TSN: Marner on tsn: "We are grown men".

[BrannigansLaw]

Great question by the reporter" Are we at the point now where they are such delicate flowers that you have to watch the words that you use?"
Finally a leafs reporter who doesn't shill 24/7.

Was that an actual question? Who asked it?

 

[Hellcat]

Ok finally watched it

Matthews looked arrogant
Marner looked arrogant and stupid
Keefe looked like a p***y

It was worse watching it

Keefe looks like a guy back peddling after he gets caught talking shit about the guys that can fire him.

 

[TheTotalPackage]

There's more than 2 coaches in the world. Just because Keefe is struggling in his own way doesn't make Babcock magically not be a terrible coach. No other teams want him for a reason

I also don't think Babcock is too hellbent on finding work when he can sit at home with his wife enjoying life and collecting $6.25M to do nothing.

 

[thewave]

We're not winning shit

Pretty much sums it up. No tender, no character and no leadership from the highest levels down. They're a joke.

 

[Hellcat]

Was that an actual question? Who asked it?

Yep, it was a chick reporter

 

[Kyle089]

Keefe made some comments about the star players, media of course blew it way out of proportion. Keefe had a conversation behind doors with the leadership group, same as any other team. Keefe then tried to clarify his statements to the media because he saw how they and some fans have completely overreacted to something minor.

This is honestly nothing, but of course the media in Toronto is trying to make it something. I guess this is what happens when people overreact after 4 games into the season.

 

[Suntouchable13]

There's more than 2 coaches in the world. Just because Keefe is struggling in his own way doesn't make Babcock magically not be a terrible coach. No other teams want him for a reason

I am not necessarily disputing that, but I can see why he did what he did. I can see his methods were not without reason.

 

[thewave]

I also don't think Babcock is too hellbent on finding work when he can sit at home with his wife enjoying life and collecting $6.25M to do nothing.

He should never have been fired and Dubas should never have been hired. I wish I had an alternate reality machine where I could go see this team with Babcock still in and a vet GM. Bet we would have at least hit the ECF.

 

[andora]

Keefe looks like a guy back peddling after he gets caught talking shit about the guys that can fire him.

I use less words lol

Keefe made some comments about the star players, media of course blew it way out of proportion. Keefe had a conversation behind doors with the leadership group, same as any other team. Keefe then tried to clarify his statements to the media because he saw how they and some fans have completely overreacted to something minor.

This is honestly nothing, but of course the media in Toronto is trying to make it something. I guess this is what happens when people overreact after 4 games into the season.

You are wrong in my opinion

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

I am not necessarily disputing that, but I can see why he did what he did. I can see his methods were not without reason.

You mean his methods of being extra harsh on the team? yeah I'd agree that was overblown, but they didn't really get results either

 

[Nhlpowerweek]

Wow watching Keefe back pedal so much on such small comments and lie about the true meaning is pretty pathetic ahah, so happy we have a no bullshit straight up coach like Sutter, accountability goes a long way in a team sport.

Oh boy Sutter would totally Pat this Quinn up for us for the future, in a heart beat. And for the presens time too, instantly.

 

[Fonzieleaf]

Maybe after Keefe’s statement he was pulled into Shannys office and was told to say I used the wrong words. So I think it might stem from upper management.

 

[BallardEra]

Keefe made some comments about the star players, media of course blew it way out of proportion. Keefe had a conversation behind doors with the leadership group, same as any other team. Keefe then tried to clarify his statements to the media because he saw how they and some fans have completely overreacted to something minor.

This is honestly nothing, but of course the media in Toronto is trying to make it something. I guess this is what happens when people overreact after 4 games into the season.

It was nothing but the fact they even did what they did today has now made it something.

They all should have come out today and played dumb to all questions. The fact Keefe walked back on his words and the players said what they did made a nothing situation even more tantalizing for the frothing Toronto media.

 

[Hellcat]

Two little Dmen on the back end that cant play defence with goalies that are MEH! at best. Anyone NOT taking Dallas Thursday night?

Sandin needs to be benched, that guy is a hot mess back there.

 

[DarkKnight]

So either Keefe felt he needed to walk it back, Dubas did or the players did. I don’t think it the latter, but all those options speak poorly about the culture around this team.

 

[Nhlpowerweek]

We are grown men.. is that statement supposed to mean something? I'm not sure what the connecting thought process is .. We are grown men that take our privileged life for granted? We are grown men that don't learn from our mistakes? We are grown men that show up for the season with out purpose? We are grown men that can get the job done? We are grown men that act like children? We are grown men that have no passion for hockey? Why is it the same group of grown men need the same "get your heads out of your assess" speech every Fall and Spring?

Exactly. Sometimes silencio is the golden way to go. Just say nothing and move on, if a human being is not intelligent or wise enough to speak on that occation.

 

[TheTotalPackage]

He should never have been fired and Dubas should never have been hired. I wish I had an alternate reality machine where I could go see this team with Babcock still in and a vet GM. Bet we would have at least hit the ECF.

No disagreements here.

 

[Jozay]

Keefe didnt even say anything crazy, why is he walking it back lol

 

[All Mod Cons]

He should never have been fired and Dubas should never have been hired. I wish I had an alternate reality machine where I could go see this team with Babcock still in and a vet GM. Bet we would have at least hit the ECF.

Yeah. I'm fairly confident the hiring of Dubas and the signing of Tavares has cost us a couple of deeps runs in the playoffs (thus far).

 

[DarkKnight]

He should never have been fired and Dubas should never have been hired. I wish I had an alternate reality machine where I could go see this team with Babcock still in and a vet GM. Bet we would have at least hit the ECF.

He should have been fired, he lost the room. Also true, Dubas hiring his buddy, with his training wheels, while you’re in your window, was a mistake.

 

[thewave]

Yeah. I'm fairly confident the hiring of Dubas and the signing of Tavares has cost us a couple of deeps runs in the playoffs (thus far).

I didn't even mention JT but I did post at the time of signing say the price was too steep.

 

[BayStBullies]

Alright, can someone now pull Keefe aside and address his repeated mistakes without any progress made to them?

 

[leafsfan5]

Keefe made some comments about the star players, media of course blew it way out of proportion. Keefe had a conversation behind doors with the leadership group, same as any other team. Keefe then tried to clarify his statements to the media because he saw how they and some fans have completely overreacted to something minor.

This is honestly nothing, but of course the media in Toronto is trying to make it something. I guess this is what happens when people overreact after 4 games into the season.

When was it blown out of proportion? I thought the consensus was most people agreed with Keefe and that they weren't good enough

Keefe was 100% correct in his initial statement. They get paid the big bucks, they should be able to deal with criticism that comes from it. The fact that he had to come out and say "that's not what I meant" is sad and shows the lack of accountability in this organization

And the fact that people still think this is just 4 games is crazy. People aren't upset because of a single loss to Arizona. They're upset because we haven't won a series in 6 straight attempts and are displaying the same exact issues that have plagued us in the past.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

We are grown men.. is that statement supposed to mean something? I'm not sure what the connecting thought process is .. We are grown men that take our privileged life for granted? We are grown men that don't learn from our mistakes? We are grown men that show up for the season with out purpose? We are grown men that can get the job done? We are grown men that act like children? We are grown men that have no passion for hockey? Why is it the same group of grown men need the same "get your heads out of your assess" speech every Fall and Spring?

It is a stupid hockey saying been used by coaches for years .. it usually means exact opposite .. usually you'll hear your coach say "play like men not boys" .. for so many years he has heard it thru junior and pro .. it get ridiculous how many times you hear it .. most guys tune it out .. but it gets ingrained in your vocabulary

 

[thewave]

He should have been fired, he lost the room. Also true, Dubas hiring his buddy, with his training wheels, while you’re in your window was mistake.

I get what you are saying but we have to remember that he lost the room during the Dubas Babcock power struggle. If Lou or a similar GM were there he likely would not have lost the room.