Value of: Marner

[NVious]

What's your best offer for Marner?

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[Coffee]

Stutzle

 

[Fist of Fury]

Bailey, Wahlstrom, Clutterbuck, Rights to Mayfield. That's pretty decent.

 

[Coffee]

Bailey, Wahlstrom, Clutterbuck, Rights to Mayfield. That's pretty decent.

Ottawa/San Jose/LA/Sabres all beat that offer

 

[lanceuppercut75]

Stutzle

Leafs take that and run. No way Ottawa does that. Elite winger, mid-20s, with only 2 years left on his contract, for a young cheaper #1 center locked up long term.

 

[Coffee]

Leafs take that and run. No way Ottawa does that. Elite winger, mid-20s, with only 2 years left on his contract, for a young cheaper #1 center locked up long term.

Like I said in the previous post.

This is not 1v1, merely a base. Toronto adds and that does not need to be pointed out.

 

[lanceuppercut75]

Like I said in the previous post.

This is not 1v1, merely a base. Toronto adds and that does not need to be pointed out.

This forum has a ton of meatheads who don't even know how to read posts properly, who take things out of context and misinterpret posts constantly. It absolutely needs to be pointed out. Even if you do point it out, you're likely to have your post misinterpreted anyways. Lol.

Will respond properly in a few mins.

 

[lanceuppercut75]

Stutzle

IF Ottawa was serious about doing a trade based on Stutzle and Marner, the Leafs should absolutely be interested in that and do whatever they can to get it done without badly overpaying.

I guess their top 6 would look like

Tkachuk - Norris - Marner
DeBrincat - Giroux - Batherson

and if things develop well with Pinto, he can move into Giroux's spot eventually and Giroux can move to 3rd line C or RW as he gets older.

Maybe they want Samsonov? I think trading Marner and Samsonov and some third piece that isn't a 1st round pick or top prospect for Stutzle would be a bold but reasonable move from the Leafs. They might be asking to swap Brannstrom for McCabe or asking for Minten.

I think giving Marner + Samsonov + McCabe + Minten for Stutzle + Brannstrom is a lot to give up for the Leafs. On the other hand, we're talking about acquiring a young stud 1C locked up on a long term contract. It would be easier to pull the trigger on if it was McCabe/Brannstrom OR Minten, not both, but maybe both is still worth it for the Leafs. Stutzle would be a Leaf until 2031.

This is where I start rambling, fair warning :

You have Matthews Stutzle Tavares down the middle, with weaker wingers and weaker D than before, but then you trade Matthews for a winger and defenseman and a 1st / good prospect. This is getting kind of off topic now but I saw somebody say Matthews for Necas Pesce 1st prospect.

Matthews Marner becomes Stutzle Necas
McCabe (open roster spot) becomes Pesce Brannstrom
Samsonov becomes (open roster spot) ---> Woll becomes full time NHLer
Matt Murray can be bought out / dumped and replaced with a UFA
Leafs also added a 1st and a good prospect in the Matthews trade

Bob's your uncle.

 

[BradyTkachucky]

Stutzle

Yeah NO.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

What's your best offer for Marner?

Woah what, why is Marner being offered up?

Marner is Toronto’s best PKer.

 

[lanceuppercut75]

Woah what, why is Marner being offered up?

Marner is Toronto’s best PKer.

Some Leafs fans believe that Matthews and Marner need to be traded. Others think Nylander should be traded too. A few people want Rielly gone, but I think it's a minority. MANY people want Tavares gone, but he won't accept a trade and his contract is buyout-proof.

The goal here is to get rid of Matthews and Marner (and maybe Nylander) and ideally still keep the team a contending playoff team. Some fans are comfortable with a rebuild, but others think that Matthews Marner Nylander have a lot of trade value and therefore we can use that to bring in really good players and continue to be a high quality playoff team trying to win the cup, but with different guys in the locker room and a different culture that doesn't have a loser mentality.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Stutzle

It's hard to imagine Ottawa would even consider doing this.

 

[waitin425]

IF Ottawa was serious about doing a trade based on Stutzle and Marner, the Leafs should absolutely be interested in that and do whatever they can to get it done without badly overpaying.

I guess their top 6 would look like

Tkachuk - Norris - Marner
DeBrincat - Giroux - Batherson

and if things develop well with Pinto, he can move into Giroux's spot eventually and Giroux can move to 3rd line C or RW as he gets older.

Maybe they want Samsonov? I think trading Marner and Samsonov and some third piece that isn't a 1st round pick or top prospect for Stutzle would be a bold but reasonable move from the Leafs. They might be asking to swap Brannstrom for McCabe or asking for Minten.

I think giving Marner + Samsonov + McCabe + Minten for Stutzle + Brannstrom is a lot to give up for the Leafs. On the other hand, we're talking about acquiring a young stud 1C locked up on a long term contract. It would be easier to pull the trigger on if it was McCabe/Brannstrom OR Minten, not both, but maybe both is still worth it for the Leafs. Stutzle would be a Leaf until 2031.

This is where I start rambling, fair warning :

You have Matthews Stutzle Tavares down the middle, with weaker wingers and weaker D than before, but then you trade Matthews for a winger and defenseman and a 1st / good prospect. This is getting kind of off topic now but I saw somebody say Matthews for Necas Pesce 1st prospect.

Matthews Marner becomes Stutzle Necas
McCabe (open roster spot) becomes Pesce Brannstrom
Samsonov becomes (open roster spot) ---> Woll becomes full time NHLer
Matt Murray can be bought out / dumped and replaced with a UFA
Leafs also added a 1st and a good prospect in the Matthews trade

Bob's your uncle.

Actually....Bob is YOUR uncle.

The uncle who comes over at Christmas to play on your shiny new Nintendo and beats your ass at Blades of Steel.

 

[NyQuil]

Stutzle

 

[HuGo Sham]

The best offer needs to be from a team with a glut of quality, young d-men who desperately need a PPG winger.

 

[lanceuppercut75]

The best offer needs to be from a team with a glut of quality, young d-men who desperately need a PPG winger.

MARNER
GIORDANO

for

DVORAK
EVANS
GUHLE
SAVARD
Filip Mesar or Owen Beck

 

[HuGo Sham]

MARNER
GIORDANO

for

DVORAK
EVANS
GUHLE
SAVARD
Filip Mesar or Owen Beck

lol. I didn't say Montreal

I like Marner, but he doesn't fit into the window. Habs aren't contending for at least 3 years, when Marner is around 30 - and they're also not going to pay him 12+ million.

I also doubt leafs fans like this deal, and Guhle is an absolute non-starter for Montreal.

 

[SweSensFan]

Stutzle

Fü*k no!

 

[wintersej]

Like I said in the previous post.

This is not 1v1, merely a base. Toronto adds and that does not need to be pointed out.

You are assuming everyone reads all of your posts from every thread everywhere? Your previous post in this thread was only one word…and I can’t see what Toronto could add to complete that deal anyway.

 

[molon labe]

Pens would love to have him.

Offer would be Guentzel +

You're saving 5M first year to add whatever for your push with AM, then Jake probably commands 7.5-8.5 long term.

 

[Byron Bitz]

Is this the big splash that Ottawa’s new ownership makes?

 

[lanceuppercut75]

The draft is in Nashville this year, and the host team usually makes a big trade, or at least, medium sized.

DUCHENE
McCARRON
Joakim Kemell

for

MARNER

Is the value way off there? I can't tell. Nashville probably doesn't do it, if they don't think they can extend Marner in 2025.

 

[NyQuil]

Is this the big splash that Ottawa’s new ownership makes?

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

The draft is in Nashville this year, and the host team usually makes a big trade, or at least, medium sized.

DUCHENE
McCARRON
Joakim Kemell

for

MARNER

Is the value way off there? I can't tell. Nashville probably doesn't do it, if they don't think they can extend Marner in 2025.

That offer is Garbage lol.

 

[peconcan]

Marner won’t be traded nobody will offer what the Leafs would want