Matthew Tkachuk vs Keith Tkachuk

[Felidae]

Who is the better player? Consider prime and peak

Has Matthew already surpassed his father as a player? If not, do you think he will eventually surpass him?

Matthew is currently close to the amount of games Keith spent in Winnipeg (and just a year younger than Keith's last year in winnipeg/PHX, here are their stats through their first 600+ games.

Matthew Tkachuk.

GP 621 G 231 A 383 P 614

From 2016 to now he ranks

15th in points
25th in goals
25th in PPG

Stat and award finishes

Goals: 9th
Points: 6th, 9th
PPG: 4th
Hart: 3, 14
Selke: 14, 17


Keith Tkachuk

GP 652 G 329 A 302 P 631

From 1991 to 2000 he ranks

13th in goals
31st in points
32nd in PPG

Stat and award finishes

Goals: 1, 6, 7
GPG: 4, 5, 5, 10
Hart: 10th, 14th
Selke: 17th


Post 2000-01 he finished 3rd, 5th and 9th in GPG. Then added 7th and 10th plave goal finish.


Ended his career with 1201 GP, 538 goals and 1065 points

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[gritdash60]

If Matthew quitted right now, Big Walt is the better one but it will change.

This message might include some unwarranted fandom for oldschool players.

 

[Felidae]

Ok... just cause on second thought I have a feeling Matthew might run away with this, im gonna play devils advocate a bit here.

Keith Tkachuk was one of the best power forwards of the 90s, and had a physical presence that Matthew and even Brady will likely never match, and while he never reached the highs of Matthew in point production, it's worth noting that he had much less support in his prime.

Speaking mostly on his time with PHX, He was basically the main star on his team. His teams would barely make the playoffs, and then could never make it out the first round. You could blame Keith for some of it, but he didn't have the supporting cast to pull through when teams were targeting him, and they most definitely were since he was by far their best player.

Matthew Tkachuk in comparison, had the luxury of playing on statistically one of the best lines in the past decade (Gaudreau, Lindholm, Tkachuk) and now in Florida, has played mostly on the 2nd line while Barkov faces the toughest match-ups. Though to his credit, in his Hart finalist season he outscored the next highest teammate by 31 points.

Here is Keith Tkachuk's point and goalscoring gap over his own teammates during his 2 best years.


1995-96
23 more goals than 2nd highest
26 more points than 2nd highest(Selanne was producing at a similar rate to Tkachuk, but played only 51 games.)

1996-97
20 more goals than 2nd highest
17 more points than 2nd highest.
23 more EVG than 2nd highest, and more impressive, he factored in on a quarter of his teams EVG.

 

[Regal]

I think Keith was maybe more talented physically and definitely the better goal scorer but Matthew is a smarter player, better playmaker and better defensively. I think he’s also a smarter player and while they both have had issues getting off their game from getting too into the physical/pest role in the playoffs, Matt also figured it out in the 2023 run to a level Keith never did.

 

[Bouboumaster]

Keith is more of a physical beast than Matthew, but Matt is much more versatile and IMO, a better hockey player overall

 

[tabness]

Matthew is probably a greater finesse talent but he plays in a powderpuff era and his old man called him and his teammates a "bunch of p***yes" and didn't even a toss his hat for him (tells you what he thinks about inflated stats nowadays) so no matter how many 100 point seasons or cups ratty Matty gets he will never be able to shake that

 

[dirtydanglez]

matt is more skilled, keith made better use of his size. overall i think matt is the best decision here.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Matthew, not close. Big Keith weighs over 500lbs right now. The guy is massive.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Keith was a player built for his era. That kind of guy doesn’t fit in the league quite so well any more. But at that time, someone like Keith Tkachuk could absolutely wreck an opponent with the way he played in the gritty parts of the rink.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Matthew. He won a cup. It’s what apparently separates the good from great.

 

[hamzarocks]

Are the Tkachuk's the most productive hockey family in NHL history?

Not counting Gretzky since there isnt equalish tier players there

Tkachucks should all be 1000+ career point players

Other elite families are

Howe (quantity and quality)

Sutter (mostly quantity but have quality coaching and other roles)

Suter

Hughes (very young still)

Esposito's

Stastny's