Meier knee Necas

[Joe McGrath]

Funny how they went back to call it a major but were fine with it live. If you're going to scrutinize hits like they do offside goals now then have fun. Timo also led with his shoulder first before Necas thought he'd do some Spiderman shit to get out of the way

They were fine with Haula hitting Orlov directly in the head live too. Was that some spiderman shit too?

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

I really don’t understand why seemingly all of this board thinks that if a player returns to a game after showing significant pain that they were a faker.

How many times have you seen a player get attended to on the ice after blocking a shot but return to the game later on? It happens many, many times every season. Are they all faking too?

Regardless of what you all feel about the intentions of the hit and the resulting penalty, it’s so f***ing ignorant to just call the guy a “coward” because he returned after taking knee on knee contact. Like use your brains. You don’t think a play like that would cause significant pain?

Maybe it’s time for you all to get off your couches and do something physical yourselves.

Yes because guys certainly come running back and start dancing guys on the powerplay after that happens, give me a break.This copout answer about people not playing the sport when we have seen similar hits happen to players around the league and they don't come back to the game.

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

Meier’s stance was completely normal. That’s how hockey players stand. In fact the leg that made contact was more tucked in than his other leg. There’s not a single thing he can do.

K, well me and pro refs disagree. So you’re gonna have to call Gary, I guess.

 

[Tryamw]

Funny how they went back to call it a major but were fine with it live. If you're going to scrutinize hits like they do offside goals now then have fun. Timo also led with his shoulder first before Necas thought he'd do some Spiderman shit to get out of the way

We'll Never know if this is the case. But if a Linesman saw it and Told the refs at the stoppage then They are allowed to call if they don't disagree the linesman is not able to call all they can do is Advise. But much like with High sticks linesman can Advise. This is more likely than conspiracy explanation for the order of events.


But sure it's a conspiracy for the benefit of the Carolina hurricanes.. Sure...

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

They were fine with Haula hitting Orlov directly in the head live too. Was that some spiderman shit too?

Haula got penalized for that and I'd argue that was more of a major penalty than what Timo did but thanks for making my point. But good acting on Orlov jumping from the bench after he was on the ice for a minute too

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

It was about 20 seconds after the major was called that he came running (!) back to ensure he could start the next shift. The whole timing was weird

Okay, but just watch the video. You don’t think a guy’s knee bending like that is likely to cause pain? And maybe he still was in pain after a few minutes but not enough to take him off the ice.

I have no affiliation or rooting interest for either of these teams but this “he came back so he was faking being hurt earlier” mantra is trotted out relentlessly in these types of threads. Do guys dive? Yes sometimes they do, of course. But players also push through pain and/or experience high pain that recedes shortly after impact. Again, see shot blocking.

 

[Joe McGrath]

He does. And if Necas doesn't move at the last second the first contact would've been Meier's shoulder. It is a knee on knee but there's not much Timo could've done to avoid it. Absolutely not a major penalty given how it occurred. A minor, sure whatever.

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Look how far apart his legs are. He’s reaching with his knee. I don’t think it’s intentional, or super dirty. Its a penalty though.

 

[thefutures]

So the player can only stay down if he needs surgery or something? Lol

 

[Satans Hockey]

Keefe on the play...

"If you take a big hit laying down on the ice has it's benefits"

Necas is also a Czech and watches soccer and knows exactly what he was doing. Got a few bridges around here for sale if you don't believe he oversold it.

 

[Joe McGrath]

Haula got penalized for that and I'd argue that was more of a major penalty than what Timo did but thanks for making my point. But good acting on Orlov jumping from the bench after he was on the ice for a minute too

He was literally bleeding out both his nostrils. But sure, thats acting.

 

[Tryamw]

Haula got penalized for that and I'd argue that was more of a major penalty than what Timo did but thanks for making my point. But good acting on Orlov jumping from the bench after he was on the ice for a minute too

Um He went to the bench grabbed towel wiped off blood then went after Haula.. He never went off the ice.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Look how far apart his legs are. He’s reaching with his knee. I don’t think it’s intentional, or super dirty. Its a penalty though.

He can't anticipate Necas trying to jump out of the way, of course it looks like that lmao. Again, the onus isn't on Timo that the end result was Necas getting "kneed" if he's trying to jump out of the hit

 

[Cheddabombs]

Look how far apart his legs are. He’s reaching with his knee. I don’t think it’s intentional, or super dirty. Its a penalty though.

I'm looking at how far apart his legs are lol, seems pretty normal? I wouldn't expect someone to line up a hit as they're standing fully upright.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

Yes because guys certainly come running back and start dancing guys on the powerplay after that happens, give me a break.This copout answer about people not playing the sport when we have seen similar hits happen to players around the league and they don't come back to the game.

Just watch the contact and the way his knee bends. If you really think there isn’t a possibly that he was in a lot of pain shortly after contact, I don’t know what to tell you. Again, the shot blocking point I made originally (where play stops to attend to the felled player and yet the player doesn’t miss a shift after sitting on the bench for a commercial break and seems no worse for wear). What’s happening there?

Am I saying he DEFINITELY didn’t embellish? Nope. Only he knows that answer. But it’s entirely possible the pain was significant but temporary. It happens all the time.

 

[Satans Hockey]

 

[gary559]

I'm pretty sure Parros hates Meier.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Looks like 2 for tripping as Meier doesn't seem to move

 

[John Pedro]

Necas till the refs stopped play to call a penalty they didn't call at the moment

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Just watch the contact and the way his knee bends. If you really think there isn’t a possibly that he was in a lot of pain shortly after contact, I don’t know what to tell you. Again, the shot blocking point I made originally (where play stops to attend to the felled player and yet the player doesn’t miss a shift after sitting on the bench for a commercial break and seems no worse for wear). What’s happening there?

Am I saying he DEFINITELY didn’t embellish? Nope. Only he knows that answer. But it’s entirely possible the pain was significant but temporary. It happens all the time.

So now you want to back track after you made the foolish statement about people who disagree with it should go play the sport, lmaooo. Classic HFB, Necas could dive and draw the call. Good for him, defending the guy for doing it is borderline hilarious

 

[dirtydanglez]

i like the call. nothing further needed.

 

[Satans Hockey]

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Necas till the refs stopped play to call a penalty they didn't call at the moment

The refs didn't stop play because Jersey still had the puck. Shortly after Carolina gained possession, they blew the whistle.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

Keefe on the play...

"If you take a big hit laying down on the ice has it's benefits"

Necas is also a Czech and watches soccer and knows exactly what he was doing. Got a few bridges around here for sale if you don't believe he oversold it.

“Necas is also a Czech and watches soccer”

If you come to the table believing in the power of such a stupid bias to provide you knowledge of the situation, I’ve got a few book recommendations for you to get a hold of your own arrogance.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Keefe should be careful. If he complains about the officiating too much, the refs take it personal. RBA knows that too well

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

So now you want to back track after you made the foolish statement about people who disagree with it should go play the sport, lmaooo. Classic HFB, Necas could dive and draw the call. Good for him, defending the guy for doing it is borderline hilarious

Let’s try this again.

What I am saying, and have been saying from the beginning, is that you can’t determine from a player returning to action that he was not in significant pain immediately after impact. This should not be a difficult concept to grasp.

Through the cloud of your own emotional bias, you are talking to me as if I have a vested interest in either team or player. I don’t. What I’m critiquing is the hilariously false notion that a player is automatically a “faker” because he returned to play after signifying that he was in a lot of pain immediately after what, as shown in the video, could clearly be a very painful impact.

I’m sorry that you’re too wound up to understand this extremely basic train of thought and think I am backtracking.