Confirmed with Link: McDonagh + Miller to Tampa Bay for Namestnikov + Howden + Hajek + 2018 1st + conditional 2019 1st
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FireGerardGallant
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Since 2015, Yes. If we somehow made it in this year even without selling off anyone we would of lost in the first round maybe second if Hank stands on his head like last year
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And I think a guy who is a star, like Kovalchuk, whether he is or isn't ethical and moral, can only help. Unless he has a crazy cap hit - then no thank you. I don't know the guy at all and I really don't know if he's going to be a nuisance or a burden on the team, but to have a guy like him who is rather competitive, and can be a threat at all times on the rink, can really be self-invigorating and beneficial for the team moving forward anyway. These young kids will look up to the guy if he has his attitude together. I like how Radulov figured it out for a change.
Edge
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It goes without saying that the Rangers are going to have some misses. It’s inevitable.
The hope is that the misses are kept to a minimum, but they are going to happen.
If we’re not prepared for that, we might as well avoid Rangers hockey for the next few years.
The hope is that the misses are kept to a minimum, but they are going to happen.
If we’re not prepared for that, we might as well avoid Rangers hockey for the next few years.
haohmaru
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Ghost of jas
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Management made a calculated decision. 1) They were not going to re-sign him at the end of his contract. 2) He was an asset of declining value. 3) His value was never going to be higher than it was at the trade deadline. 4) He served no value being on the team for the rest of the year.
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A large part of that success was built through the draft. A team without prospects can't afford to trade for good players. A team without cap space can't afford to sign good free agents.
Think of it like this. You've got a car, but it isn't running very well and you have no money in the bank. So you take money out of your paycheck each month to fix parts of the car, but then other parts start to fail, so then you have to fix those. At the end of the year, you've spent a bunch of money and basically have the same car you started with. So, the following year, you try a new strategy. You save your money. You live with the problems and put only enough into the car to keep it running. In 2 or 3 years, you have enough money saved up to buy a brand new car.
That's where we are at right now. We are saving for that new car.
SingnBluesOnBroadway
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Assets that give them a ton of flexibility and options. And lots of at-bats.
AlternateSideParking
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Howden can play wing and can finish. Very good prospect.
Love Hajek. Always the best dman for the Czechs and for Saskatoon. Skating is plus-plus for a big defender.
They will draft a stud winger or dman with this year's Tampa pick.
I'd rather Point or Sergachev straight up but doubtful Tampa wanted to do either. They know McDonagh is 30 when he hits UFA and will cost a ton.
Not floored by the trade but glad its over. No longer have to worry that McDonagh is the next Staal or Giardi with a massive cap hit.
Now keep losing. Maybe again next year too. Dahlin and Hughes.
Love Hajek. Always the best dman for the Czechs and for Saskatoon. Skating is plus-plus for a big defender.
They will draft a stud winger or dman with this year's Tampa pick.
I'd rather Point or Sergachev straight up but doubtful Tampa wanted to do either. They know McDonagh is 30 when he hits UFA and will cost a ton.
Not floored by the trade but glad its over. No longer have to worry that McDonagh is the next Staal or Giardi with a massive cap hit.
Now keep losing. Maybe again next year too. Dahlin and Hughes.
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KOVALEV022473
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Hyperbole! You have no way of knowing what would have happened. With that said, injuries torpedoed this season, so I can accept selling off the UFA’s for picks. And you stopped at 2015 because we won the Presidents Trophy that season, and went to the ECF. If 3/4 of the D wasn’t half dead, we win the cup.
Ghost of jas
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Which is why you accumulate as many assets as possible to maximize your opportunities to be successful. Not every player drafted or acquired becomes a core piece. You have misses, and you have trade chips.
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Rebuilds
This may come across as disrespectful to these organizations and cities but...
No one wants to play in Edmonton, Buffalo, Glendale, that makes it difficult for them to first attract free agents as well as retain their own players without overpaying. They have to make trades other teams just would not in order to get players who have term.
I'm sure someone will bring up all the other failed rebuilds, yet if they are not in a market similar to the Rangers, or if they had ownership or financial issues, have relocated, or just plain have terrible management, It's going to be difficult to compare them to what the Rangers can do by rebuilding. This includes the Islanders who had both ownership issues and have a car behind their corner glass and Carolina who has been up for sale.
This may come across as disrespectful to these organizations and cities but...
No one wants to play in Edmonton, Buffalo, Glendale, that makes it difficult for them to first attract free agents as well as retain their own players without overpaying. They have to make trades other teams just would not in order to get players who have term.
I'm sure someone will bring up all the other failed rebuilds, yet if they are not in a market similar to the Rangers, or if they had ownership or financial issues, have relocated, or just plain have terrible management, It's going to be difficult to compare them to what the Rangers can do by rebuilding. This includes the Islanders who had both ownership issues and have a car behind their corner glass and Carolina who has been up for sale.
KOVALEV022473
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The Rangers are a unique organization, in that they have other means by which to acquire young talent, ie, Hayes and Vesey.
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Edge
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I agree with this and have had similar thoughts recently.
The Rangers will NOT have a hard time finding talent to play for them.
Personally, I am excited to see what they can do with this young talent and a handful of higher picks.
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Now we can keep worrying about Staal being the current Staal.
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I broke it down here:
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/posts/142273667/
Obviously there are still a lot of unknowns. Gorton may move 1 or more of our RFAs rather than pay them. Regardless, I wouldn't expect to see the Rangers sign any of the big name UFAs.
FireGerardGallant
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We haven't been good since 2015 that's why I stopped there. This rebuild should have began in 2016 after the Pens first round exit
Good thing the Bolts got Miller. Should replace Kucherov who just left the game with a UBI lol.
Edge
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I have to be honest with you, I think the market for McD probably painted a pretty accurate picture for the Rangers to use in their assessment of the landscape.
That might upset some people, but I don’t think there was the kind of fantasy deal out there that some people wanted to believe. I think Gorton fielded calls from all types of teams. I feel comfortable that the Rangers knew what the market was.
haohmaru
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McD hasn't had a great year and that probably hurt negotiations somewhat. The Rangers are going to have to figure out what to do with all of their dead cap space (Smith, Belesky (I assume), & Girardi buyout). That's a lot of swag that's not doing anything. Hopefully, Smith can figure it out and Belesky and a 5th to a cap floor team for used skate laces.
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