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I want Marner gone, but to play devil's advocate: we replace him with a 60-point player like Ehlers and miss the playoffs. Mitch wins us A LOT of games in November and March....
 
I want Marner gone, but to play devil's advocate: we replace him with a 60-point player like Ehlers and miss the playoffs. Mitch wins us A LOT of games in November and March....
I am honestly at the point where I would let him walk and if we miss the playoffs because of it, who cares, at least they tried something different.
 
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I want to let him walk but I think the business case is to do the same thing over again... keeping Leafs in the top 3 in the Atlantic with Marner as insurance in case Matthews is cooked as a front line player. So I voted keep.
 
As always, it depends on the cost. A one deal for 7 million, keep. A 9 million deal for any number of years without trade protection, keep. At any number that he's likely to agree to, don't walk, run!
 
I want to let him walk but I think the business case is to do the same thing over again... keeping Leafs in the top 3 in the Atlantic with Marner as insurance in case Matthews is cooked as a front line player. So I voted keep.
If we were a small market team where play-off revenue was tantamount then you would be happy with the status quo. In Toronto the goal is always to win the Stanley Cup and while this team is very good it is not a cup winning team. We have limited options for improving the team and the biggest one is the freed up cap space. Marner doesn't really play like a Berube system player so is the most logical subtraction. Who gives an RFA a NMC clause in the last year of their contract that walks them to UFA status?
 
This is dependent upon contract parameters since I'm not entirely convinced the team can spend that money in another manner which is unequivocally better or worse.
 
If we were a small market team where play-off revenue was tantamount then you would be happy with the status quo. In Toronto the goal is always to win the Stanley Cup and while this team is very good it is not a cup winning team. We have limited options for improving the team and the biggest one is the freed up cap space. Marner doesn't really play like a Berube system player so is the most logical subtraction. Who gives an RFA a NMC clause in the last year of their contract that walks them to UFA status?

100% with you, but I see a world where the corporation does the corporate thing and the Darren Ferris agency does it's thing, and it's more of the same.
 
If there was a way to keep him for the regular season then trade him for the playoffs each year I'd do that.

Otherwise, too bad MLSE foolishly missed their chance to move him. And I say MLSE because I'm certain that they would've blocked any attempt to move him, insisting Treliving find a way to extend him no matter what it takes (and it is clear they were trying to extend him, Mitch just wasn't willing to).

Too late to get assets, but he still has to go.

Too stubborn/arrogant after 9 years to recognize that, like the other Core, he has to change his approach in the post-season for the team to have success. Every year he rinse & repeats the exact same thing and every year the team loses.

And worse, failure is so deeply rooted in these guys they've lost the series (or at least the series clinching games) before they even start. Broken players need to get a fresh start somewhere else, and since Willie, Morgan and AM are locked in, one or two (JT) are better than none.
 
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He's fully welcome to sign at at a reasonable rate with absolutely no NTC/NMC's in his contract. But his ego won't let him do that.
 
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If we were a small market team where play-off revenue was tantamount then you would be happy with the status quo. In Toronto the goal is always to win the Stanley Cup and while this team is very good it is not a cup winning team. We have limited options for improving the team and the biggest one is the freed up cap space. Marner doesn't really play like a Berube system player so is the most logical subtraction. Who gives an RFA a NMC clause in the last year of their contract that walks them to UFA status?
According to Chris Johnston he thinks the opposite. A first round exit doesnt make small market teams much more successful and doesn't attract fans to the stadium. Stanley Cup runs do... he thinks Leafs on the other hand generate alot more by being just a playoff team because fans come no matter what, so they are satisfied with it and make less drastic moves than small market teams.
 
There is no dollar value at which it makes sense to keep him, no compromise that makes running it back make sense.

14m? Get lost. 10m? Get lost. 7m? Get LOST. League minimum? YOU'RE FIRED, BRO, GET LOST.

The dignity of this franchise is worth 3 or 4m in cap space? The dignity of this franchise is worth 2 first round picks and a blue chip prospect? No, he's FIRED.
 
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