Movies: Marvel Cinematic Universe Discussion - Part 4

[Smelling Salt]

Wow

 

[beowulf]

So the new animated Spider-Man show is not cannon MCU, interesting.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Marvel has just cancelled a bunch of movies over the weekend

 

[beowulf]

Marvel has just cancelled a bunch of movies over the weekend

Just saw this but you link to nothing? I know some Marvel tv shows have been paused or cancelled but did not find any mention of movies being cancelled.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Just saw this but you link to nothing? I know some Marvel tv shows have been paused or cancelled but did not find any mention of movies being cancelled.

Emerging awesome posted a video. Mostly TV but he mentioned a few movies that were in development have been nuked as well. Ones that had been listed phase 7 or 8. None of the movies were considered tent poles.

Edit

The movie I was wanted to see was the Cavill movie they announced a few months ago. It has already been cancelled

 

[beowulf]

Emerging awesome posted a video. Mostly TV but he mentioned a few movies that were in development have been nuked as well. Ones that had been listed phase 7 or 8. None of the movies were considered tent poles.

Edit

The movie I was wanted to see was the Cavill movie they announced a few months ago. It has already been cancelled

I keep hearing some saying Blade is cancelled and others saying it is just paused. wonder what the plane is for that. I think they are really going to move into the mutants now and the blending of two or three universes and we will see less of the Avengers peeps over time.

 

[Jumptheshark]

I keep hearing some saying Blade is cancelled and others saying it is just paused. wonder what the plane is for that. I think they are really going to move into the mutants now and the blending of two or three universes and we will see less of the Avengers peeps over time.

Ali who was suppose to be Blade says he is no longer involved in the movie. It is listed as being in development but no one is attached to it

 

[barriers]

What Marvel movie was Cavill signed to and green-lit? None of the TV shows cancelled were far along in production and no movies seem to be cancelled.

Do you have any link or quote from Ali saying he is no longer in the movie? I'm not confiedent it ever gets made but the last update I see was from November and Feige directly said Ali was still attached

 

[Jumptheshark]

What Marvel movie was Cavill signed to and green-lit? None of the TV shows cancelled were far along in production and no movies seem to be cancelled.

Do you have any link or quote from Ali saying he is no longer in the movie? I'm not confiedent it ever gets made but the last update I see was from November and Feige directly said Ali was still attached

look on line around October 24 of last year when the director jumped ship and pre production stopped cold

 

[barriers]

look on line around October 24 of last year when the director jumped ship and pre production stopped cold

from November 12

Mahershala Ali’s Blade Movie Isn’t Dead Yet — He “Will Make It To The MCU” Says Kevin Feige

As translated and reported by Variety, when asked about the status of Mahershala Ali's long-in-the-works MCU project, Feige was quick to dispel the notion that a lack of release date meant that the movie had been shelved for good. “We are committed to Blade,” the studio boss declaratively stated. “We love the character. We love Mahershala’s take on him. And rest assured: whenever we change direction with a project, or are still figuring out how it fits into our schedule, we let the audience know. You’re all up to date on what’s happening. But I can tell you that the character will indeed make it to the MCU.”

Stop making shit up

 

[Devilmademedoit]

from November 12

Mahershala Ali’s Blade Movie Isn’t Dead Yet — He “Will Make It To The MCU” Says Kevin Feige


Stop making shit up

I was given the impression Ali was done with the Blade movie as well.. ignore what is said and pay attention to what they do.

 

[beowulf]

I was given the impression Ali was done with the Blade movie as well.. ignore what is said and pay attention to what they do.

It has been confusing with the way Marvel is shuffling things so try and course correct the MCU. Last I read is that it was paused, but will still be made, and it was removed from 2025 release and not given a new date.

 

[Mrfenn92]

MCU is off the rails.

 

[NyQuil]

I just watched Black Widow again and I think it's getting to be a bit underrated.

The banter is good, the intro and intro credits are one of the better ones in an MCU film, and the stunt, vehicle and hand-to-hand combat sequences are well-choreographed. It also has a heart.

It's interesting timing for the film because of course Taskmaster can imitate the signature moves of all the Avengers and does so for the more ardent fans among us. Taskmaster wouldn't be as interesting an antagonist without familiarity with the Avengers at this point.

Red Guardian finally gets his fight with Captain America when Taskmaster is pounding away at him with the shield.

All of the acting performances are solid.

It gets a lot of knocks for the quality of the CGI and special effects but that's just window dressing anyway. There are far worse films in the MCU with far better special effects.

 

[Holden Caulfield]

I just watched Black Widow again and I think it's getting to be a bit underrated.

The banter is good, the intro and intro credits are one of the better ones in an MCU film, and the hand-to-hand combat sequences are well-choreographed. It also has a heart.

It's interesting timing for the film because of course Taskmaster can imitate the signature moves of all the Avengers and does so for the more ardent fans among us. Taskmaster wouldn't be as interesting an antagonist without familiarity of the Avengers at this point.

Red Guardian finally gets his fight with Captain America when Taskmaster is pounding away at him with the shield.

All of the acting performances are solid.

It gets a lot of knocks for the quality of the CGI and special effects but that's just window dressing anyway. There are far worse films in the MCU with far better special effects.

I really think the biggest problem with Black Widow was how badly Disney/Marvel screwed up the release. The combo of Disney+/theatre, the Scarlett lawsuit and all that just bungled the release so badly that people were writing it off before release. COVID obviously played a part in that whole fiasco as well. But overall that is fairly decent. Pugh and Harbour were solid in it for sure, really helped carry it.

Wouldn't rank it near the top of MCU, but it's nowhere near the bottom like IM2, IM3, Thor 2, and for me Civil War (which to me is still the best premise and the most bungled execution of the MCU).

 

[NyQuil]

Wouldn't rank it near the top of MCU, but it's nowhere near the bottom like IM2, IM3, Thor 2, and for me Civil War (which to me is still the best premise and the most bungled execution of the MCU).

I liked Civil War, I think because I like the premise of a regular guy taking down the Avengers.

It's pretty tough to come up for a reason for the Avengers to fight each other without mind control.

 

[Holden Caulfield]

I liked Civil War, I think because I like the premise of a regular guy taking down the Avengers.

It's pretty tough to come up for a reason for the Avengers to fight each other without mind control.

For me it's just the ending. Baron Zemo was secondary to the whole thing. The idea was freedom vs security. Where do you draw the line? How do they react. Who has the power and the right to unleash superheroes. They create alot of collatoral damage. The first half was the amazing and compelling.

The ending was basically the same thing as the DCU "Martha" thing, IMO. You killed my parents, even though i already found out you had no control over your actions I'm gonna kill Cap and you. Like I get the emotional aspect of it, but his parents also been dead for decades. Idk, it just didn't click for me. And then they just kinda abandon the core premise of the movie for revenge and they stop any pretense of figuring out the core problems they were facing. Just didn't like the way it was wrapped up and it kinda spoiled the wrong thing for me.

I know it's a minority opinion on that movie.

 

[KallioWeHardlyKnewYe]

I just watched Black Widow again and I think it's getting to be a bit underrated.

The banter is good, the intro and intro credits are one of the better ones in an MCU film, and the stunt, vehicle and hand-to-hand combat sequences are well-choreographed. It also has a heart.

It's interesting timing for the film because of course Taskmaster can imitate the signature moves of all the Avengers and does so for the more ardent fans among us. Taskmaster wouldn't be as interesting an antagonist without familiarity with the Avengers at this point.

Red Guardian finally gets his fight with Captain America when Taskmaster is pounding away at him with the shield.

All of the acting performances are solid.

It gets a lot of knocks for the quality of the CGI and special effects but that's just window dressing anyway. There are far worse films in the MCU with far better special effects.

I am pretty low on it. (#39 of 47 MCU movies and shows) I don't think of it as bad as much as I think it is completely forgettable. But it also came out at the weirdest time and as one of the first "misses" I think that maybe made it feel worse than it is.

But this review makes me curious about a rewatch. My gut is that you're right and it plays better now with the benefits of time ...

 

[NyQuil]

For me it's just the ending. Baron Zemo was secondary to the whole thing. The idea was freedom vs security. Where do you draw the line? How do they react. Who has the power and the right to unleash superheroes. They create alot of collatoral damage. The first half was the amazing and compelling.

The ending was basically the same thing as the DCU "Martha" thing, IMO. You killed my parents, even though i already found out you had no control over your actions I'm gonna kill Cap and you. Like I get the emotional aspect of it, but his parents also been dead for decades. Idk, it just didn't click for me. And then they just kinda abandon the core premise of the movie for revenge and they stop any pretense of figuring out the core problems they were facing. Just didn't like the way it was wrapped up and it kinda spoiled the wrong thing for me.

I know it's a minority opinion on that movie.

Yeah it was a bit contrived there at the end.

I think it made pretty good use of the existing MCU lore though.

I think the BARF sequence at the beginning was a clever way of showing to the audience how much their deaths had affected him psychologically.

The fact that Cap knew his parents were murdered and never told him was the ultimate betrayal.

Anyway, it was a bit of a set piece to set piece kind of film like the Avengers as opposed to a completely coherent story so it takes a bit of a hit for that.