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Value of: Martin Hanzal to Montreal

Halla

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hockeyheadlines said:
Juulsen is not a B prospect and he'd never be involved in a trade for Hanzal.
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he isnt an A prospect. that would be sergachev.
also never? put away the crystal ball now. ARZ needs D prospects, if montreal wants the 6'5 shutdown center is gonna cost more than DD + 2nd
 
WrinkledPossum

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Halla said:
he isnt an A prospect. that would be sergachev.
also never? put away the crystal ball now. ARZ needs D prospects, if montreal wants the 6'5 shutdown center is gonna cost more than DD + 2nd
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With OEL, Golisgoski, and Murphy locked up and the addition and good play from Chychrun, DeAngelo, Wood the Coyotes don't really 'need' D prospects. The team is now in a situation where they just want the best, most NHL ready prospect available. The Habs have an A+ prospect in Sergachev, then a few B's.
 
Tripod

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People using points to gauge Hanzal's value, obviously have no idea of what he actually brings.

And team that acquires him is so he can go against the other teams top lines and shut them down....allowing your other lines easier matchups to score.

Not saying Montreal will pay the price, but IF HE IS HEALTHY, someone will.
 
hockeyheadlines

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Halla said:
he isnt an A prospect. that would be sergachev.
also never? put away the crystal ball now. ARZ needs D prospects, if montreal wants the 6'5 shutdown center is gonna cost more than DD + 2nd
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We need a playmaker more than a shutdown C. Juulsen is an A prospect and we won't trade him for Hanzal.
 
jacks*

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Halla said:
he isnt an A prospect. that would be sergachev.
also never? put away the crystal ball now. ARZ needs D prospects, if montreal wants the 6'5 shutdown center is gonna cost more than DD + 2nd
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Juulsen is as much as an A prospect as Kapanen is.
While the cost for Hanzal is the question .Most knowledgeable hockey fans realize that
the asking of Sergachev would be to much.
 
Beendair Donedat

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Probably a couple of seconds and a good prospect would be my guess.

I'd offer the 2017 and 2018 2nd rounders and Charles Hudon.

Habs get a center with size and grit for the the second line.

Coyotes get a couple picks and a good prospect.
 
biturbo19

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Hanzal seems like a natural fit for the type of team the Habs want to build for a run right now. He'd be a great matchup center for a team that's building its chances around a stud goaltender like Price. Of course, there's always the risk he doesn't stay healthy himself...but if he does, Hanzal is the type of player who makes life miserable for the opposition and will take a physical toll on whoever he's matched up against - especially over a long playoff series.

Galchenyuk-Plekanec-Hanzal-Mitchell down the middle is solid for what a Therrien team in front of Price is going to try to do.


Demand for a player like Hanzal will be there though...he won't be available for spare change. The cost probably starts with the Habs 1st, which would be expected to be fairly late. Probably add a 2nd or 3rd tier prospect.

Actually, i'd be kind of curious if the Yotes would have any interest in Fucale as a piece. Doubt many Habs fans would lose much sleep in parting with him; the lustre is very much worn off there...But Arizona don't have a lot coming down the pipeline in net right now, and there's always a chance they see the pedigree there and think they can pull another Dubnyk out of the hat. :dunno:

Otherwise, probably a prospect that hurts a bit more for the Habs...plus the previously mentioned 1st.
 

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If DD goes back the other way, then a 1rst + B prospect (Andrighetto, Hudon, Fucale, etc.) would work well for the Habs. Their window is now so upgrading their NHL roster while giving up a very insignificant piece of the farm is worth it. Freeing cap space by offloading DD is the key here. Hanzal is a band-aid for Galchenyuk right now. If Hanzal gets hurt eventually, then that'll free up some more cap space come trade deadline and the Habs will try to bolster their roster even more.
 
Kraken Jokes

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Habs fans who don't think Hanzal will help our offence, despite being more of a middle-6 level scorer, are short-sighted. His size will help us win offensive battles and keep the zone longer, he'll win key draws, he'll support our D and help us break out faster.
 
Kudo Shinichi

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jacks said:
With the injury to Chucky i'd be willing to to that as long as like you say we can talk to Hanzel about a contract extension.
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Hanzel is a 3rd C.
We already have Plekanec, DD, McCarron and Danault who can fill that role.
We might trade to get Hanzel for a playoff run, but I highly doubt we resign him.
 
Kaibur

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biturbo19 said:
Hanzal seems like a natural fit for the type of team the Habs want to build for a run right now. He'd be a great matchup center for a team that's building its chances around a stud goaltender like Price. Of course, there's always the risk he doesn't stay healthy himself...but if he does, Hanzal is the type of player who makes life miserable for the opposition and will take a physical toll on whoever he's matched up against - especially over a long playoff series.

Galchenyuk-Plekanec-Hanzal-Mitchell down the middle is solid for what a Therrien team in front of Price is going to try to do.


Demand for a player like Hanzal will be there though...he won't be available for spare change. The cost probably starts with the Habs 1st, which would be expected to be fairly late. Probably add a 2nd or 3rd tier prospect.

Actually, i'd be kind of curious if the Yotes would have any interest in Fucale as a piece. Doubt many Habs fans would lose much sleep in parting with him; the lustre is very much worn off there...But Arizona don't have a lot coming down the pipeline in net right now, and there's always a chance they see the pedigree there and think they can pull another Dubnyk out of the hat. :dunno:

Otherwise, probably a prospect that hurts a bit more for the Habs...plus the previously mentioned 1st.
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I doubt there's any interest in Fucale.

Adin Hill (20) and Marek Langhamer (22) are probably capable of carrying the load for Tucson from here out, and will likely be the tandem next season. Domingue (24) is signed as the backup to Smith. That doesn't really leave any room for Fucale, except as the ECHL starter for the Rapid City Rush.
 
Leon Lucius Black

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KawaYui said:
Hanzel is a 3rd C.
We already have Plekanec, DD, McCarron and Danault who can fill that role.
We might trade to get Hanzel for a playoff run, but I highly doubt we resign him.
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Hanzal is easily a 2nd line C.

He's put up over a .60 PPG pace the last three years on a team that is brutal offensively, on top of that he's very good defensively, can win draws and can match up against other bigger centres.

DD sucks, Danault has cooled off after a hot start and McCarron isn't even a 4th line C at this point. Hanzal would help the Habs a lot and he's getting underrated badly around here.
 
Benstheman

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ck26 said:
A conditional 1st? Enjoy watching Martin Hanzal play for the New York Rangers.
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I would look for a deal that includes Hanzal and Duclair.

DD would be in the mix (cap dump)
Andrighetto
1st is a must
one of Hudon/Scherbak
 
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