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Proposal: Matthews+ for McDavid

NVious said:
This isn't a Leafs fan proposing this.

Anyways, from an Edmonton perspective, I don't know if the Leafs had full rights to the core four and offered them at 50% for McDavid, if Edmonton would do that.

Edmonton counter offers Kapanen/Brown/2nd for Knies.
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So if McDavid says he wasn’t re-signing you wouldn’t take the core 4 for them? Interesting.
 


This only works for the Oilers if McDavid says he is never re-upping in Edmonton and he demands to be traded to the Leafs… even then, Leafs add.

This never works for McDavid or the Leafs because it would guarantee he would never win a Cup. How exactly would the Leafs build a contender with only McDavid, Nylander, no first round picks in the next 3 years, an aging D core and average goaltending?

McDavid, if he chooses to play in TO will leave Edmonton as a FA and sign there as a FA. He needs Matthews (or significant returning assets) there if he has any chance.
 
McDavid shows up in the playoffs. Matthews doesn’t. For that reason alone Edmonton doesn’t consider it. Then you factor in that Edmonton’s only compensation for downgrading is a 12,000 year old Chris Tanev and… nah. Not worth considering, even if McDavid wouldn’t sign.
 
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So hypothetically the Oilers lose the best player on the planet . . . and to appease their fan base they acquire arguably the biggest playoff bust in the past 30 years?

Yeah. That doesn't make sense at all.
 
I am Canadian said:
This simply isn't a realistic thing to be discussed. If Edmonton lose McDavid they pretty much have to rebuild at that point
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Not necessarily. Draisaitl+X+Bouchard+Nuge/Hyman/Nurse/whatever is a good core and will make the playoffs every year but Matthews isn’t that guy, he’s just not. If Edmonton did decide to rebuild/retool with a hypothetical loss of McDavid they’d likely want younger pieces without the baggage Matthews carries.
 
It's Matthews + Knies + few first round picks.

Won't happen though. Matthews value is extremely low, he won't waive for Edmonton and McDavid is not going to want to play for Toronto. Not yet at least. If he's leaving, he's going to south and trying something different while he's still in his prime.
 
I like Tanev, but he turns 36 2 months into next season. Those 5 more years isn't a selling point. I'm guessing Toronto is eating 2m here on that contract?

If McDavid is extending with Toronto here, Edmonton is asking for something huge coming back.
 
The idea that every Toronto born guy wants to play for the Leafs is flawed. Yes they got Tavares but he’s been the exception rather than the rule. If McDavid wanted to move on from Edmonton (highly unlikely given their recent playoff success) I’d think he’d pick a team with a strong chance of winning the Cup.
 
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landy said:
Before you lose your minds, this is assuming McDavid says he is not going to re-sign in EDM early after they lose to the Stars this postseason. So Edm then has the decision to go for one more run with McDavid or Rantanen it and move him now before you lose him for nothing potentially. I am also assuming both Tavares and Marner are gone so lots of money to spend and TOR gives McDavid 8x$17 or whatever high amount you want to put here.

Obviously this would break the NHL internet, but what else does TOR have to add, if anything, to Matthews for an extended McDavid (not just a rental). Inserting Matthews into EDM keeps them in contention mode, but can easily argue is a downgrade over McDavid.

Matthews - $13.25 for 3 more years
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McDavid - Extends with TOR 8 years
Tanev - $2.5M for 5 more years
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No. McDavid isn’t being traded and if he was the Oilers need a 1D and 1 G to start
 
landy said:
Before you lose your minds, this is assuming McDavid says he is not going to re-sign in EDM early after they lose to the Stars this postseason. So Edm then has the decision to go for one more run with McDavid or Rantanen it and move him now before you lose him for nothing potentially. I am also assuming both Tavares and Marner are gone so lots of money to spend and TOR gives McDavid 8x$17 or whatever high amount you want to put here.

Obviously this would break the NHL internet, but what else does TOR have to add, if anything, to Matthews for an extended McDavid (not just a rental). Inserting Matthews into EDM keeps them in contention mode, but can easily argue is a downgrade over McDavid.

Matthews - $13.25 for 3 more years
for
McDavid - Extends with TOR 8 years
Tanev - $2.5M for 5 more years
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IMO the chance of McDavid joining TML is much higher if the Oilers win the cup this year instead of losing to DAL.
With a cup under his belt he will more likely to explore other options and/or chase big money.

His best bet for another shot at cup next year will be the Oilers.
 
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