Rumor: Marner blocked a trade to Carolina for Rantanen

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Thank God. Rantanen on the Leafs would have been disgusting and he's exactly the type of forward they need. A playoff-built performer.

Thank God.

First Leafs pick Tavares instead of strategically prioritizing Pietrangelo now this.

 

[General Fanager]

marner refused to extend with leafs
marner refused trade after refusing to extend
marner knows the leafs don't want him
leafs can't pretend they want to keep him
locker room knows he is selfish and sabotaged the team

just seems uncomfortable all around, even without hyperbole

1. He did not refuse to extend. He said not in season. He said so from the start. I don't know why anyone is surprised.

2. On what planet does it make sense for him to accept a trade to anywhere right now?

3. If the Leafs really don't want him, he will see teams line up for him on July 1st.

3. The Leafs can pretend all they want but this was their mistake from the start so kick rocks....

4. I would bet that most or all the players in that room would side with him. business is business.

5. He says in every interview he wants to stay and he leads the team in points yet again but he is sabotaging the team????


Nonssnse.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

He's a Toronto boy he doesnt wanna leave, but I can see his agent swaying him in that direction. one thing for certain he wont leave a penny on the table. so Im assuming he's seeking 8x14m

I have always wanted change the core but not let one just walk for free, however I feel like there's a high chance he walks.

 

[General Fanager]

Thank God. Rantanen on the Leafs would have been disgusting and he's exactly the type of forward they need. A playoff-built performer.

Thank God.

First Leafs pick Tavares instead of strategically prioritizing Pietrangelo now this.

Signing Tavares was the start of this epic streak of mistakes from Shany and his crew......

He's a Toronto boy he doesnt wanna leave, but I can see his agent swaying him in that direction. one thing for certain he wont leave a penny on the table. so Im assuming he's seeking 8x14m

I have always wanted change the core but not let one just walk for free, however I feel like there's a high chance he walks.

Im not so sure. Im thinking he goes shorter like 3x13.5, then he can sign his monster deal in 3 years once the cap has gone up more.

 

[Nothingbutglass]

He's a Toronto boy he doesnt wanna leave, but I can see his agent swaying him in that direction. one thing for certain he wont leave a penny on the table. so Im assuming he's seeking 8x14m

I have always wanted change the core but not let one just walk for free, however I feel like there's a high chance he walks.

Bad management. Signing Nylander was last straw to lock them into this path. The future is not bright

 

[Leaf Fans]

Bad management. Signing Nylander was last straw to lock them into this path. The future is not bright

What path?

 

[wunderpanda]

1. He did not refuse to extend. He said not in season. He said so from the start. I don't know why anyone is surprised.

2. On what planet does it make sense for him to accept a trade to anywhere right now?

3. If the Leafs really don't want him, he will see teams line up for him on July 1st.

3. The Leafs can pretend all they want but this was their mistake from the start so kick rocks....

4. I would bet that most or all the players in that room would side with him. business is business.

5. He says in every interview he wants to stay and he leads the team in points yet again but he is sabotaging the team????


Nonssnse.

1. so you agree he didn't extend
2. you agree he blocked trade
3. you agree leafs tried to trade him
4. you agree marner knows leafs tried to trade him
5. players want to win, management felt rantanen would give them a better chance to win. his wanting to stay didn't outweigh his wanting to get paid, otherwise he would have been signed before the season.

it could very well be nonsense. but why would he want to stay someplace that doesn't want him? why would the leafs decide to want him after trying to trade him? at what point does it become detrimental (even with everyone being professional & saying the right things?)

maybe rags fans can chime in about the trouba trade, or nucks fans with miller or luongo. of jackets fans about carter. just seems like breaking up with somebody that won't move out until the lease expires, after they caught you cheating on them, and trying to get you back.

 

[General Fanager]

1. so you agree he didn't extend
2. you agree he blocked trade
3. you agree leafs tried to trade him
4. you agree marner knows leafs tried to trade him
5. players want to win, management felt rantanen would give them a better chance to win. his wanting to stay didn't outweigh his wanting to get paid, otherwise he would have been signed before the season.

it could very well be nonsense. but why would he want to stay someplace that doesn't want him? why would the leafs decide to want him after trying to trade him? at what point does it become detrimental (even with everyone being professional & saying the right things?)

maybe rags fans can chime in about the trouba trade, or nucks fans with miller or luongo. of jackets fans about carter. just seems like breaking up with somebody that won't move out until the lease expires, after they caught you cheating on them, and trying to get you back.

That's not what I read. The team said their first choice was Marner to sign but since he won't negotiate until the off season they did not want to take that chance so they tried to see if Rantanen would sign. Also if the team really believed that Marner will walk and if they believed in Rantanen they would have gone with Carolinas plan B with the Leafs of Knies +.

Once again I am not disputing the facts I am disputing who is at fault. He won't sign and they can't trade him and none of that is his fault. The team gave him that clause and the 1 guy who said "hey maybe its time we re-examine the whole big 4 thing".....Shanny fired him before he could. Then Shanny let his full no move kick in. Then both Matthews and Nylander were given big time deals yet Marner is expected to take less and do the team a favour.....

The team messed this up and now are blaming him for it.....

 

[Fatass]

1. He did not refuse to extend. He said not in season. He said so from the start. I don't know why anyone is surprised.

2. On what planet does it make sense for him to accept a trade to anywhere right now?

3. If the Leafs really don't want him, he will see teams line up for him on July 1st.

3. The Leafs can pretend all they want but this was their mistake from the start so kick rocks....

4. I would bet that most or all the players in that room would side with him. business is business.

5. He says in every interview he wants to stay and he leads the team in points yet again but he is sabotaging the team????


Nonssnse.

Arguably the Leafs’ best player (this season for sure) so he should be paid accordingly. He has all the leverage. The Leafs either give him the contract he deserves or he walks July 1 and they get to use that cap space elsewhere. Will be impossible to replace him though.

 

[chethejet]

Dubas got two good players for zip. Nice trade there. Pens free up cash with Karlsson trade and no question Pens go hard after Marner.

 

[dj Mahoney]

Seems like Marner is gone after the Season to the highest bidder , 15 million is my guess.

 

[kevsh]

Marner walks if he wants to walk, but there's absolutely zero doubt to me that MLSE will offer him whatever he wants to make him stay.

Anyone thinking otherwise is in denial: This organization has repeatedly made it clear that they are perfectly happy with the core of this team and have no interest in changing it until either these players retire or leave on their own.

 

[Captain Controversy]

Marner may end up testing free agency. I could see many teams interested in services.

 

[deca guard]

if marner stays can leafs still sign tavares too ?

 

[AvroArrow]

He's a Toronto boy he doesnt wanna leave, but I can see his agent swaying him in that direction. one thing for certain he wont leave a penny on the table. so Im assuming he's seeking 8x14m

I have always wanted change the core but not let one just walk for free, however I feel like there's a high chance he walks.

The one thing about a cap world is, cap space has value. So even if a guy walks, you're getting that 11M off the books which is a great asset in itself.

No shot he should get paid more than Matthews, I don't care if he's having a down-season.

If Marner wants 13M, I want a long term commitment. 13x8 , not another 3-5 year deal so he can keep taking the max cap hit. Having our franchise C locked up to that contract is a lot more important, given he scored nearly 70 goals and was great defensively.

I'm guessing Marner's gonna try and ask for something like 13.5M x 5 years, I would consider just letting him walk at that point tbh. Elite talent but we need guys who are team first + we have an elite RW in Nylander. Use that money to balance out the roster, so that way if the 50M powerplay isn't working, you got money/depth spread around that can chip in.

Right now we do or die with our top 4 forwards, when they're on they're on, but when they're not we get embarrassed. There's no consistency in production.

if marner stays can leafs still sign tavares too ?

Tavares is gonna take a sweetheart deal, rumor was 7M, I'm hoping it's not true. 5-6 is more fair value for what he provides.

 

[Mobiandi]

If there’s one Treliving is an expert in, it’s losing guys in free agency. Awful GM

 

[deca guard]

The one thing about a cap world is, cap space has value. So even if a guy walks, you're getting that 11M off the books which is a great asset in itself.

No shot he should get paid more than Matthews, I don't care if he's having a down-season.

If Marner wants 13M, I want a long term commitment. 13x8 , not another 3-5 year deal so he can keep taking the max cap hit. Having our franchise C locked up to that contract is a lot more important, given he scored nearly 70 goals and was great defensively.

I'm guessing Marner's gonna try and ask for something like 13.5M x 5 years, I would consider just letting him walk at that point tbh. Elite talent but we need guys who are team first + we have an elite RW in Nylander. Use that money to balance out the roster, so that way if the 50M powerplay isn't working, you got money/depth spread around that can chip in.

Right now we do or die with our top 4 forwards, when they're on they're on, but when they're not we get embarrassed. There's no consistency in production.


Tavares is gonna take a sweetheart deal, rumor was 7M, I'm hoping it's not true. 5-6 is more fair value for what he provides.

ok thanx