Player Discussion McDavid

[Stoneman89]

5 time winner! Quite the accomplishment

"what the heck is this?"

Nice try Conner, you've seen the hardware 4 other times, pretty sure you're familiar with it." Lol

Anyway, congrats! Means way more since it comes from your peers and not some clued out hockey writers.

 

[MrFrosty]

No idea why he would want Babs but wdik

 

[Garbo Man]

Can we talk about his golf swing for a second?

 

[Hippasus]

Werenski had the same amount of turnovers leading to goals as Bouchard, the most giveaways and 14 less points. I Still don’t know how he won. The numbers say otherwise yet most seems to think it was deserved. Guess I am missing something. But that is what I mean. The voters suck and are so biased.

One could argue that Werenski had less to work with on the Blue Jackets and had a marginally better goal-scoring season. Time-on-ice may also favour Werenski. More total and even strength TOI for Werenski. More powerplay and shorthanded TOI for Bouchard.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

One could argue that Werenski had less to work with on the Blue Jackets and had a marginally better goal-scoring season. Time-on-ice may also favour Werenski. More total and even strength TOI for Werenski. More powerplay and shorthanded TOI for Bouchard.

You could make that argument, it's as bad as all the other arguments. You act the like the scoring was close, not a full 14 pts gap.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Well that would be a gawddamn miracle. I sure hope Bob is right.

He can be extended after July 1?

 

[WaitingForUser]

One could argue that Werenski had less to work with on the Blue Jackets and had a marginally better goal-scoring season. Time-on-ice may also favour Werenski. More total and even strength TOI for Werenski. More powerplay and shorthanded TOI for Bouchard.

Still find it amazing how anytime an Oiler shows that they are deserving of this type of award the y decide to change the criteria. In the past decade only two of the highest scoring defenseman haven’t even been a finalist for the Norris. Barrie and Bouchard both Oilers. Meanwhile all we keep hearing is how important it is for the winner to be on a playoff team. Guess they decided that this year playoffs didn’t matter much?

 

[ConnorNova0929]

Well that would be a gawddamn miracle. I sure hope Bob is right.

He can be extended after July 1?

Bob quickly trying to change the topic after the tire fire yesterday.

And it f***ing worked! I hope he's right about everything.

 

[VainGretzky]

Bob could just be trolling Leaf fans listening

 

[McJadeddog]

Bob could just be trolling Leaf fans listening

Yeah, this is just Bob trying to reset that narrative from the disaster that is the Babcock stuff.

 

[Hippasus]

Still find it amazing how anytime an Oiler shows that they are deserving of this type of award the y decide to change the criteria. In the past decade only two of the highest scoring defenseman haven’t even been a finalist for the Norris. Barrie and Bouchard both Oilers. Meanwhile all we keep hearing is how important it is for the winner to be on a playoff team. Guess they decided that this year playoffs didn’t matter much?

You could make that argument, it's as bad as all the other arguments. You act the like the scoring was close, not a full 14 pts gap.

Don't get me wrong, I would have voted for Bouchard as number two, but I don't think the way they vote for the Norris as 'best offensive defenseman' makes much sense. I generally love offensive hockey for entertainment purposes, but I think the best all-around defensemen should be the bigger factor in the voting. If I tried to dig deeper into the stats, I could probably make a better argument for Werenski as my choice, but this is the wrong thread and I would need a day or so.

Anti-Oilers bias on the part of the voters? Maybe?

I haven't heard of making the playoffs as being a factor in the voting the Norris, unlike for the Hart.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Don't get me wrong, I would have voted for Bouchard as number two, but I don't think the way they vote for the Norris as 'best offensive defenseman' makes much sense. I generally love offensive hockey for entertainment purposes, but I think the best all-around defensemen should be the bigger factor in the voting. If I tried to dig deeper into the stats, I could probably make a better argument for Werenski as my choice, but this is the wrong thread and I would need a day or so.

Anti-Oilers bias on the part of the voters? Maybe?

I haven't heard of making the playoffs as being a factor in the voting the Norris, unlike for the Hart.

Bouchard was #1 the entire time, it's just "fun" to build narratives for the underdog.

 

[Inf123]

all of it is such bs, just changing the narrative to get away from the babcock stuff. Why would mcdavid now sign 7 years when he only did 2 this time around with an even worse constructed roster.

 

[Spawn]

Well that would be a gawddamn miracle. I sure hope Bob is right.

He can be extended after July 1?

He can’t sign an extension until July 1st next year. This is just Stauffer trying cover for the backlash the organization is receiving over Babcock.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

He can’t sign an extension until July 1st next year. This is just Stauffer trying cover for the backlash the organization is receiving over Babcock.

I'm sure that's part of it, though stauf doesn't often speak on behalf of the players, he's aware of what making those kind of statements can mean

 

[Spawn]

I'm sure that's part of it, though stauf doesn't often speak on behalf of the players, he's aware of what making those kind of statements can mean

These statements don’t mean anything. It can’t be proven or disproven for a full year. There’s no way Stauffer isn’t saying this to try and calm the waters after the Oilers have pissed the entire fan base off

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

These statements don’t mean anything. It can’t be proven or disproven for a full year. There’s no way Stauffer isn’t saying this to try and calm the waters after the Oilers have pissed the entire fan base off

Ok then. We will have to wait and see, seems like the NHLPA will end up bailing out the Oilers.

 

[timekeep]

all of it is such bs, just changing the narrative to get away from the babcock stuff. Why would mcdavid now sign 7 years when he only did 2 this time around with an even worse constructed roster.

Easy, way higher cap equals way higher AAV.

 

[Rafters]

As expected, Kucherov wins the Hart.. close vote though

 

[oobga]

As expected, Kucherov wins the Hart.. close vote though

Clowns putting McDavid 3rd and 5th more to rob him.

People treating hart like it has to keep rotating if the same guys are the contenders.

 

[Tarus]

As expected, Kucherov wins the Hart.. close vote though

Montreal bloggers showing up for both Suzuki and Caufield

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Landeskog getting a 5th place vote should have you lose your ability to vote.

I wonder which moron from Colorado voted for him

 

[Stoneman89]

Landeskog getting a 5th place vote should have you lose your ability to vote.

I wonder which moron from Colorado voted for him

Sympathy vote,

 

[KCC]

Clowns putting McDavid 3rd and 5th more to rob him.

People treating hart like it has to keep rotating if the same guys are the contenders.

Yup. This is why the media should have no business voting for awards. Mcdavid was robbed again. Carried edm into the playoffs without draisaitl.

 

[Spawn]

As expected, Kucherov wins the Hart.. close vote though

Amazing that Kucherov was the most valuable player to his team in the entire league while also having the Vezina winner along with a Jack Adams winning coach.