Proposal: Marner for Swayman +

[SensontheRush]

Is this worth exploring for either team?

Something like:

Marner for Swayman + Poitras + Geekie

Feels pretty cursed lol.

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[I am Bettman]

Bruins are not adding to Swayman for Marner lol.

 

[SensontheRush]

Bruins are not adding to Swayman for Marner lol.

Well, you do have to even out salaries.

I feel like Poitras is too much an add from the Bruins side, but if this were to go down, Swayman is not enough to nab Marner IMO, especially given the impass the Bruins are facing.

I was initially doing Swayman + Frederic + ?.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Plus is on the wrong side there, particularly with Marner a year out from UFA and able to go where he pleases.

 

[SensontheRush]

Plus is on the wrong side there, particularly with Marner a year out from UFA and able to go where he pleases.

I think if this trade were to go down both teams would have to negotiate contracts in advance, though fair point, and that would get rid of one of the hurdles in this possible transaction.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Well, you do have to even out salaries.

I feel like Poitras is too much an add from the Bruins side, but if this were to go down, Swayman is not enough to nab Marner IMO, especially given the impass the Bruins are facing.

I was initially doing Swayman + Frederic + ?.

Poitras being too much to add is putting it lightly. Boston has adds because of cap reasons but Toronto isn't getting the pending UFA here. So Toronto should be the team adding futures

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I think if this trade were to go down both teams would have to negotiate contracts in advance, though fair point, and that would get rid of one of the hurdles in this possible transaction.

There's also the fact that 1RW is likely the position that the Bruins need the least, haha.

 

[SensontheRush]

There's also the fact that 1RW is likely the position that the Bruins need the least, haha.

I think we are talking skilled enough players that handedness wouldn't really get in the way of stacking a 1st with Marner and Pasta. Nor is attempting to build two 1st lines problematic IMO.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I think we are talking skilled enough players that handedness wouldn't really get in the way of stacking a 1st with Marner and Pasta. Nor is attempting to build two 1st lines problematic IMO.

In itself it isn't, but when you look at their goalie situation without Swayman, virtually no amount of scoring will help.

 

[scout20]

Marner & Woll for Swayman, Frederic & Lohrei

 

[HockeyVirus]

Plus is on the wrong side there, particularly with Marner a year out from UFA and able to go where he pleases.

Tell me the last goalie to return a player like Marner nvm plus

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

I can't see Marner waving to go to an arch rival. But Marner and Pastrnak on the same line would be sick.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Tell me the last goalie to return a player like Marner nvm plus

A playoff no show with a year left? Returning a longterm solution in net with some of the best numbers in the league?

 

[HockeyVirus]

A playoff no show with a year left? Returning a longterm solution in net with some of the best numbers in the league?

So no examples then got it

 

[pld459666]

Bruins are not adding to Swayman for Marner lol.

LMAO. Swayman alone doesn't sniff a Marner return.

I like Swayman, but goalies don't have tjat level of value.

 

[BronxBruin]

Trade value aside, I don't know if the Bruins even could fit Marner's next cap hit under the cap if they wanted to (which they probably don't since they already have one winger making 8 figures). Marchand, Geekie, Frederic, & Lohrei will all likely be due for decent raises -- and it's not like they have that many awful cap dumps that they'd want to ship out (other than Korpisalo who they'd apparently be riding with if they traded Swayman).

 

[BB79]

How well does Marner play goalie?

 

[dgibb10]

LMAO. Swayman alone doesn't sniff a Marner return.

I like Swayman, but goalies don't have tjat level of value.

Neither do 11 mill full NMC rental wingers

 

[HolyGhost]

Is this worth exploring for either team?

Something like:

Marner for Swayman + Poitras + Geekie

Feels pretty cursed lol.

NOPE. One of one.

 

[Sorry]

When I think "Boston Bruin", I think of players like Mitch Marner.

 

[Petes2424]

There’s people who are going to be severely disappointed with the return (if Swayman ends up traded) if they actually think the Bruins could get Mitch Marner straight up for him… and I’m not talking about adding things to make the cap work. In no hockey world ever, is Swayman anywhere near worth the value of Marner.

The Bruins may even have to add to get a player like Hayton from Utah, included in any package with a goalie and a pick.

No matter how much fans pretend, there’s not a manager in the NHL who puts Swayman in the elite category with Shesterkin, Vasilesky, etc. Maybe if he gets out of the system and shows he can carry a team in stretches, that opinion will change. Until then, it matters. It’s part of how he’s judged.

I like him a lot and don’t think he’s just a product of the system, but we’re not being honest if we don’t think it helps him quite a bit. We can count on one hand, Swayman ever standing on his head to win games. He’s just never really been asked to. He would be in Utah, LA, Detroit, etc.

Boston isn’t the only team who’s not willing to go over $8 million for him, which is going to effect the amount of teams bidding for him, and it’s for the same exact reason. Adin Hill won a Cup, looking just as good as Swayman has ever looked playing in that system, and nobody was lining up Brinks trucks to his house last summer.

You just can’t ignore the system he plays in front of.

 

[SensontheRush]

When I think "Boston Bruin", I think of players like Mitch Marner.

He IS a Leafs killer after all.

 

[Leafshater67]

One greedy, money hungry douche for another. Brilliant.

 

[SensontheRush]

There’s people who are going to be severely disappointed with the return (if Swayman ends up traded) if they actually think the Bruins could get Mitch Marner straight up for him… and I’m not talking about adding things to make the cap work. In no hockey world ever, is Swayman anywhere near worth the value of Marner.

The Bruins may even have to add to get a player like Hayton from Utah, included in any package with a goalie and a pick.

No matter how much fans pretend, there’s not a manager in the NHL who puts Swayman in the elite category with Shesterkin, Vasilesky, etc. Maybe if he gets out of the system and shows he can carry a team in stretches, that opinion will change. Until then, it matters. It’s part of how he’s judged.

I like him a lot and don’t think he’s just a product of the system, but we’re not being honest if we don’t think it helps him quite a bit. We can count on one hand, Swayman ever standing on his head to win games. He’s just never really been asked to. He would be in Utah, LA, Detroit, etc.

Boston isn’t the only team who’s not willing to go over $8 million for him, which is going to effect the amount of teams bidding for him, and it’s for the same exact reason. Adin Hill won a Cup, looking just as good as Swayman has ever looked playing in that system, and nobody was lining up Brinks trucks to his house last summer.

You just can’t ignore the system he plays in front of.

Marner could simply be a 1 year rental in the end, though he'd still get a hefty return at the trade deadline.

We are at a point right now where their values are at their most similar.

 

[Smif]

I'm pretty happy with our tandem at 5M total. I don't like the longevity of goalies on 8x8 deals tbh.