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[Matthew Tkachuk] Leafs would be unbelievable if the team wasn't in Toronto

The fans are an inherit part of being a professional athlete, especially if you're a star player. Marner even said they are "treated like gods." You can't expect the fans to embrace you when things are going well, but shun them when things are going poorly.

Besides, this group seems to be the only one in the league that needs such treatment.
 
It's a result of their actions.
absolutely. This isn't on the fans at all, this is just veiled bragging from Tkachuk on playing in a desirable market where no one (relatively speaking) cares about hockey and they can live an easy life.

What matthew fails to acknowledge is without the hockey rabid torontos of the world he wouldnt have been able to exploit that career loophole.
 
The toxic nature of sport fandom is an interesting topic for sure. Naive to think it’s unique to Leafs but sure they are a good representative of it. What you have to realize is that the same toxic nature of entitled fans that take it too far is what leads to the players becoming mega rich with potentially 8 figure salaries career earnings that are capable of exceeding 9 figures. They’re two sides of the same coin. People just care a lot. A healthy relationship with sports is something I think a lot of people need to learn. The parasocial relationship with players is unacceptable for one. Gambling only makes it worse as people are putting a personal stake on outcomes. But the highest highs I’ve experienced as a sport fan would never mean anything without all the lows experienced along the way.
The current Leafs just SUCK. That's all there is to it! They are a bunch of losers.

"Ohhhh the pressure!!"

Some of you people need to spend more time in the real world, you'll understand what real pressure is.
 
The current Leafs just SUCK. That's all there is to it! They are a bunch of losers.

"Ohhhh the pressure!!"

Some of you people need to spend more time in the real world, you'll understand what real pressure is.
they don't suck. They're losers. Everyone knew that the game was over after the Seth Jones goal. No heart and they deserved that treatment at the end of the game.
 
The Leafs players have received a lot of love and hype. They rode that hype to get the biggest paydays possible.

The "vitriol" comes from their lacklustre performance on the ice, it wasn't there when the core was starting out. It's a result of their actions.
Are you even reading what I'm saying? I just said I understand where their anger is coming from. But that hype you talk about is still pressure, whether it's negative or positive.

Did you not see the Hockey News "Plan the Parade" cover? Toronto media and fans expected these guys to be a future dynasty before they even won a round of hockey. Again, ultimately it's up to the players, which is why I've been saying Matthews and Marner suck for years on here. But you have to see how those unrealistic expectations and added pressure makes an impact, which is why I'm also saying the Leaf fanbase and media suck too.

Everything about that team from the players to the management to the fans to the media sucks. That's why they're essentially the worst franchise in the league (outside of Buffalo, but that's another story) over the past 60 years.
 
The current Leafs just SUCK. That's all there is to it! They are a bunch of losers.

"Ohhhh the pressure!!"

Some of you people need to spend more time in the real world, you'll understand what real pressure is.

Again....thinking back to Mitch Williams. you ever have millions of people watch you do your job, critique you, harass you or threaten the lives of your or your family over you job performance?

They're still people. Just really visible and we'll paid.....people.

I relish the Leafs losing. But not their treatment.

Though with this I do say an off the cuff thank you to Leafs fans....cause do you honestly think you will be scoring McDavid now ROFL (not that I believed that would happen anyway ;))
 
The current Leafs just SUCK. That's all there is to it! They are a bunch of losers.

"Ohhhh the pressure!!"

Some of you people need to spend more time in the real world, you'll understand what real pressure is.
I was talking about sport fandom in general and not why the leafs lost the most recent series, I would appreciate leaving personal attacks or insinuations out of this.
 
So the Leafs would be unbelievable if they never faced the pressure of professional sports?
Mitch Marner could thrive if he quit and got a job at the Yarn Barn.
Auston Mathews could kill it during seniors aqua aerobics.
John Tavares could become a legendary garden gnome painter.
 
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Again....thinking back to Mitch Williams. you ever have millions of people watch you do your job, critique you, harass you or threaten the lives of your or your family over you job performance?

They're still people. Just really visible and we'll paid.....people.

I relish the Leafs losing. But not their treatment.

Though with this I do say an off the cuff thank you to Leafs fans....cause do you honestly think you will be scoring McDavid now ROFL
The Leafs didn't lose a close a game in OT to get bounced out of the playoffs.

They lost four of the last five, two of those were total blow outs at home!

They suck, they choke, they are awful. Hell, fans were still trying pump their tires when it was clear that the Leafs had nothing to give in game 7.

The arena was full and the cheapest tickets were what? $550? The support this team gets despite not being very good is unreal. The fans paid fortunes to support their team and they lay an egg of historical proportions and the problem is the fans?

I guess the fans are kind of like the Leafs: no spine.
 
Again....thinking back to Mitch Williams. you ever have millions of people watch you do your job, critique you, harass you or threaten the lives of your or your family over you job performance?

They're still people. Just really visible and we'll paid.....people.

I relish the Leafs losing. But not their treatment.

Though with this I do say an off the cuff thank you to Leafs fans....cause do you honestly think you will be scoring McDavid now ROFL
This is what Leaf fans don't get. Yeah it probably felt good to boo Mariner's disappearing ass and try to ding a tall boy off his noggin. But do you think McDavid watches his 4 Nations linemate go through that and thinks "that's the environment I want to play in"?

There might have actually been a reality where McDavid goes to Toronto as a UFA, but I really don't see that happening with how angry that fanbase and media is at the moment.
 
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its not trolling, its taunting and the NHL should step in. Players shouldn't be shitting on other fanbases publicly like this.

This isn't lighthearted ribbing. Leave it to the media, not the NHLPA

meh, I’m fine with it.

As a sens fan I loved Prust calling McLean a fat, bug eyed Walrus. Increase the hate.
 
Dear Lightning Team members,

I am so, so sorry for my fanatical exuberance this year. My expectations created too much pressure on you guys and I really let you down. Moving forward, I will tone it down and cheer a little less loud and expect much less so that you guys won't have the "pressure" of championship expectations from at least one less fan. I hope my contributions to the organization are appreciated as much as I appreciate you. It's okay to lose. I look forward to many more nights of holding hands and singing kumbaya together. Wins or losses do not matter as long as your feewings are ok. Let's hug it out - bro style.

Signed,
the quiet fan
 
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The Leafs didn't lose a close a game in OT to get bounced out of the playoffs.

They lost four of the last five, two of those were total blow outs at home!

They suck, they choke, they are awful. Hell, fans were still trying pump their tires when it was clear that the Leafs had nothing to give in game 7.

The support this team gets despite not being very good is unreal


Trust me...I don't support them "the team". But I will support them "the people". They for whatever reason don't have "it". Does that mean they deserve on a personal level what they get for it?
 
meh, I’m fine with it.

As a sens fan I loved Prust calling McLean a fat, bug eyed Walrus. Increase the hate.
thats not the same, the coaches are in the game, the fans aren't. There needs to be a line between player actively taunting a fanbase publicly. Who cares what they say provately. Its the publicly part i have issue with.

Even though he plays for the panthers, the leaf fans ( and everyother fanbase) pays him his money. He needs to show respect to the civilians. Its just pure classlessness from a classless organization.
 
Trust me...I don't support them "the team". But I will support them "the people". They for whatever reason don't have "it". Does that mean they deserve on a personal level what they get for it?
I am not saying that the guy who apparently doxx'd Marner yesterday was justified, same goes for the idiot who threw his jersey on the ice during play, that guy should never be allowed in an NHL rink ever again.

Let's stop looking at the worst case and using those to make generalities.

The Leafs lost because they are losers who struggle with any kind of adversity, it isn't about pressure. Anything else is BS.
 
The arena was full and the cheapest tickets were what? $550? The support this team gets despite not being very good is unreal. The fans paid fortunes to support their team and they lay an egg of historical proportions and the problem is the fans?
You should’ve seen previous years. The team can tank for Matthews/have constant non-playoff years and MLSE will still sell these games out.

It’s gotten to the point where I wish Torontonians had common sense. Sometimes the only way to send a message is to not go the games. Especially with ticket prices being what it’s at.
 
thats not the same, the coaches are in the game, the fans aren't. There needs to be a line between player actively taunting a fanbase publicly. Who cares what they say provately. Its the publicly part i have issue with.

Even though he plays for the panthers, the leaf fans ( and everyother fanbase) pays him his money. He needs to show respect to the civilians. Its just pure classlessness from a classless organization.
Lmao what a whiny soft entitled post.
 
You should’ve seen previous years. The team can tank for Matthews/have constant non-playoff years and MLSE will still sell these games out.

It’s gotten to the point where I wish Torontonians had common sense. Sometimes the only way to send a message is to not go the games. Especially with ticket prices being what it’s at.
I'm not sure MLSE's management would be intelligent enough to read those tea leaves.

They put Dubas in charge of things over Dale Hunter. Dale Hunter may not have worked out, but he had a proven track record, MLSE management wanted to look like smart rich white people by going with the whiz kid for some reason.

Yeah that worked out great didn't it?
 
I'm not sure MLSE's management would be intelligent enough to read those tea leaves.

They put Dubas in charge of things over Dale Hunter. Dale Hunter may not have worked out, but he had a proven track record, MLSE management wanted to look like smart rich white people by going with the whiz kid for some reason.

Yeah that worked out great didn't it?
I dont think management was worried about skin color while making decisions. Dumb comment
 
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Anyone who doesn't understand leafs fans frustration is just being obtuse or not worth explaining to at this point.
exactly

we aren't asking for a cup every year. It may seem that way NOW because of the built of futility and failure, but that's not it. Most of us get winning is hard, and sometimes comes down to a bounce or play.

For this iteration, it almost never comes down to that, it's nearly always embarassing (4-3 choke in the third period, shutout, 3-1 series choke, blown out on home ice). It's to the point where a decent amount of fans have given up on the team.

Speaking from personal experience they've done the same to me, as the game 7 losses have started to get less and less painful and more accepting. I know they aren't going to show up 99% of the time, so why waste my time and emotions either.

we fans look back at 93/94 and 99/02 with such fondness that you could argue it's seen as a cup win for some. I wasn't even alive back then but every fan I meet or interact with always gushes about how hard they played, how they never backed down or dissappeared and played till the very end.

That's something I can cheer for and am willing to go around the highs and lows for, but the current team is getting closer and closer to apathetic feelings for me and many others.
 
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Are Tkachuk and Matthews friends? Went through NTDP at same time. Both late birthdays, high picks in the 2016 draft, drafted to Canadian cities.
 
I feel like the Panthers players and coaches got together in the locker room and were brainstorming how to troll us even harder

Paul Maurice comes out and says it was close and a close game and they don't deserve the heat that they're gonna get

Marchand says "we had be-leaf" in the post-game talk with Biz and the crew. And then also says the guys don't deserve as much heat as the media is going to give them for this loss and that they're way better than before.

Tkachuk basically says the same thing
 
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I feel like the Panthers players and coaches got together in the locker room and were brainstorming how to troll us even harder

Paul Maurice comes out and says it was close and a close game and they don't deserve the heat that they're gonna get

Marchand says "we had be-leaf" in the post-game talk with Biz and the crew. And then also says the guys don't deserve as much heat as the media is going to give them for this loss and that they're way better than before.

Tkachuk basically says the same thing
Agreed and it’s absolutely hilarious
 

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