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People think Robertson is better than Caufield? Did Nick touch the puck tonight.....whomp whomp AHL season he's had
 
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bishop12 said:
People think Robertson is better than Caufield? Did Nick touch the puck tonight.....whomp whomp AHL season he's had
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Who are these "people"? Caufield is a well respected prospect and was highly drafted for a reason. Robertson is an excellent prospect given where he was drafted, however, Caufield is clearly ahead of him.
 
IrishInOntario said:
Who are these "people"? Caufield is a well respected prospect and was highly drafted for a reason. Robertson is an excellent prospect given where he was drafted, however, Caufield is clearly ahead of him.
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I think it was actually the opposite . Leaf fans were obviously happy w Robertsons progression and given size/nationality/wjc and scoring accumen they were compared. Hab fans did not like the notion that the Leafs got a similar or superior caliber talent a round later. That's what I remember anyway. I don't recall many saying Robertson was miles ahead/or a class above etc. Other than Button many prospects lists do have them bunched relatively close .
 
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We need to revamp the defense. Duszak, Hollowell, Kivihalme, and Rubins should not be higher than sheltered bottom pairing defenseman. We should be cutting at least half of them by next year, and I would cut at least one by this TDL if possible (probably Hollowell since he has the most value). I would cut three of them if we could sign Jakob Stenqvist or Zach Metsa for RD. Hoefenmayer and McCourt should not be anything more than AHL extras next year, and could probably use some ECHL time to develop defensively. Kapcheck is also an ECHLer. Sandin, Kral, and two veteran UFA's who can also be AHL depth should be our top 4 next year.

Up front, we just need to replace Kossila and Agostino mostly and figure out our AHL contracts. It will be young and inexperienced, but very talented. I would give Brazeau and Elynuik one more chance, but they have to work their way up from depth guys and prove they can at least be full time AHLers after next year if they want to stick around after that.

LW Nick Robertson – C Adam Brooks – RW Alex Steeves
LW Rodion Amirov – C Semyon Der-Arguchintsev – RW Nic Petan
LW Filip Hallander – C Tyler Gaudet – RW UFA Vet
LW UFA Vet – C Mikhail Abramov – RW Jeremy McKenna
LW Hudson Elynuik - C AHL Vet - RW Justin Brazeau
Extras: LW Rich Clune/RW Scott Sabourin

LD Rasmus Sandin - RD UFA Vet
LD Filip Kral - RD UFA Vet
LD Teemu Kivihalme - RD Jakob Stenqvist/Zac Metsa
LD Noel Hoefenmayer - RD Riley McCourt

G Joseph Woll - G Michael Hutchinson

Scott, McMann, Green, and Kapcheck to the ECHL.
 
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bishop12 said:
People think Robertson is better than Caufield? Did Nick touch the puck tonight.....whomp whomp AHL season he's had
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Well Leafs have a pretty good track record developing prospects.

Marner, Nylander, Rielly, Hyman, Brown, Galchenyuk now.

I mean if I had to pick an organization to develop these two prospects, it'd be the Leafs.

If I had to pick an organization to ruin these prospects development (Galchenyuk, Drouin, Leblanc) it'd be the Habs
 
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I thought Robertson would probably be better. His record pace of goal scoring last year, he’d already played great and scored in the playoffs/playin against a tough team in Columbus, he’d outproduced Caulfield at the wjc and I thought Caulfield looked tepid in both wjc.
That said: the game last night changed my mind due to Coles quite obvious better skating, iq and skill set. Robertson has work ahead of him to catch up. Still happy with Robertson though.
 
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Moore comes across as a box of rocks in interviews to me. Could just be a personality thing but I get the sense he's out of his depth here.
Poor hiring decision, IMO.
 
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SeaOfBlue said:
He has 10 points in 13 games with an incompetent coach. I would say he is doing pretty well.
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Plus it's also worth noting Caufield has a year+ of development over Robertson. Robertson has hardly played at all over the past 13 months and he's been ridled with injuries and he's almost a year younger.
 
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bishop12 said:
People think Robertson is better than Caufield? Did Nick touch the puck tonight.....whomp whomp AHL season he's had
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He did touch the puck. Didn't do much else though. Whether he is better than Caufield, give it a couple of years.
 
I wonder if Ian Scott will get the start today.

That’d be a great story for this weekend.
 
bishop12 said:
People thought Robertson was better?

Did Robertson touch the puck in this game?
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bishop12 said:
People think Robertson is better than Caufield? Did Nick touch the puck tonight.....whomp whomp AHL season he's had
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So no one cares about your bad takes over in the Caufield thread, so you bring it over to the Leafs board to beg for attention? Pretty desperate and sad.
 
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You guys creaming over Caulfield over Robertson make me laugh(mostly Habs posters).

Robertson has played basically 14 games all season, he’s barely played. Cole has been playing hockey all year.

The fact that they’re even in the same ballpark as prospects is better for the Leafs than it is for the Habs, considering the gap in skill of both teams.
 
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Caulfield is a very good player. About as good of a debut as you can possibly have TBH. I'll be more impressed if he can sustain that level of production. If I am not mistaken Ryan Poehling had a hattrick in his debut (also against the Leafs). Can't say I have heard much of him since. Although I do believe Caulfield is a much better player than Ryan was at the time of his debut, still need to see more of Cole playing against men before I am fully willing to say he is going to be a superstar. After all this was a player who was virtually absent at the WJC against kids the same age or younger. And against countries that are terrible. USA had a great tournament, Cole did not. He is a very good prospect, but has proven nothing at the NHL level yet. Same with any of our top 4 prospects. If there is one prospect that MTL has the right to be excited about it is probably Cole. They overhyped Nick Suzuki, who in my mind is not more than a good #2 center who can play both sides of the ice. And they overhyped Romanov as well. I do think Cole can be an X-Factor. Definitely more intriguing than Suzuki and Romanov, but until he proves it at the NHL level, I have learned to never get too scared over a MTL prospect lol
 
zeke said:
Woll actually something putting up worse numbers than he did last year.

This kid ain't a prospect.
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ya I hate to say it, but you're totally right. He has way too many deficiencies to ever make it. He can hardly stay afloat at the AHL level. Interested to see how Scott does tonight. But our goaltending depth in the system is looking very bleak. I really would not mind us spending a higher pick on a goalie this coming draft. at the current moment, I am not sure we even have a B level prospect between Woll, VV, Artur, Scott. Still lots to be determined and things can change relatively quick over the next 365 days. But man that is not a very attractive bunch. At this point my rankings for the tendy's are:

1. AA
2.VV
3.Scott
4.Woll
 
meng666 said:
I thought Robertson would probably be better. His record pace of goal scoring last year, he’d already played great and scored in the playoffs/playin against a tough team in Columbus, he’d outproduced Caulfield at the wjc and I thought Caulfield looked tepid in both wjc.
That said: the game last night changed my mind due to Coles quite obvious better skating, iq and skill set. Robertson has work ahead of him to catch up. Still happy with Robertson though.
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We are really changing our opinions on players based on one game around here? Atta be kid.
 
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TheBeastCoast said:
We are really changing our opinions on players based on one game around here? Atta be kid.
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Ah I’ve seen every single Robertson pro game though so that was weighed in. Robertson simply hasn’t played at the level Caulfield did last night and Caulfield’s performance wasn’t some random luck.
Don’t throw out terms like sample size like they are be all and end all of a discussion. Sample size has zero to do with obviously better skating, positioning, iq, etc. You could apply it to production over a stretch but it doesn’t apply to obvious skill factors.
 
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