Value of: Marner
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Americanadian
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How many legitimate top 6 power forwards are there in the league? How many of those are available?
leafsfan5
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New Jersey shouldn't be interested tbh. You guys already have a great thing going and your core players are locked up relatively cheap, Marner would disturb that
Keep going with what you have and it'll win a cup in the next couple of years
Duchene's value might be a mid round pick. That's pretty bad value for Marner.
Yeah, NJ doesn't need to pay a premium for the more expensive version of Bratt.
Marner is worth a decent chunk purely because of his floor raising ability for pushing a team into playoff territory.
elite at everything (regular season)
apologetic to losing (playoffs)
whatever that is worth, you immediately have your #1 PP and PK player
elite at everything (regular season)
apologetic to losing (playoffs)
whatever that is worth, you immediately have your #1 PP and PK player
An interesting partner might be St. Louis. They've signaled interest in "retooling", not rebuilding, and have the three 1st round picks at their disposal.
Perhaps something like Buchnevich + STL 1st + 3rd for Marner.
Basically a swap of two-way wingers, with value added for Toronto. STL does get younger in the transaction, while acquiring a higher-ceiling player.
Perhaps something like Buchnevich + STL 1st + 3rd for Marner.
Basically a swap of two-way wingers, with value added for Toronto. STL does get younger in the transaction, while acquiring a higher-ceiling player.
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I get Marner has been bad in elimination games, but the offers in here are why so many laugh at HFboards. The guy put up 100 points and is a Selke finalist and the offers in here are laughable.
Take him out of the Toronto spotlight where clearly he can't handle the pressure and into a market without our fishbowl and suddenly threads are about how badly the Leafs messed up trading him like what happened with Kessel
Take him out of the Toronto spotlight where clearly he can't handle the pressure and into a market without our fishbowl and suddenly threads are about how badly the Leafs messed up trading him like what happened with Kessel
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I'm not so sure we want to roll with 8 rookie contracts lol. Holtz, Foote, and Clarke are all pretty aspirational to be NHLers next year. Nemec might not be ready either. I'd prefer we just keep Mercer and continue rolling a deeper lineup.
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As a Kings fan I would not give up that much for Marner. Not even close. Not with that contract
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Americanadian
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That is completely fair. I assumed all of Holtz/Foote/Nemec/Clarke were primed for bottom 6/bottom pairing roles next year based on their AHL seasons. Is Bratt still a lock to return or is there fear his contract demands are crazy?
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Question #1: Maybe a half dozen or so. Question 2: None that I know of. Conclusion? Just keep Marner.
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That's a good question. Your guess is as good as mine.
I think a few of those guys might be ready, but you'd want to put them in roles where they can be a bit more insulated by vets. Hard to hide that many rookies lol.
Americanadian
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To be fair I just had rookies in the bottom 6/bottom pair. They can be replaced with <1M vets. I do understand not wanting to blow all the money on the top 6 though (as a Leafs fan).
Do you believe, as a Devils fan, that Mercer+Bastian for Marner is fair value?
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Yeah I think as a base, it could work for a team in need of a dynamic offensive player like Marner. With the way the Devils are built, it doesn't make much sense.
I can't see the blues doing this. I have a hard time seeing them pay Marner 11 mil on his next contract.
LOL nice one. take all the habs size. Habs don't want marner as I've posted previously - and many of the offers in here don't include the dman, toronto really needs
He's making $11M right now.
I can't really say if they'd do it, but if they want to retool, trading picks for mediocre players doesn't accomplish much. TOR's core are probably the only prime-age elite players that may be available.
ole ole
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As a Hab fan i have no interest in Marner because of where we are in our rebuild. I have always claimed that Marner is the Leafs best player so even with his so-so playoffs and what a new contract would look like i see some teams paying a lot for him. Just not the Habs.
lanceuppercut75
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Hmmk okay. So what do the Predators add then? Toronto moves up from #28 in the draft to #15? Maybe Nashville retains 15% or 20% on Duchene? Both?
I like the idea of Duchene replacing Marner now (temporary downgrade) but then also Kemell joining the team in the next 1 or 2 years and both guys playing in the Leafs top 9.
Maybe I'm the only Leafs fan that wouldn't mind Duchene, IDK...
Duchene (15-20% retained)
Kemell
15th overall
for
Marner
28th overall
From Montreal: Josh Anderson
This is not 1v1, merely a base. Montreal adds and that does not need to be pointed out.
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Bruce Granville
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So offer him to Arizona together with Matthews.
There are not many teams who care about owed vs AAV.
