Value of: MAYFIELD A Nine team All West Bidding War

[miscs75]

Islanders will up the ante and trade you Barzal if you send back a Turgeon, Hogue,Krupp, and McLwain equivalent

What if we sent them Mayfield for Brent’s son Tage? He has ties to the Islanders already.

 

[Hunter368]

I hope you are right.
They have been awfully quiet.

Who are they targeting?

Rumour is they are big on Timo, but who knows. They need forward help more then D

 

[LeapOnOver]

Stopped reading after the 1sr sentence where OP placed Karlsson and Gavrikov in the same tier

You should have stopped reading before you started if that's how poor your reading comprehension is.

 

[Sparksrus3]

(pic from 2020)
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Pierre looks good to me. He can probably give you some stretch run minutes.

Ouch

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

You should have stopped reading before you started if that's how poor your reading comprehension is.

Lol, what does creme de la creme mean to you?

 

[Oddbob]

There will be no bidding war for Scott Mayfield.

 

[Seph]

There will be no bidding war for Scott Mayfield.

Mayfield's basically just like Chiarot, if Chiarot was notably more physical, right handed, more playoff proven, and had only half the AAV. Obviously no one was interested in bidding much on Chiarot. And historically, no GMs care about physical play for the playoffs or are looking for playoff proven right handed dmen, much less for such a player they could easily under the cap with no extra moves. So, I totally agree there is no chance there would be much in the way of bids for someone like Mayfield, were he to be made available.

 

[Sparksrus3]

You should have stopped reading before you started if that's how poor your reading comprehension is.

Lol, what does creme de la creme mean to you?

multiple orgasm ?

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

Don' know what the market (i.e. how many bidders) would be for Mayfield if he were to be had, but aside from looking like a fairly awkward wide-legged skater, Mayfield is a big, tough SOB who plays the game any way it comes in all three zones. You skate towards him and he'll start defending by using his long reach to pokecheck. If you get by that, he immediately puts on the body. He can be a real handful in the corners and in front of the net, and I can't remember seeing forwards get by him once he puts on the hurt.

He's a righty shot and whereas he's basically just a 20-point defender, many of his assists are fantastic - as in the result of surprisingly strong vision and timing. Whereas his first pass was once questionable, it's become one of the solid aspects of his game the past two seasons. There are teams in this league where he'd surely be more than a 20-point Dman.

But aside from the snarl, aggressiveness, and righty shot that are of general interest to most teams, he's an absolute fixture on what has been one of the best PK units in the league. He eats so many lanes and shots and attempted passes. He's quick to hop on rebounds. He's the go-to defender for the Isles on the PK.

In essence, he's the perfect #5 RHD warrior for a long playoff drive.

And he has the experience of getting to a conference final Game 6 and then Game 7 in back-to-back years.

When you see what a Ben Chiarot got last spring, one can't help but wonder what a guaranteed minute muncher with the prerequisites stated above would mean for the GM of a contender whose team is missing just that kind of thing.

 

[Isles72]

theres a better chance Lou resigns mayfield , varly , parise a week after the deadline .

 

[Kurrilino]

The Kings are not trading for 30+ players

 

[CupHolders]

The Kings are not trading for 30+ players

I should hope not! That would be more than 60% of their entire organizational contract allotment.

 

[LeapOnOver]

Lol, what does creme de la creme mean to you?

Creme del la ceme means that the thing(s) you are listing are the best or most desirable of a certain group of things. It by no means defines the relationship between the things you are listing as creme de la creme. By saying Gavrikov and Karlsson are at the top, the OP is stating they are the most desirable free agents out of the defenseman rumored to be available, but by no means defines any relationship between Karlsson or Gavrikov compared to each other. It's pretty clear cut. Seems you just arrogantly stated you would stop reading because of your own faulty implied meaning you inserted into the OPs statement.

If you want to argue Gavrikov being more desirable over some other rumored defenseman not mentioned, go right ahead. You can definitely share that opinion.

multiple orgasm ?

Hopefully with your profile pic involved!

 

[BlueTacos]

Blues will sign him in offseason

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Creme del la ceme means that the thing(s) you are listing are the best or most desirable of a certain group of things. It by no means defines the relationship between the things you are listing as creme de la creme. By saying Gavrikov and Karlsson are at the top, the OP is stating they are the most desirable free agents out of the defenseman rumored to be available, but by no means defines any relationship between Karlsson or Gavrikov compared to each other. It's pretty clear cut. Seems you just arrogantly stated you would stop reading because of your own faulty implied meaning you inserted into the OPs statement.

If you want to argue Gavrikov being more desirable over some other rumored defenseman not mentioned, go right ahead. You can definitely share that opinion.

Ok and why would Karlsson (11.5M contract for 4 more years, #1 defenseman) be in the same group as Gavrikov (2.8M cap hit on last year, #4 defenseman)? At least try and say someone similar like Gavrkov and Gostisbehere, or Karlsson and Chychrun. The teams look at Gavrikov are by no means at all looking at Karlsson and vise versa. Might as well have thrown Meier in there too because of how much the 2 players markets relate

 

[LeapOnOver]

Ok and why would Karlsson (11.5M contract for 4 more years, #1 defenseman) be in the same group as Gavrikov (2.8M cap hit on last year, #4 defenseman)? At least try and say someone similar like Gavrkov and Gostisbehere, or Karlsson and Chychrun. The teams look at Gavrikov are by no means at all looking at Karlsson and vise versa. Might as well have thrown Meier in there too because of how much the 2 players markets relate

That's a fair point but I don't think the OP was way off by thinking those two are the most sought after. Certainly not enough to be met with such a disrespectful response.

 

[miscs75]

Blues will sign him in offseason

Leddy and Mayfield 2.0? A match made in heaven. Now you can watch them be on the ice for an excessive amount of goals against due to terrible positioning and both being caught on the same side of the ice.

 

[kmwtrucks]

with a flat cap next year I don't see anybody trading for Karlsson unless a bad contract goes back like nurse.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

That's a fair point but I don't think the OP was way off by thinking those two are the most sought after. Certainly not enough to be met with such a disrespectful response.

They definitely aren't though. Lets look at Karlsson for example. After this year Karlsson is still going to be owed 39M in actual money. I would say at most Sharks ownership would be willing to retain about 5M, maybe 6M in actual money to get a deal done, that's 12.8% to 15.4% retention. So that's a retained cap hit of 9.73M to 10.03M. The amount of teams that can actually take on that cap hit is extremely limited, even with sending cap back the other way.

The point I'm making is that in the cap world he is definitely not a highly sought after player simply due to the amount of hoop jumping you would need to do to land him

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Mayfield to a western conference team?
Dallas doesn’t have a 1st and IMO, if they add - they add upfront. Same for Colorado.

I see Jets standing pat.

Edmonton looks to be only team that could use a D man. Seattle and Kings are set on the Rightside D. VGK might need a goalie.

Nashville might be sellers than buyers.

If Mayfield is moved - I can see Carolina being a potential suitor.

Canes are all set on RHD. Probably all set on D in general. Maybe just grab a depth piece in case of injuries.

 

[LeapOnOver]

They definitely aren't though. Lets look at Karlsson for example. After this year Karlsson is still going to be owed 39M in actual money. I would say at most Sharks ownership would be willing to retain about 5M, maybe 6M in actual money to get a deal done, that's 12.8% to 15.4% retention. So that's a retained cap hit of 9.73M to 10.03M. The amount of teams that can actually take on that cap hit is extremely limited, even with sending cap back the other way.

The point I'm making is that in the cap world he is definitely not a highly sought after player simply due to the amount of hoop jumping you would need to do to land him

Now your mixing up highly sought after and cost. It's fine if you do that. But you can't say that a Bugatti is not highly sought after because it's too expensive, lol. Karlsson would be an insta-trade if he was making pennies on the dollar, making him highly sought after. Price makes it prohibitive per team, but doesn't change the desire to want him on a team.

None of these are swaying me into thinking that the disrespect was warranted. Probably nothing will honestly.

 

[ALEXIVICH CHULKATURI]

After we saw what Nashville was abled to get in the trade with Tampa for Tanner Jeannot what could get the Islanders get for Varlamov and Mayfield. I had suggested three second round picks for Mayfield and I was scorned but if Tampa was so desperate for Jeannot I ask why not for Mayfield? There are 9 teams in the west that are separated by 10 points. Varlamov is better than both Grubauer and Jones. Varlamov is better than Markstrom and Vladar. So I again I ask could Scott Mayfield and Semyon Varlamov land the Islanders three second round picks from Seattle or one second round pick and two thirds from the Knights. How about the Oilers, would they offer a first and second for the pair?

 

[McSuper]

Don' know what the market (i.e. how many bidders) would be for Mayfield if he were to be had, but aside from looking like a fairly awkward wide-legged skater, Mayfield is a big, tough SOB who plays the game any way it comes in all three zones. You skate towards him and he'll start defending by using his long reach to pokecheck. If you get by that, he immediately puts on the body. He can be a real handful in the corners and in front of the net, and I can't remember seeing forwards get by him once he puts on the hurt.

He's a righty shot and whereas he's basically just a 20-point defender, many of his assists are fantastic - as in the result of surprisingly strong vision and timing. Whereas his first pass was once questionable, it's become one of the solid aspects of his game the past two seasons. There are teams in this league where he'd surely be more than a 20-point Dman.

But aside from the snarl, aggressiveness, and righty shot that are of general interest to most teams, he's an absolute fixture on what has been one of the best PK units in the league. He eats so many lanes and shots and attempted passes. He's quick to hop on rebounds. He's the go-to defender for the Isles on the PK.

In essence, he's the perfect #5 RHD warrior for a long playoff drive.

And he has the experience of getting to a conference final Game 6 and then Game 7 in back-to-back years.

When you see what a Ben Chiarot got last spring, one can't help but wonder what a guaranteed minute muncher with the prerequisites stated above would mean for the GM of a contender whose team is missing just that kind of thing.

Edmonton 1st + Puljujarvi or cap reason + 2024 3rd

 

[saintunspecified]

This is a tough situation for NYI, because it's difficult to see them trading him away, and it's difficult to see them resigning him (unless they can somehow shed salary). He has his warts, but his positives outshine the negatives especially when one considers his intangibles.

The best fits for teams who can use him imo are Toronto, and Edmonton.

 

[Olliemets]

Islanders will up the ante and trade you Barzal if you send back a Turgeon, Hogue,Krupp, and McLwain equivalent

I loved Patty but for Value that might be the best haul ever in a trade for a superstar any of the teams I root for have ever made.