Matthew Tkachuk from Elbo Room via Spittin Chiclets

[ROLLT1DE]

How is who he supports for president relevant to what he said?

Because now we have to suffer through watching him get on his knees in the oval office when they bring the cup.

 

[Ratsreign]

MAGA isn't one side of the political spectrum.

It’s amazing he somehow has all of those qualities that you admire....
Perhaps “maga” people aren’t the evil monsters we’ve all been fearmongered into believing they are? Seriously, dude. It’s scary how people just blindly gobble up any bullshit being peddled by the obviously biased media. So much of what they say as fact has been proven to be misrepresentations, or half truths, if not outright lies. We all need to do better.

 

[pb1300]

matthew has personality? HAHAHAHA

And McDavid does? McDavid would sip espresso out of the cup with his pinky finger sticking up, probably in that quiet sushi bar they booked out in Miami, when they thought they’d win after Gm 6. Tkachuk has more personality in HIS pinky finger, than the whole Edmonton Oilers team. “HAHAHAHA”

 

[ReturnOfTheDrai]

And McDavid does? McDavid would sip espresso out of the cup with his pinky finger sticking up, probably in that quiet sushi bar they booked out in Miami, when they thought they’d win after Gm 6. Tkachuk has more personality in HIS pinky finger, than the whole Edmonton Oilers team. “HAHAHAHA”

Being a douchebag isn’t considered a personality.

 

[pb1300]

Being a douchebag isn’t considered a personality.

It’s more personality than a bot like McDavid.

 

[Hank Plank]

Being a douchebag isn’t considered a personality.

Evander Kane strongly disagrees.

 

[NYRnine94]

I don’t see that as a shot at McDavid. He seems to be saying McDavid is the one carrying that team.

Everything is a "shot" at someone else these days. It's funny

 

[NYRnine94]

Being a douchebag isn’t considered a personality.

Do you think athletes are nice guys? In sports, douchebags win championships. See how far the soft nice guy shit gets you when you're competing for championships and get back to us

 

[Greatzsky 99]

Are the Oilers having a greifing gatherings at elbo(s) up?

 

[PistolPete]

MAGA isn't one side of the political spectrum.

Merely a reference to it's association wirh conservatives/Republicans given Democrats/liberals aren't MAGA supporters

 

[Diglett]

Do people honestly believe falling on one side of the political spectrum or another is an indication of the person's moral character/personality?

You mention the things he does as if that must be some kind of rare exception.

Absolutely it does.

 

[PistolPete]

Absolutely it does.

Then perhaps you need to meet more people with different views as your own.

It's very unfortunate and sad that you believe that.

 

[Ratsreign]

Then perhaps you need to meet more people with different views as your own.

It's very unfortunate and sad that you believe that.

The Echo Chamber syndrome

 

[PistolPete]

The Echo Chamber syndrome

And youth.

I was of that mindset even during university but over time I realized there were genuinely good people on both sides and jerks on both sides- or all sides for those who hate the polar metaphor.

 

[PistolPete]

I reckon a glimpse into Panther's group dynamics would be fitting here:

"It can't be overstated, the character and ... I don't know if it's the right word, but the grace of each guy. If you came into the meal room, you wouldn't ... know ... who's ... who," Zito said, pounding his hands on the table for emphasis. "You didn't know who scored the winning goal. You didn't know who didn't play. I think that, as much as anything, is a testament to those guys and their character."

"That room that we have is so welcoming. Your personality fits almost no matter what it is. The more unusual your personality, the more you're going to fit in our room," Maurice said. "As long as you do those four or five things you need to do, everybody gets to be themselves."

What makes that chemistry work?

"That's all Barkov, truly," Maurice said.

"[Barkov] is like a magnet. You just find yourself gravitating towards him," Schmidt said. "You see what Cap does and it just kind of trickles its way all the way through the lineup. There's just no other way to do it. It's not like he's not a vocally imposing person. It's just, you need to do it because it feels like you have to do it for him."

Zito likened Barkov to a planet with "all the energy that comes from him" as a leader.

"It starts with Sasha," the GM said. "Paul's talked about this. I've talked about it. The players have talked about it. The only person who doesn't [get] talked about it is Sasha. How caring he is as a human and as a teammate. He makes you want to be a better person. So then it's easy to have the positive aspects of your personality come through. It's like he pulls it out of you."

Source:

Why the Panthers are the nicest 'rats' to win the Stanley Cup (twice)

Make it two titles in a row for Tkachuk, Barkov & Co., who are as gracious off the ice as they are mean on it.

www.espn.com

Not surprised by anything in the article.

This article could have been written about Gretzky and the 80s Oilers

One thing I find funny is how they make this distinction between on-ice and off-ice personality.

Sam Bennett raises money for orphaned animals, great. But the guy also plays in a manner that causes injuries to opponents- intentionally.

Being a P.O.S. on the ice is still being a P.O.S as a person.

An agitator is one thing, going after people's health os another

 

[Greatzsky 99]

Absolutely it does.

its almost an indicatior, especially here in sweden, where we have more parties

 

[Greatzsky 99]

Merely a reference to it's association wirh conservatives/Republicans given Democrats/liberals aren't MAGA supporters

This maybe clear thing up for you, matthew is a redneck

 

[Greatzsky 99]

My observation had been that successful organizations always start at the top.

I can't recall a successful team who was known to have horrible ownership and/or lousy hoxkey operations people.

Could the Winnipeg Jets ever become good wirh John Ferguson or Mike Smith at the helm? Leafs wirh Ballard? Blackhawks with Bill Wirtz?

I have always been interested in successful organizations and what rhey tend to have in common and a common thread is a top down structure where everyone knows and is held accountable to do their job properly, focused on what needs to be done to he sucxessful rather than get bogged down with mistakes.

I would think Maurice is successful because Zito et al let him do his thing without interference or making him believe one mistake and he's done

i should have added Zito and Viola, probabaly the most important thing is Viola
and dont forget Jagrs influence on Barkov

edit: zito also Credited Patrik Hornqvist arrival to the panthers to help build the culture

 

[Greatzsky 99]

MAGA BS aside (this pains me greatly as a fan...), he is by all accounts an exemplary human being off the ice. makes a fuss over and takes care of everybody in his life, whether that's trainers, hotel staff, rink managers, janitors, etc. apparently learned that from walt. i don't know him or follow him around but this narrative is pervasive. i've heard from maurice among many others.

whats your analysis of this

 

[PistolPete]

i should have added Zito and Viola, probabaly the most important thing is Viola
and dont forget Jagrs influence on Barkov

What did Jagr do for Barkov? Teach him some gambling tricks?

 

[Greatzsky 99]

What did Jagr do for Barkov? Teach him some gambling tricks?

Havent you read the story, how sacha credit him? Jagr work etic is legendsary 2nd to none
Sascha himself says he absorbed eberything from Jagr during 3 years, mentality and training
it was what formed him in NHL to become the leader he is, i will dig the article out, just hold on

Jagr's influence helped Barkov's rise with Panthers | NHL.com

'I wouldn't be in the same position ... without his arrival here,' Florida captain says of NHL icon

www.nhl.com