Salary Cap: Martin Necas Next Contract Thread

[Foppa2118]

I'm gonna guess $10.5M x 7.

I think the Avs will do 8 years and/or $11M though too with a good playoffs. They tend to prefer 7 years though outside of long time core players.

 

[Drury_Sakic]

Anything under 10 a year is a steal. Anything under 10.5 is a good deal. Anything under 11is fair. If it gets close to 11.5-12 you worry unless the Avs challenge for a cup.

 

[Bender]

I believe it will be something like 8 X $9.75M maximum.

He doesn't have the numbers over several seasons to justify more, imo.

If you look at Guentzel's track record over the last 3 years (7 X $9M) and compare that to Necas, it's not close.

So maybe he'll get a bit more because of his age and the fit on this team but I don't think he gets $10M or $11M+.

 

[Avs_19]

I imagine it'll be a pretty big number, maybe close to double digits. I have to see him in the playoffs on the Avs before going too in depth into what may or may not be a smart/good deal. Love what I've seen from him so far and this season he looks better than ever on both the Avs and Canes but.....playoffs.

 

[Metallo]

Not going to reply to a poll were the ranges are "max-min" instead of the normal person "min-max".

 

[expatriatedtexan]

Not going to reply to a poll were the ranges are "max-min" instead of the normal person "min-max".

I mean... personally, I think the max I would pay is about $75. But that's only because I'm already blowing my money on ESPN+, Sling.tv (Blue) with the additional sports addon to get NHLN. Then when the playoffs begin and TNT starts using TruTV, I have to switch to the Blue + Orange package in order to get it, because you can damn well bet every f***ing one of the Avs games is going to start on an alternate channel because they never schedule enough time for the east coast games to wrap up before the west coast games begin.

f*** NY and Toronto. Don't start west coast games before 7PM PST. How about we allow folks on the west coast to get out of work and possibly grab a bite to eat before racing to the arena for a puckdrop. f***ers need to stay up later, not require the west coast skip out of work early to watch their own f'in games.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Not going to reply to a poll were the ranges are "max-min" instead of the normal person "min-max".

Is that worse or what about the photo in the OP? He seriously couldn’t find a non-underwear photo?

 

[arun]

Under ten please

 

[Linds]

I believe it will be something like 8 X $9.75M maximum.

He doesn't have the numbers over several seasons to justify more, imo.

If you look at Guentzel's track record over the last 3 years (7 X $9M) and compare that to Necas, it's not close.

So maybe he'll get a bit more because of his age and the fit on this team but I don't think he gets $10M or $11M+.

Yes, but the cap is going to explode, and I don't think they want to wait until mid to late next season to get an extension done because he's more than likely going to keep putting up solid numbers with Mackinnon. Imo I think Cmac would cave and give him an extra 1 to 1.5m per year instead of risking losing him for nothing. I'd say he gets 10 to 11/ year if he's willing to sign 7 to 8 years. Anything under 10 is a steal if he keeps producing

 

[lionsDen]

9-11 is way to far should have split anything north of 9million by 1 million

 

[Foppa2118]

Yes, but the cap is going to explode, and I don't think they want to wait until mid to late next season to get an extension done because he's more than likely going to keep putting up solid numbers with Mackinnon. Imo I think Cmac would cave and give him an extra 1 to 1.5m per year instead of risking losing him for nothing. I'd say he gets 10 to 11/ year if he's willing to sign 7 to 8 years. Anything under 10 is a steal if he keeps producing

Yeah, this is how I view it as well. These big cap jumps the next two years will see contracts soar.

Drai set the market at $14M, but that was under a smaller cap, and he's not even the best player on his own team, let alone the NHL. McDavid will probably set the market a tad higher.

The tier below the McDavid's/Drai's/MacKinnon's/Matthews are the Mikko's and probably Marner's. They'll probably sign in the $12-13M range. Perhaps more if they go to the top bidder on the open market.

Necas is definitely in the tier right below that. Doesn't seem like he'd be multiple tiers below, so it's hard to see him getting $3M or so less than Mikko and Marner, if he continues playing well.

Feels like Necas will get in the $10M+ range, but we'll see.

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

Yeah, this is how I view it as well. These big cap jumps the next two years will see contracts soar.

Drai set the market at $14M, but that was under a smaller cap, and he's not even the best player on his own team, let alone the NHL. McDavid will probably set the market a tad higher.

The tier below the McDavid's/Drai's/MacKinnon's/Matthews are the Mikko's and probably Marner's. They'll probably sign in the $12-13M range. Perhaps more if they go to the top bidder on the open market.

Necas is definitely in the tier right below that. Doesn't seem like he'd be multiple tiers below, so it's hard to see him getting $3M or so less than Mikko and Marner, if he continues playing well.

Feels like Necas will get in the $10M+ range, but we'll see.

If he keeps playing like this it will be 10mil, but thats okay to me, because if he plays like this, he is worth more than Rantanen..

 

[Spilot23]

CMac : "You will sign this summer or you will be gone too !"

 

[CobraAcesS]

CMac : "You will sign this summer or you will be gone too !"

Some things don't need to be said to be reality.

 

[Sea Eagles]

Pay the man what he's worth. Look at his chemistry in just a few games !

 

[expatriatedtexan]

If he keeps playing like this it will be 10mil, but thats okay to me, because if he plays like this, he is worth more than Rantanen..

To me, there is just a huge difference between paying a player who is good as Necas is 10M/season on a new deal because he effects the ice and game in so many areas. He's always moving, can easily create separation with his quickness, he's fast as F at full speed, can be solo breakout artist or play run and gun with a teammate. He's just so much more well rounded than Mikko at all aspects of the game other than one-timers...and to be honest, Marty has a pretty sneaky hard shot.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

Pay the man what he's worth. Look at his chemistry in just a few games !

I think I was the first and loudest to continuously scream, "Pay the man what it takes to keep him" about Nuke.

I would have been wiser to go along your route and say pay the man what he's worth. Nuke would still have gotten his 6.125M, but nobody on God's green earth should have been shouting that about Mikko making 12-14M on a new deal.

I hope Mikko goes on to prove me wrong and continues his previous paces... but I honestly don't see that happening with any team that doesn't have MacKinnon and Makar. It sucks to say but I think those two shined him up on a level approaching what Jumbo Joe did with Cheechoo. I'm not saying Mikko is as bad at hockey as Jonathan was, but I am saying he's no where near as good as most (myself included) have believed at previous points.

Now for Necas..."Pay the man what it takes to keep him!". Just kidding. Sort of. I would hate to pay him anything near approaching what Mikko was asking for, even though I feel he deserves that kind of money more. I would sign him to 8x10M today if he would take it. I think there is a decent chance if the Avs get bounced in the first round we could get him for cheaper. But...let's pretend we pop off and make it to the Conference Finals or further... There's a real chance he's looking for more than 10M at that point if he's been a driver of that success. We could end up paying more for him by waiting until the summer to sign a new deal.

The danger though...Mitts looked damn good when he first started as well.

 

[Sea Eagles]

I think I was the first and loudest to continuously scream, "Pay the man what it takes to keep him" about Nuke.

I would have been wiser to go along your route and say pay the man what he's worth. Nuke would still have gotten his 6.125M, but nobody on God's green earth should have been shouting that about Mikko making 12-14M on a new deal.

I hope Mikko goes on to prove me wrong and continues his previous paces... but I honestly don't see that happening with any team that doesn't have MacKinnon and Makar. It sucks to say but I think those two shined him up on a level approaching what Jumbo Joe did with Cheechoo. I'm not saying Mikko is as bad at hockey as Jonathan was, but I am saying he's no where near as good as most (myself included) have believed at previous points.

Now for Necas..."Pay the man what it takes to keep him!". Just kidding. Sort of. I would hate to pay him anything near approaching what Mikko was asking for, even though I feel he deserves that kind of money more. I would sign him to 8x10M today if he would take it. I think there is a decent chance if the Avs get bounced in the first round we could get him for cheaper. But...let's pretend we pop off and make it to the Conference Finals or further... There's a real chance he's looking for more than 10M at that point if he's been a driver of that success. We could end up paying more for him by waiting until the summer to sign a new deal.

The danger though...Mitts looked damn good when he first started as well.

Yep, spot on to all the above mate. The risk of prolonging a signing would be if he explodes, and all of a sudden is out of our price range.

Regarding Rants - I recall him playing VERY well for us when Mack was out (even at center), I think he'll be okay.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

Yep, spot on to all the above mate. The risk of prolonging a signing would be if he explodes, and all of a sudden is out of our price range.

Regarding Rants - I recall him playing VERY well for us when Mack was out (even at center), I think he'll be okay.

He absolutely picked the team up, placed it on his back and just slogged through basically entire month where he was the only actual top six player in our top six. And he did it as a center.

That kind of absolute dominance, and they did everything in their power to never use him as a center again. Even though we were struggling so terribly.

If it was Bednar's decesion, he should be fired. If it was Mikko's decision, I can't completely blame him... players are allowed to have preferences. But then again, HC's are allowed to make the roster.

Anyways, I really do wish him success but I am not at all upset that it could happen elsewhere. I just felt there were way too many warning signs flashing to resign him.

 

[Bonzai12]

Is Necas’ agent really going to be a major a-hole with these negotiations?

I’ve seen a few of you guys mentioning Carolina was at an impasse with him.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

Is Necas’ agent really going to be a major a-hole with these negotiations?

I’ve seen a few of you guys mentioning Carolina was at an impasse with him.

I think the big thing here is that Carolina really likes their chances this seasson and think Mikko could push them over the top.

I also can see where their could have been some hesitation about signing Necas to a long term huge dollar contract for them... especially considering their owner actually is a cheap skate unlike ours who only refuses to pay for anything other than salary.

Regardless of what happened between Necas and Carolina, I'm really thankful he's our problem now and Mikko is theirs.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Is Necas’ agent really going to be a major a-hole with these negotiations?

I’ve seen a few of you guys mentioning Carolina was at an impasse with him.

I don’t believe the contract was going to be the major issue.

The biggest issue is that he wasn’t a fit with Brindamour and Rod the Bod wasn’t going anywhere. Necas hated the style and subsequently the role he was being asked to play.

 

[Foppa2118]

I don’t believe the contract was going to be the major issue.

The biggest issue is that he wasn’t a fit with Brindamour and Rod the Bod wasn’t going anywhere. Necas hated the style and subsequently the role he was being asked to play.

More reasons to be optimistic about Marty's fit with the Avs, and that they might even be able to get more out of him. It's the opposite here. I think he even said something about it being a fun style to play recently iirc?

 

[expatriatedtexan]

I don’t believe the contract was going to be the major issue.

The biggest issue is that he wasn’t a fit with Brindamour and Rod the Bod wasn’t going anywhere. Necas hated the style and subsequently the role he was being asked to play.

Holy shit, I'm really starting to feel bad for Mikko.