Try harderI feel like you could get Mitch with 2 ATVs, a boat, some jet skis, and free lululemon for life. Golf membership. Oakleys negotiable.
How many players does St. Louis have from those trades?It will be interesting to see how Marner and Matthews do under Berube.
As a Blues fan, I tend to get excited when the TML's start making trades or giving up on players. I learned to hate the TML's while growing up watching the old Norris Division clashes.....man that was the epic "Black and Blue" division.
Anyone remember that Tampa was in the Division their first season? That was a little weird.
When you look at the last 20 years of trades between the Blues and TML's
The Leaf's have given up: Steen, Cola, Gunnarson, Jokinen, Abramov, Gaudette, 2023 1st, 2023 3rd, 2024, 2nd, 2008 3rd, Borgman, and Soshkanov
They have received: Lee Stempniak, ROR, Accari, Kyle Clifford, Jamel Mayers, Roman Polak, Johnny Pohl, Schmaltz, J Lindstrom, a 4th 2019 and 6th in 2016
Toronto has one player left in their organization as a result of these trades, Nik Abruzzese.....thats it.
The player, they received in trades from St. Louis, that was the most productive for Toronto, Roman Polak, brought back a nice haul from San Jose, and Toronto used those picks to trade for F. Anderson and S Durzi.....and Toronto quickly traded Durzi.....
Its one cluster freak after another with Toronto.
Nylander signed before Matthews and Marner.As as hockey fan, I like players who leave a little on the table for the team because they want to win. What I don't respect is players who go after max deals and put hand cuffs on the GM for trying to ice a complete roster that has a chance to win.
$10M or $12M for 8 years. $80M vs $96M. I chuckle when they talk about missing out on $16M but they got $80M. And that's not including what he got on the current deal.
Nylander was extremely underpaid because Tavares, Matthews, Marner got their money first. Is it Marner's turn to take the Nylander underpaid treatment? I'm curious to see how much Marner wants to stay with the Leafs and bring that cup back.
People know Marner is good, the problem is Matthews is better and Nylander is just as good, and we've paid big players WAY too much money which affects our ability to develop a deep roster. Leafs fans are done with the idea of 3 players making $10+ million per year, and we know Marner is going to ask for an increase. We need to use the money to fill the gaps we currently have.
$100m/8y=$12.5m AAV
Unfortunately I think this is exactly what Toronto re signs him for.
They let him walk to UFA. I don't want him back at what he will command AAV.Mmmm, this is a very murky situation for the Leafs.
They really can't afford to loose Marner for nothing but they surely won't trade him at the deadline, if the Leafs are in the playoffs (and they'll be).
I'm not sure Marner wants to stay in Toronto long term.
He's a local boy and has been a whipping boy too for their repeated playoffs lack of success.
He seemed to just push further what seem to be a inevitable divorce last summer.
Which might be good for himself, but not so for the team, he has put them in a precarious situation..
Toronto is almost a contender if they spent money from Marner and Tavares towards depth that shows up in the playoffs. They make the playoffs every year, they can easily make the playoffs. But contender? It’s hard with their contract structure if their stars don’t perform well in the playoffs. I don’t see how re-signing Marner would solve anything.Maybe he wants a Stanley Cup?
If so, he could take a sweetheart deal and move on to a contender.
That would be ideal.Maybe he wants a Stanley Cup?
If so, he could take a sweetheart deal and move on to a contender.
Tavares isn't a problem. I'd love to keep him around on a very low AAV deal. The guy gave up the C.......clearly cares about the team.Toronto is almost a contender if they spent money from Marner and Tavares towards depth that shows up in the playoffs. They make the playoffs every year, they can easily make the playoffs. But contender? It’s hard with their contract structure if their stars don’t perform well in the playoffs. I don’t see how re-signing Marner would solve anything.
I agree his contract isn't as deleterious as Marner's contract but you cannot deny JT doesn't really live up to his contract at his age, and that's to be expected. When he gets re-signed at a much lower AAV that'll free up money for depth which can put Leafs over the edge in the PO's imo.That would be ideal.
Jeez, I can't remember ever wanting to see a "star" player on my favoured team go somewhere else.
I guess I've become a Marner "hater"? Weird, never been that type of fan or poster on here. I just really don't have a good gut feeling about his next contract, and his style of play and how that impacts the entire game style, and doubling down on what isn't working.
Tavares isn't a problem. I'd love to keep him around on a very low AAV deal. The guy gave up the C.......clearly cares about the team.