Matthew Tkachuk tore adductor off the bone and hernia on the same side; 23 points this playoffs

[ItWasJustified]

Hockey players are a different breed.

Until they have to play in a Canadian city with a bit more pressure and attention.

 

[KingsFan7824]

Maybe the NHL playoffs aren't all that hard. I feel lied to.

 

[Shonky]

Some guys play with that and some guys leave their team hanging with a banged up wrist.. smh my head

 

[Allan92]

Yeah, I'm partly calling bullshit here.

Definitely some embellishment going on.

You cannot skate at any level, let alone the NHL level, with the injuries he has described, even if you are tough as nails. Plus he seems to be partying all week with the team just fine.

Kinda reminds me of the never ending enhancements to the legend of Lemieux and his back injuries. At this point, I fully expect some podcaster to come out and claim his back was so bad, his teammates had to bring to the ice in a wheelbarrow

 

[barkovcanfinnish]

Yeah, I'm partly calling bullshit here.

Definitely some embellishment going on.

You cannot skate at any level, let alone the NHL level, with the injuries he has described, even if you are tough as nails. Plus he seems to be partying all week with the team just fine.

Kinda reminds me of the never ending enhancements to the legend of Lemieux and his back injuries. At this point, I fully expect some podcaster to come out and claim his back was so bad, his teammates had to bring to the ice in a wheelbarrow

Let’s put it this way. I believe he had those injuries. I believe it hindered his play.

I also believe that he was filled to the brim with all kinds of drugs and other pain relief to keep him going though his injuries.

My two cents.

 

[Allan92]

Let’s put it this way. I believe he had those injuries. I believe it hindered his play.

I also believe that he was filled to the brim with all kinds of drugs and other pain relief to keep him going though his injuries.

My two cents.

Oh he's definitely not making it up, I agree.

But embellishing. No amount of drugs will get you through those injuries if they're as bad as he claims

 

[leafsafc]

23 points in 23 games is an awful playoff run?

It's crazy when you look at those numbers, but I thought he was terrible. He still got his minutes, he still passed the puck sideways all over the powerplay. Scored some big goals in game 5 of course...

His skating and compete level was brutal in Leafs series. I was waiting for the media to catch on, but they just never did. I think Bieksa called him lazy by about game 6.

Anyways it doesn't matter, he won the cup back to back and his legacy lives on forever. I'll remember him for being a terrible playoff performer.

 

[tny760]

Yeah, I'm partly calling bullshit here.

Definitely some embellishment going on.

You cannot skate at any level, let alone the NHL level, with the injuries he has described, even if you are tough as nails. Plus he seems to be partying all week with the team just fine.

Kinda reminds me of the never ending enhancements to the legend of Lemieux and his back injuries. At this point, I fully expect some podcaster to come out and claim his back was so bad, his teammates had to bring to the ice in a wheelbarrow

i mean the adductor is a multi-headed muscle, i wouldn't be surprised if you could fight through a torn segment given the amount of muscle these guys' lower bodies have and the access to world class drugs

this isn't "erik karlsson having HALF HIS ANKLE REMOVED!!!1" level embellishment

 

[SImpelton]

Connects to the carbunator.

 

[Ole Gil]

Crazy to hear what guys tolerate during the playoffs. Though this makes me wonder if Tkachuk will start to decline earlier than expected since he's taken so much punishment already.

They probably have some pretty good painkillers and stabilization, etc.... I bet the real pain hits now, not during the games.

 

[NotCommitted]

It's crazy when you look at those numbers, but I thought he was terrible. He still got his minutes, he still passed the puck sideways all over the powerplay. Scored some big goals in game 5 of course...

His skating and compete level was brutal in Leafs series. I was waiting for the media to catch on, but they just never did. I think Bieksa called him lazy by about game 6.

Anyways it doesn't matter, he won the cup back to back and his legacy lives on forever. I'll remember him for being a terrible playoff performer.

It was obvious he was nowhere near 100% but I thought he managed to stay pretty effective regardless with what he could give. Didn't really get the sense the Panthers would've been better off sitting him, which quite often is the case with guys playing really hurt. It certainly helped the 1st & 3rd lines generally took all the difficult zone starts & match ups.

 

[NYRnine94]

It's crazy when you look at those numbers, but I thought he was terrible. He still got his minutes, he still passed the puck sideways all over the powerplay. Scored some big goals in game 5 of course...

His skating and compete level was brutal in Leafs series. I was waiting for the media to catch on, but they just never did. I think Bieksa called him lazy by about game 6.

Anyways it doesn't matter, he won the cup back to back and his legacy lives on forever. I'll remember him for being a terrible playoff performer.

8 goals 15 assists playing injured in 23 playoff games is terrible? What is a good playoff run in your eyes? 80 points in 23 games?

 

[BB88]

23 points in 23 games is an awful playoff run?

He wasn’t a factor early on but got better as the run went on, Carolina series->

 

[wetcoast]

Hockey players are a different breed.

Teams with as many dawgs as the Panthers have are tough to beat.

I agree but that being said all that wear and tear will catch up to Tkachuk, and already has in a way, and that's why in part a 3peat isn't happening.

Heck the Cats were a bit lucky to get out of the second round IMO.

 

[Greatzsky 99]

I wonder myself. That injury would severely limit your ability to function even at 50%.

It probably isnt true

 

[Greatzsky 99]

I agree but that being said all that wear and tear will catch up to Tkachuk, and already has in a way, and that's why in part a 3peat isn't happening.

Heck the Cats were a bit lucky to get out of the second round IMO.

These myths about hockey players are beginning to be boring
hockey players arent tougher then other athletes

 

[Greatzsky 99]

Kevin Durant came back early from a calf strain and ruptured his achilles by the 3rd quarter. So I'd reserve judgement on this.

This hockey players are so so tough, i read it over and over again, especially against
NBA is ridicioulus, and seems more to stem out of the fact that hockey is much
smaller then basketball as a sport, then reality. Gotta change the narrative and game
so we are better... beginning to get boring.

I dont care what pain he was in, if you really are injured you cant play, if
you are on the ice you arent THAT injured.

Hes saying this for his ego, if he didnt have ego he would be quiet
so he gets his reward, with people swallowing this

 

[Ratsreign]

Yeah, I'm partly calling bullshit here.

Definitely some embellishment going on.

You cannot skate at any level, let alone the NHL level, with the injuries he has described, even if you are tough as nails. Plus he seems to be partying all week with the team just fine.

Kinda reminds me of the never ending enhancements to the legend of Lemieux and his back injuries. At this point, I fully expect some podcaster to come out and claim his back was so bad, his teammates had to bring to the ice in a wheelbarrow

I’d agree if the injury happened late in the season or during the playoffs.
The injury happened at four nations tourney. He sat out to heal from then until the playoffs.
It obviously progressed enough for him to be able to play through it.

 

[ThisIsMyAlibi]

McDavid couldn’t dream of doing this

 

[Allan92]

I’d agree if the injury happened late in the season or during the playoffs.
The injury happened at four nations tourney. He sat out to heal from then until the playoffs.
It obviously progressed enough for him to be able to play through it.

That's not what the quote implies though

 

[Mike C]

Before today I thought the adductor was a car part I had to get replaced every couple of years.

Nah man, it's the guy circling the park watching your kids play

 

[NotCommitted]

That's good 2 months between 4 nations and his first playoff game, I'm no doctor and have no idea what kind of timelines we are usually talking about with injuries like these but that sounds like a reasonable enough timeframe to at least get it to a point where you can play even if it's still holding you back, though the way Tkachuk talked about it made it sound like he was initially expecting to probably miss the post season.

Comparing across sports is stupid in general, in many sports you can't take the risk of playing through something because if it turns out you can't handle the load the team might end up in a really bad spot. Like let's say a soccer player tries to play through something and comes in as the last sub for remaining 15 minutes of the game and turns out he can't play after all, you're down a player, or if you have subs left, you wasted one and as there are only 5 allowed they are still precious. It was even 'worse' in that respect pre covid when it was only 3.

In hockey it's possible to manage load, players go out for <1 minute shifts and if at any point they need to stop, you might have to double shift someone and juggle the lines but you won't be playing the game 4v5.

I know jackshit about basketball but I can imagine it's insanely taxing on the body and most players being so tall they are practically in the freaks of nature category which I would guess doesn't really help, long limbs mean a lot of leverage.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

McDavid couldn’t dream of doing this

McDavid doesn't broadcast his injuries so there is no way to know.