McDavid’s 7th 70+ assist season—3rd most in NHL history

[TheLegend27]

Malkin is a significantly better player than Draisaitl.

Actually, Draisaitl's production is the biggest reason I question if McDavid's numbers align with his actual impact. Like Draisaitl is a very good player but by watching him play you would never think the guy was 3rd all time in playoff PPG just 11 months ago. Like is there something about the Oilers or the way they play that boosts his numbers?

Well Draisaitl is a great power play QB because his shot allows him to score from absurd angles and he’s one of the best passers in the NHL. His style is more like Crosby, with elite Hockey IQ, ice awareness and elite/above average skills everywhere else. I think peak Malkin is better, but Drai and Malkin’s prime longevity value is close. The top 10 seasons between the two would be 5 from Malkin and 5 from Drai.

 

[MessierII]

Malkin is a significantly better player than Draisaitl.

Actually, Draisaitl's production is the biggest reason I question if McDavid's numbers align with his actual impact. Like Draisaitl is a very good player but by watching him play you would never think the guy was 3rd all time in playoff PPG just 11 months ago. Like is there something about the Oilers or the way they play that boosts his numbers?

He’s the best passer in the NHL and also a top 2-3 finishers in the NHL. He’s also one of the strongest players on the puck and has hockey sense through the roof. If you can’t pick up why he produces so much watching him play that’s a you thing. There’s nothing weird about it at all.

 

[villacco]

Since Kucherov's MVP season

Assists Per 82 games:
Kucherov 84.5
McDavid 89.9

Since the start of their careers
Kucherov 65
McDavid 82.9

McDavid is clearly ahead.

Nobody is denying that McDavids career is much better.

But as you and I confirmed, they are pretty close in offensive output since 2017

So, McDavid is clearly ahead in career, but they are very close since 2017

 

[Bank Shot]

Nobody is denying that McDavids career is much better.

But as you and I confirmed, they are pretty close in offensive output since 2017

So, McDavid is clearly ahead in career, but they are very close since 2017

Its 1.6 for Mcdavid vs 1.47 points per game for Kucherov.

That is 11 points over 82 games difference. Doesn't sound like much, but that is bigger than the gap between Kucherov and Mackinnon (4 points) and Kucherov and Draisaitl(8 points).

Mathematically you can say that Kucheorv is closer to Mackinnon and Draisaitl than Mcdavid since the 17/18 season.

 

[Nathaniel]

Yes OVs 3 year prime of 08 to 10 is better than what Crosby achieved

Crosby 11 to 13 was tracking to blbetter than OV from 08 to 10 but he missed to much time so it doesnt stack up

OV is still the 9th or 10th greatest player ever imo

Crosby is 6th to 8th imo . So their is a difference but not anything to pretend both aren't still similar tier all time great players.

The thing with ovechkins 3 peak years was that crosby himself was still a top 2 player in the world. After that Crosby took over the best player in the world to at least the start of 17-18. Ovechkin has never been in the discussion since

 

[hamzarocks]

The thing with ovechkins 3 peak years was that crosby himself was still a top 2 player in the world. After that Crosby took over the best player in the world to at least the start of 17-18. Ovechkin has never been in the discussion since

Well yes thats why Crosby is 6th to 8th imo and OV 9th or 10th

You probably have Crosby at 5 ahead of Mcdavid for now

OV as great as his goal scoring was 2011 to now his overall play was not close to Crosby especially from 2011 to 2017.

OVs 3 year prime is still better than Crosbys actual 3 year prime for their careers

 

[McFlash97]

Malkin is a significantly better player than Draisaitl.

Actually, Draisaitl's production is the biggest reason I question if McDavid's numbers align with his actual impact. Like Draisaitl is a very good player but by watching him play you would never think the guy was 3rd all time in playoff PPG just 11 months ago. Like is there something about the Oilers or the way they play that boosts his numbers?

Draisaitls numbers at age 29 vs Malkins is not even close. Leon is blowing Malkin away.

There was a time even I wouldnt compare Leon to Malkin. That time has long past. Leon is blowing Malkins stats to smithereens.

Take a back seat brother.

 

[Frosty415]

Lol mcdavid coming back in garbage time with some points. He was getting obliterated by all of drai kuch n mack when he got injured. 68 gp at 28 is more than enough to win the art ross if he was at mario or waynes level. Lemieux won by 12 points missing 24 games for example. Cant wait to see if a 34-37 year old mcdavid is still pulling off 90 point seasons.

Gee a huge Crosby fanboy favors Crosby still over McDavid, shocking.

Are we still doing the grace period?

 

[Nathaniel]

Gee a huge Crosby fanboy favors Crosby still over McDavid, shocking.

Are we still doing the grace period?

Given that mcdavid is still losing every all time poll to crosby. Im not the only one

 

[Regal]

Malkin is a significantly better player than Draisaitl.

Actually, Draisaitl's production is the biggest reason I question if McDavid's numbers align with his actual impact. Like Draisaitl is a very good player but by watching him play you would never think the guy was 3rd all time in playoff PPG just 11 months ago. Like is there something about the Oilers or the way they play that boosts his numbers?

I think you’re underrating Draisaitl. He’s one of the best shooters in the game along with being one of the best passers, with a high IQ. It’s very similar to what makes Kucherov so effective. He’s also huge and impossible to get the puck from. Malkin was better at his peak and was more noticeably dominant, particularly with carrying the puck, but Draisaitl’s production isn’t that surprising if you watch him regularly.

I think the only thing that might be upping the star Oilers numbers a bit in the playoffs is their poor goaltending means that score effects can force them to have to keep pushing offense. The Calgary series where Draisaitl had the most points ever in a single series was one where the teams just kept going back and forth due to poor goaltending. But those series can happen to anyone. The Pittsburgh-Philly series in 2012 was like that too.

 

[Boxertim]

She sells seashells by the seashore

Three seashells

 

[BallardEra]

Two more assists.

1 point away from 100

 

[crowfish]

Lol mcdavid coming back in garbage time with some points. He was getting obliterated by all of drai kuch n mack when he got injured. 68 gp at 28 is more than enough to win the art ross if he was at mario or waynes level. Lemieux won by 12 points missing 24 games for example. Cant wait to see if a 34-37 year old mcdavid is still pulling off 90 point seasons.

Looks like he is near Wayne & Mario's level to me. The Excel conditional formatting algorithm agrees.

 

[The Panther]

It's really a pity about the Covid shutdown happening when it did in 2020. If it had happened, like, 5 days later, McDavid would now be working on his NINTH-straight 100-point season. As it is, this includes a 56 game season in which he scored well over 100.

I've been watching NHL since the mid-1980s. The three best forwards I've seen, over any extended period of time, are:

1. Gretzky (mid-1980s to 1991)
2. Lemieux (1987 to 1996)
3. McDavid (2017 to 2024)

 

[Acallabeth]

Looks like he is near Wayne & Mario's level to me. The Excel conditional formatting algorithm agrees.

Adjust it any way your want, but prime McDavid losing 3 Art Rosses to Kucherov (all with lower PPG, not just on games played) means that either he's not anywhere near Wayne & Mario's level or Kucherov is at least a top 10 forward ever himself.

 

[Cup Or Bust]

It's really a pity about the Covid shutdown happening when it did in 2020. If it had happened, like, 5 days later, McDavid would now be working on his NINTH-straight 100-point season. As it is, this includes a 56 game season in which he scored well over 100.

I've been watching NHL since the mid-1980s. The three best forwards I've seen, over any extended period of time, are:

1. Gretzky (mid-1980s to 1991)
2. Lemieux (1987 to 1996)
3. McDavid (2017 to 2024)

Definitely agree. McDavid is currently top 3 in NHL history in points and assists per game. McDavid has won 14 individual awards in only 10 seasons. His overall career individual achievements compared to anyone else of similar age and games played currently in the league is massive in an era of the salary cap and much more parity. Gretzky and Lemieux are the only ones comparable from a much different era.