegal hit, sure. But the review is based solely on whether the offender took an illegal action, full stop. They’re not going to hit someone with a major penalty on a legal hit just because it had a bad outcome.

But they literally do. That is absolutely how the review process works and has worked for a long time.

He threw himself at Meier. He wanted to be hit. He threw his knee at the guy who’s minding his own business.

Meier was just skating there, getting ready for his annual "Puppies for Orphans" event, when Necas, ranting and raving, foam streaming down his mouth, came out of nowhere and LAUNCHED himself at the unsuspecting Meier. A real difficult thing to watch.

No he didn’t want to be hit and made the contact dangerous lol

There’s a point in taking any hit where you can longer get out of the way safely and trying to do so will make the contact more dangerous.

Players could do what Necas did on any hit of any game and 9/10 times would get a similar result. They don’t because it’s dangerous and players are taught how to properly take hits as much as give them when they are 12 years old

 

[Derailed75]

Is this supposed to be some sort of “gotcha”?

Yes, Devils fans and broadcasters share the same in-group tendency as the Devils coaches and players. It’s literally a fandom attached to a brand.




Well, the observation was simply that the Devils fans who decided to die on this particular internet hill were getting their perspective entirely from the way their team’s broadcast built a Jack Edwards esque moral narrative around the last 10 minutes of that game (conveniently making this about a guy not being injured enough for their satisfaction, rather than about their team imploding in a game they were favored to win).

Later in the thread someone brought up the coaches and players parroting the same narrative, which rightfully got mocked as a “counterpoint”.

This is how conversations work sometimes. People get attached a dumb idea that conveniently supports their biases, then they reach for any weak evidence they can find to support it so they don’t have to do the hard work of walking it back.

Again, imagine a Rangers broadcast saying “that Trouba hit was actually pretty clean” and a bunch of Rangers fans flooding the internet to parrot that point. Then when they get mocked by the rest of the league, they bring up that Rangers coaches and players are also defending Trouba. That’s the argumentative level that you’re at right now. It’s a bad look, but also completely consistent with how fanbases behave when they’re mad. So go off, I guess.



I mean, the broadcast is available online. It’s easy enough to get out of your bubble and watch it.



Only the last of those (which is the one I referred to earlier) directly said they felt Necas took a dive. The other two were airing grievances from other games. I’ll leave it to them if they want to put on clown shoes and go down that path, but otherwise you have one guy who thought it was a dive, other than the one who thought it was a major penalty even if it was milked.

So… one guy who agrees with your position. On the internet, that’s a dismal performance.



Obviously anyone celebrating a personal tragedy is going too far and letting competitive bias go to their heads.

See? That’s not so hard.

Reading comprehension required. One person made a comment and bunch of other people either didn't understand the reference or said that the comment crossed a line.

 

[Hisch13r]

The league didn’t add any supplemental discipline so they must have concluded it was just incidental contact. These two teams won’t play again until the playoffs if they end up matched up at some point. It’s water under the bridge.

Especially considering Timo was literally suspended earlier this season. Not even getting a hearing shows they thought this was a complete nothing burger. Refs got it wrong.

 

[VustyVoles]

Especially considering Timo was literally suspended earlier this season. Not even getting a hearing shows they thought this was a complete nothing burger. Refs got it wrong.

Penalty, no penalty. I can see it both ways even as a devils fan. My biggest issue is that MN acted like he was dead and then didn’t miss a shift. Garbage

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Especially considering Timo was literally suspended earlier this season. Not even getting a hearing shows they thought this was a complete nothing burger. Refs got it wrong.

Ummm just because he didn’t get suspended doesn’t mean it wasn’t a penalty dude. Thats not how anything works.

 

[MartyOwns]

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

Ummm just because he didn’t get suspended doesn’t mean it wasn’t a penalty dude. Thats not how anything works.

Definitely not even close to a major. The acting job is the only reason that happened. No one would be complaining if it was just a minor.

 

[My3Sons]

Ummm just because he didn’t get suspended doesn’t mean it wasn’t a penalty dude. Thats not how anything works.

it can be penalty but it appears the league saw it as a garden variety penalty. In any event, the story is over. Meier was penalized, the penalty stands, no additional discipline was warranted and the game was two days ago and there result isn't changing. This can give both teams something to think about if they meet in the playoffs. There is more than half a season left for both teams. At the end of the season it seems that both will be in the playoffs. This instance should be a footnote for them by then.

 

[Devilsfan118]

Ummm just because he didn’t get suspended doesn’t mean it wasn’t a penalty dude. Thats not how anything works.

A true five minute major for kneeing would almost certainly necessitate further action by the league.

The lack of further discipline here can only support the argument that Necas is a diving little clown.

 

[Ace Card Bedard]

Fair call.

Meier should know better, glad Necas is okay.

 

[Reality Czech]

I don’t think anyone expected him to be further disciplined.

Any word on if Necas will receive an Oscar nomination for his performance?

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

A true five minute major for kneeing would almost certainly necessitate further action by the league.

The lack of further discipline here can only support the argument that Necas is a diving little clown.

The league last handed out supplemental discipline for a kneeing major 2 years ago. They took a similar approach in 3 other occurrences in the sample (Kucherov, Lamoureux and Strome).

 

[FlyguyOX]

Holy crap how was Necas not injured???

DIrty af play from Meier

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

A true five minute major for kneeing would almost certainly necessitate further action by the league.

The lack of further discipline here can only support the argument that Necas is a diving little clown.

Truly delusional post. As Big Daddy Cane mentioned they haven’t handed out further discipline on a kneeing penalty in over two years.

You must not follow hockey very much. More embarrassing stuff from you

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

it can be penalty but it appears the league saw it as a garden variety penalty. In any event, the story is over. Meier was penalized, the penalty stands, no additional discipline was warranted and the game was two days ago and there result isn't changing. This can give both teams something to think about if they meet in the playoffs. There is more than half a season left for both teams. At the end of the season it seems that both will be in the playoffs. This instance should be a footnote for them by then.

Actually it seems as though the league viewed it as a 5 min major. So if that’s your garden variety penalty then sure, let’s go with that.

Definitely not even close to a major. The acting job is the only reason that happened. No one would be complaining if it was just a minor.

Willing to bet you’d be complaining until the next presidential election unless Necas got arrested for his ‘Oscar worthy performance’

 

[My3Sons]

Actually it seems as though the league viewed it as a 5 min major. So if that’s your garden variety penalty then sure, let’s go with that.

yes, it was a five minute penalty. Use whatever adjective you want. Egregious, derelict, atrocious, but it was a penalty as assessed and no further discipline.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

yes, it was a five minute penalty. Use whatever adjective you want. Egregious, derelict, atrocious, but it was a penalty as assessed and no further discipline.

Yes, and that’s what many people here are saying…. There are a few from a certain fan base that wouldn’t be bias in any which way who seem to think that the lack of the league banning Meier from the NHL is proof that it wasn’t a penalty at all. It’s a big pro Canes conspiracy being pushed by the commissioners office because North Carolina is a swing state and New Jersey isn’t so they are trying to sway voters for 2028

 

[Golden_Jet]

A true five minute major for kneeing would almost certainly necessitate further action by the league.

No it doesn’t read that way in the rule book.

 

[Tryamw]

No it doesn’t read that way in the rule book.

Maybe match and major are too close 5 letters start with ma.

 

[My3Sons]

Yes, and that’s what many people here are saying…. There are a few from a certain fan base that wouldn’t be bias in any which way who seem to think that the lack of the league banning Meier from the NHL is proof that it wasn’t a penalty at all. It’s a big pro Canes conspiracy being pushed by the commissioners office because North Carolina is a swing state and New Jersey isn’t so they are trying to sway voters for 2028

I don't think it's a Canes conspiracy so much as a reflection of what is seemingly inconsistent or poor refereeing on a much bigger scale. The first game in the recent back to back and the Canes didn't break one rule all game? That seems unlikely. Then you have the Canes record with the specific officiating crew. It just looks bad. I'm sure if Necas was injured on the play at least some Canes fans would be very upset by the lack of supplemental discipline to Meier. To me either way it's a criticism of the officials not the Canes or the Devils. But since Necas is thankfully ok and Meier served his penalty it's in the past and there is so much season left without these two teams playing again. Just how I see it, not a fact, my opinion.

 

[LakeLivin]

The league last handed out supplemental discipline for a kneeing major 2 years ago. They took a similar approach in 3 other occurrences in the sample (Kucherov, Lamoureux and Strome).

If the league last handed out supplemental discipline for a kneeing major 2 years ago, that must mean that there have been no kneeing majors in the last 2 years. Isn't that how logic has been applied so far in this thread by some?

 

[Devilsfan118]

Truly delusional post. As Big Daddy Cane mentioned they haven’t handed out further discipline on a kneeing penalty in over two years.

Since you clearly have nothing better to do with your time - how many kneeing majors have been handed out over that period of time?

TIA for researching it for me.

You must not follow hockey very much. More embarrassing stuff from you

I'd be angry too if my team fostered embellishers.