Player Discussion Mason Lohrei

[4ORRBRUIN]

Come on man. He’s not a wing.

Quinn Hughes was a -24 his second year in the league.

Are you comparing the two? I hope not wow

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Are you comparing the two? I hope not wow

Of course not. But how many people just keep throwing Lohrei’s plus minus as a barometer? And I’m not talking about Wally.

Offensive defensemen take a bit to adjust. It’s not rocket appliances.

 

[Gee Wally]

Of course not. But how many people just keep throwing Lohrei’s plus minus as a barometer? And I’m not talking about Wally.

Offensive defensemen take a bit to adjust. It’s not rocket appliances.

I dont subscribe heavily to plus minus at all. Id just like to see what he can do as a forward.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

Anyone know what the total number of empty next goals he has been on the ice for now? I know someone posted a month or so back, and the number was absurdly high then, I can only imagine it has grown

 

[BNHL]

Of course not. But how many people just keep throwing Lohrei’s plus minus as a barometer? And I’m not talking about Wally.

Offensive defensemen take a bit to adjust. It’s not rocket appliances.

The +- has merit. Is he playing his minutes against the other teams' first line, primarily? What's the Qcomp? Who is the next closest D in +-? Lohrei, I believe, has the worst +- in the entire NHL.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

Of course not. But how many people just keep throwing Lohrei’s plus minus as a barometer? And I’m not talking about Wally.

Offensive defensemen take a bit to adjust. It’s not rocket appliances.

You don't need to see his + - to see how bad he is back there. If he was putting up 50 points and generating constant 5 on5 offense then yes give him some rope.

Take away his PP points and what is he? a much less physical Peeke? I always look at how guys handle board battles and willingness to get that puck back in defending your goal.

He to often gives up on those battles, it's tough to watch.

I truly hope you guys are correct and I will gladly eat crow but I'm not banking on it.

 

[KnightofBoston]

I dont subscribe heavily to plus minus at all. Id just like to see what he can do as a forward.

I think it would be wasted potential

He might be a good wing, he could be a great defensemen.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

You don't need to see his + - to see how bad he is back there. If he was putting up 50 points and generating constant 5 on5 offense then yes give him some rope.

Take away his PP points and what is he? a much less physical Peeke? I always look at how guys handle board battles and willingness to get that puck back in defending your goal.

He to often gives up on those battles, it's tough to watch.

I truly hope you guys are correct and I will gladly eat crow but I'm not banking on it.

A much less physical Peeke? What in the actual f*** are you watching?

 

[Absurdity]

He's struggling with puck retrieval in his own end and outlet passes when contested, but it doesn't help that his supporting cast are third-pairing defensemen or fringe AHLers. Maybe a new coaching system could help next year, but I honestly wouldn't be against the Bruins trying him at forward.

He can be our Big Buff, Lanky Lowrider.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

A much less physical Peeke? What in the actual f*** are you watching?

Hockey games? What are you watching?

You hate Peeke so you are blinded. Peeke is always playing hard and takes and gives to win puck battles. It may not be pretty but GTFO here with Lohrei being even some what physical.

Thats half his problem on why he not a very good defenseman, the other half is his decision making.

Thats what Im watching.

 

[DKH]

Lohrei will basically be Krug. He will be an offensive defenseman between 40-60 points who should run the power play or be on it, and second pairing with a right shot defensive defenseman (I’d say F it and go with a super pair in mcavoy & Hampus)

The Bruins will add Lindholm & McAvoy, that will push Lohrei down against top offensive players, coupled with experience he will be very good

He’s a weapon and I would not deal him without a huge return in talent

 

[Wirelessbits]

Hockey games? What are you watching?

You hate Peeke so you are blinded. Peeke is always playing hard and takes and gives to win puck battles. It may not be pretty but GTFO here with Lohrei being even some what physical.

Thats half his problem on why he not a very good defenseman, the other half is his decision making.

Thats what Im watching.

We obvi disagree on his potential but I do agree that his two failings right now are his strength on puck battles and his decision makings when he sends it across the crease...he lives dangerously because he is very confident and you can see that when he makes those passes or is able to skate just enough ahead of a forechecker taking the puck up ice close to his goalie. He does not give up on puck battles, he is trying to get the puck from the outside so he can quickly move up ice. This isn't Forbert who is strong and ties it up for someone else to come along and take it. Lohrei is looking to take the puck out and up by either passing or skating.

He is not Krug in the sense that his frame and reach is much better, and I think his up-ice passing will be as good or better (those stretch passes are awesome; if only he had more than Pasta). And Krug had much more talent around him to get open in seams and catch those passes.

Lohrei is special and has the frame, skills, vision and confidence to become a top pairing offensive minded D-man for a long time...which is what is needed in today's fast NHL. I don't want him at wing, I want him using his skill and vision to bring the puck up and make goal scoring passes for others...and we are already seeing that he is given the leeway to skate all the way into the offensive zone...either that or he is driving the coaches crazy, lol. Either way I like it and this is the year to build that up with nothing to lose except more games and get a higher pick.

I'm ok with a bridge loan but bottom line, he needs to be a Bruin for a longtime so a 7x5 would be amazing but not sure he'd sign it...he knows he is one of the better players on this team right now and can be core to the future...

 

[Number8]

Mason Lohrei will be a big part of our future.

Of all of the negatives of our rough season, him getting a ton of ice time when the stakes are low is going to reap dividends. Not every young player comes in at an 6 and the progresses steadily to a 10. Particularly on defense.

And in the meantime, the Bruins have much bigger problems to address. Being concerned about Mason Lohrei's future right now is like the guy who's house is on fire castigating himself because he forgot to change his haircut appointment.

 

[Kalus]

Lorhei needs a mentality adjustment in his defensive zone. It seems like he is just thinking offense 100% of the time and cheats in his d zone for offense.

If the coaches can get through to him and he commits in the d zone to at least a passable level, he could be a legitimate second pairing guy in this league for the next five years.

 

[Dr Hook]

Mason Lohrei will be a big part of our future.

I hope so, and believe so as well. This season *should* be a big one for his development and I am not going to read a whole lot into his performance when the team around him is so bad and he is being asked to play above his head on a nightly basis. I am hopeful and confident that he goes into next year a better player for the experience and can settle into a role and usage that is more appropriate to where his game is. I am not worried about his so-called "failure to grow" this year or whatever. The season is packed with games and there really isn't time for he or anyone to sit down and analyze and develop specific practice routines to address issues. That will come in the summer and in camp.

 

[TD Charlie]

I hope so, and believe so as well. This season *should* be a big one for his development and I am not going to read a whole lot into his performance when the team around him is so bad and he is being asked to play above his head on a nightly basis. I am hopeful and confident that he goes into next year a better player for the experience and can settle into a role and usage that is more appropriate to where his game is. I am not worried about his so-called "failure to grow" this year or whatever. The season is packed with games and there really isn't time for he or anyone to sit down and analyze and develop specific practice routines to address issues. That will come in the summer and in camp.

I am not concerned about Lohrei so much as I am about the entire team. It's not just him, but it is definitely him.

Hopefully there's a big coming out party for a lot of these guys next season.

 

[Dr Hook]

I am not concerned about Lohrei so much as I am about the entire team. It's not just him, but it is definitely him.

Hopefully there's a big coming out party for a lot of these guys next season.

Agreed. I feel like as a fan it is easy to say player x or y is not improving, or not doing this or that, while ignoring the context. This team is really, really bad right now, and I am pretty sure morale in the room is not great. They've played a lot games and are probably worn out by all the defending and losing. It's hard for anyone to look good in that environment. So yes, it isn't just him, but it definitely is him at the same time- well said!

 

[Pia8988]

PP specialist

 

[mjhfb]

I can see Sweeney bringing in some character vet, maybe in Joki's spot or maybe #7, for the sole purpose of mentoring some of these young defenseman.

 

[Wirelessbits]

Lorhei needs a mentality adjustment in his defensive zone. It seems like he is just thinking offense 100% of the time and cheats in his d zone for offense.

If the coaches can get through to him and he commits in the d zone to at least a passable level, he could be a legitimate second pairing guy in this league for the next five years.

Agree. And I admit I really like his offensive mentality, but it shouldn't hurt his defense and he needs to find a balance...and that is what coaching is for. He has the talent, size, etc. Good point!

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Of course not. But how many people just keep throwing Lohrei’s plus minus as a barometer? And I’m not talking about Wally.

Offensive defensemen take a bit to adjust. It’s not rocket appliances.

Hughes was 21, not 24 like Lohrei is.

Forget the plus/minus numbers. How does he look to you? To me he looks dreadful defensively.

 

[PlayMakers]

Lorhei needs a mentality adjustment in his defensive zone. It seems like he is just thinking offense 100% of the time and cheats in his d zone for offense.

If the coaches can get through to him and he commits in the d zone to at least a passable level, he could be a legitimate second pairing guy in this league for the next five years.

I just think he needs experience. It didn't have to be in the NHL but it is what it is. He hasn't been a D all that long and the details of a D are missing. His stick position, the direction of his toe caps, his reads in odd man situations, his instincts on who to cover around the net... it's all wonky, but all fixable.

I agree with Dan, that he will be a Torey Krug type, without the physical limitations. A 60 point defenseman who wants to be a difference maker is a rare and beautiful thing.

 

[Babajingo]

Hughes was 21, not 24 like Lohrei is.

Forget the plus/minus numbers. How does he look to you? To me he looks dreadful defensively.

totally agree. He looks horrible without the puck. In this year, he is problem #56, I just hope he starts to show defensive improvement or find the next Chara to pair with him.

 

[DKH]

I just think he needs experience. It didn't have to be in the NHL but it is what it is. He hasn't been a D all that long and the details of a D are missing. His stick position, the direction of his toe caps, his reads in odd man situations, his instincts on who to cover around the net... it's all wonky, but all fixable.

I agree with Dan, that he will be a Torey Krug type, without the physical limitations. A 60 point defenseman who wants to be a difference maker is a rare and beautiful thing.

Agree Bill, obviously Lohrei and Krug aren’t same height and I understand those here who don’t watch the games may no that, but they are offensive defenseman who are looking to make plays. Lohrei will get better as he works with assistant coach Leach

There is a lot to like and I lot to work with.

 

[Hookslide]

I just think he needs experience. It didn't have to be in the NHL but it is what it is. He hasn't been a D all that long and the details of a D are missing. His stick position, the direction of his toe caps, his reads in odd man situations, his instincts on who to cover around the net... it's all wonky, but all fixable.

I agree with Dan, that he will be a Torey Krug type, without the physical limitations. A 60 point defenseman who wants to be a difference maker is a rare and beautiful thing.

He is not a physical defenseman.