Player Discussion Max Domi Part II

[montreal]

In what world is Chucky a better player? He was junk here. A true enigma.

I wasn't the biggest Galchenyuk fan but junk is total bull shit. The guy was consistently 2nd in scoring the past 3 years if you count 2 years ago when he missed 21 games but was on pace for 59 pts.

 

[The Great Weal]

I wasn't the biggest Galchenyuk fan but junk is total bull ****. The guy was consistently 2nd in scoring the past 3 years if you count 2 years ago when he missed 21 games but was on pace for 59 pts.

Reminds me of when Weber had that crazy start here and Subban was injured so many here thought Subban sucked.

 

[MasterD]

I wasn't the biggest Galchenyuk fan but junk is total bull ****. The guy was consistently 2nd in scoring the past 3 years if you count 2 years ago when he missed 21 games but was on pace for 59 pts.

Exactly. And Galchenyuk had many issues, skating being one and off-ice being another, but he was dicked around by the coaching staff.

 

[cphabs]

In what world is Chucky a better player? He was junk here. A true enigma.

LMAO! The enigma is our team’s pedigree, while trying to develop players outside of Quebec. Seriously, if “Cucky” received 1/2 of the treatment “DD” had? We would be have our #1 center. Just my opinion as a fan.

 

[admiralcadillac]

Reminds me of when Weber had that crazy start here and Subban was injured so many here thought Subban sucked.

Right but Weber has been injured and people have started saying the exact same thing. Goes both ways.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Exactly. And Galchenyuk had many issues, skating being one and off-ice being another, but he was dicked around by the coaching staff.

The coach more frequently accused of dicking Chucky around kept saying the goal was to have him at C, worked with him and eventually did promote him as his #1C while he was still 21. Until he got hurt by Kopitar, Chucky was around 1.0ppg for 46 games with a +9 rating.

After he came back from the injury, he was still centering our top wingers. If we go back to the last game Therrien coached, #27 was the 1C.

Then Chu Rien came in and decided to flex his muscles and crapped all over Chucky. That was the beginning of the end for him here.

 

[The Great Weal]

Right but Weber has been injured and people have started saying the exact same thing. Goes both ways.

Subban didn't have a ankle AND knee surgery at 33 years old. It's very concerning. However, I do agree that it is absurd to call Weber off when he looked phenomenal last year.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Subban didn't have a ankle AND knee surgery at 33 years old. It's very concerning. However, I do agree that it is absurd to call Weber off when he looked phenomenal last year.

It really was all bad luck though. Broke his foot blocking a shot and then hurt his knee playing through it when the foot break was undetected. But I don’t think either are all that serious, just needs to rebuild the muscles that have weakened during the healing process.

 

[Tyson]

Domi has played well and he is a big reason the team plays an entirely different style. Fast, tenacious and skilled. Plays way bigger than he is.

 

[groovejuice]

Galchenyuk has good size, good vision, and a great shot, but he simply lacks the ability to think the game quickly, or move his feet quickly. It really is time to move on and be happy we were able to parlay him into Domi who is filling the role we originally drafted Galchenyuk for.

I'm quite certain Galchenyuk was drafted to score goals. He was very good at that, even when yoyoed around the lineup and had new linemates as often as he had new sticks.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

I'm quite certain Galchenyuk was drafted to score goals. He was very good at that, even when yoyoed around the lineup and had new linemates as often as he had new sticks.

On the PP is was quite good at scoring goals yes. But I’d take a playmaking C over a pure shooter every time.

 

[admiralcadillac]

Subban didn't have a ankle AND knee surgery at 33 years old. It's very concerning. However, I do agree that it is absurd to call Weber off when he looked phenomenal last year.

Yes I agree, I thought your point (that I was agreeing to) was that an injury is an unfair indication of the relative usefulness or talent of the player. Subban being injured doesn't make him a bad player.

 

[groovejuice]

On the PP is was quite good at scoring goals yes. But I’d take a playmaking C over a pure shooter every time.

There's no substitute for a goal scorer on a team that has difficulty putting the puck in the net. I like what I've seen from Domi, but his style of play wasn't the greatest need, by far.

 

[DAChampion]

I understand that galchenyuk is the "closest" situation we can compare kotkaniemi's situation with, but the gap of talent in playmaking abilities, 2way play and hockey IQ makes the comparison pointless.

Kotkaniemi is still finding out about his limits, the league, what he can or can't do. Faceoffs, hitting, i mean it might not look spectacular and eye catching but he's been learning and you can see it from game to game.

As long as he logs 14 minutes and plays with confidence i see no reason to panic.

Yeah no, you're relying on hindsight.

The current evaluations of JK are consistent with the first-year evaluations of AG, in fact people might have been even more impressed with the latter.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

There's no substitute for a goal scorer on a team that has difficulty putting the puck in the net. I like what I've seen from Domi, but his style of play wasn't the greatest need, by far.

A top 6 C wasn’t our greatest need?

 

[cphabs]

Galchenyuk has good size, good vision, and a great shot, but he simply lacks the ability to think the game quickly, or move his feet quickly. It really is time to move on and be happy we were able to parlay him into Domi who is filling the role we originally drafted Galchenyuk for.

We drafted Galchenyuk as a large skilled center, which he was. Unfortunately, we decided to delay his development to make room for DD. Want to know why I love this kid? Even through all of this? He managed to put together a 30 goal season.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Yeah no, you're relying on hindsight.

The current evaluations of JK are consistent with the first-year evaluations of AG, in fact people might have been even more impressed with the latter.

Galchenyuk was the more hyped “prospect”, but he ended up having fatal flaws. Kotkaniemi doesn’t really have any holes in his game.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

We drafted Galchenyuk as a large skilled center, which he was. Unfortunately, we decided to delay his development to make room for DD. Want to know why I love this kid? Even through all of this? He managed to put together a 30 goal season.

He grew into a winger. That’s just what happened. Didn’t have the pace or intelligence to hang at center.

 

[dinodebino]

I don't agree with the comparisons. Two very different individuals with veryyy different skillsets and approach to hockey. And a very different family environment. I like KK's mother, personally. Personal choice I must admit.

 

[Captain Mountain]

He grew into a winger. That’s just what happened. Didn’t have the pace or intelligence to hang at center.

Well, Galchenyuk is off the IR and will likely be centering Crouse and Keller on Arizona's first line, so we'll see if your assessment is accurate.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Well, Galchenyuk is off the IR and will likely be centering Crouse and Keller on Arizona's first line, so we'll see if your assessment is accurate.

Definitely a great position to succeed.

 

[groovejuice]

A top 6 C wasn’t our greatest need?

Sure, if you're willing to ignore that Galchenyuk was exactly that. And he scores goals.

 

[admiralcadillac]

Sure, if you're willing to ignore that Galchenyuk was exactly that. And he scores goals.

As of right now Domi has more goals than chucky

 

[groovejuice]

As of right now Domi has more goals than chucky

Domi has more ice time. Gakchenyuk has more time on ice.

 

[admiralcadillac]

Domi has more ice time. Gakchenyuk has more time on ice.

Touché!

That may actually be a legitimate hindrance for Galchenyuk though. He's not necessarily injury prone but he gets them at bad times.