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Do they go something like this to start next year?

Rielly - Brodie
Muzzin - Liljegren
Sandin - Holl

Not really seeing room for Dermott or Lehtonen unless Rielly is moved
 
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Updated Feburary 22nd
Mikhail Abramov QMJHL VIC
Games: 13 Goals: 5 Assists: 11 Points: 16 SOG: 46 DS: 11 Rating: +10 ESP: 15 PPP: 1 SHP: FO%: 54.0 CF%: NA TOI: NA POW: POM:

William Villeneuve QMJHL SJ
Games: 15 Goals: 1 Assists: 5 Points: 6 SOG: 43 DS: 7 Rating: +4 ESP: 3 PPP: 3 SHP: POW: POM:

Mikko Kokkonen Liga Jukurit
Games: 34 Goals: Assists: 6 Points: 6 SOG: 42 Rating: -16 ESP: 5 PPP: 1 CF%: 50.3 TOI: 21:16 POW: POM:

Axel Rindell Liga Jukurit
Games: 33 Goals: 6 Assists: 16 Points: 22 SOG: 69 Rating: -7 ESP: 14 PPP: 8 CF%: 48.9 TOI: 20:09 POW: 1 POM:

Rino Hirvonen Liga Assat
Games: 35 Goals: 6 Assists: 10 Points: 16 SOG: 60 Rating: -9 ESP: 14 PPP: 2 CF%: 46.6 TOI: 16:08 FO%: 53.8 POW: 1 POM:

Kalle Loponen Nourten SM Liga Karpat U20
Games: 32 Goals: 9 Assists: 21 Points: 30 SOG: Rating: +22 ESP: PPP: CF%: NA TOI: NA
Liga Karpat
Games: 1 Goals: Assists: Points: SOG: 1 Rating: even ESP: PPP: CF%: 78.6 TOI: 10:09

Topi Niemela Liga Karpat
Games: 15 Goals: Assists: 4 Points: 4 SOG: 23
Rating: +3 ESP: 3 PPP: 1 CF%: 63.0 NA TOI: 15:30 POW: POM:
SM Liga Karpat U20
Games: 6 Goals: 1 Assists: 3 Points: 4 SOG: Rating: even ESP: PPP: CF%: NA TOI: NA

Pontus Holmberg SHL Vaxjo
Games: 38 Goals: 7 Assists: 10 Points: 17 SOG: 50 Rating: +7 ESP: 13 PPP: 4 CF%: 56.39 TOI: 16:19 POW: 2 POM:

Filip Hallander SHL Lulea
Games: 42 Goals: 10 Assists: 10 Points: 20 SOG: 99 Rating: -1 ESP: 14 PPP: 6 CF%: 56.57 TOI: 16:58 POW: 1 POM:

Rodion Amirov KHL Salavat
Games: 36 Goals: 8 Assists: 4 Points: 12 SOG: 67 Rating: -1 ESP: 6 PPP: 6 CF%: TOI: 13:55 POW: POM:

Semyon Kizimov KHL Nizhiny
Games: 4 Goals: Assists: Points: SOG: Rating: +1 ESP: 0 PPP: CF%: NA TOI: 7:03 POW: POM:
VHL Lada
Games: 35 Goals: 7 Assists: 7 Points: 14 SOG: 45 Rating: +4 ESP: 12 PPP: 2 CF%: NA TOI: 15:38 POW: POM

SDA KHL Nizhiny
Games: 14 Goals: 2 Assists: 4 Points: 6 SOG: 26 Rating: -2 ESP: 4 PPP: 2 CF%: NA TOI: 14:32 FO%: 39.5 POW: POM:

Artur Akhtyamov KHL Bars Kazan
Games: 3 GAA: 2.90 SV%: .904 SO: POW: POM:
VHL Bars
Games: 14 GAA: 1.90 SV%: .927 SO: 1 POW: 1
Playoffs
Games: 2 GAA: 3.50 SV%: .887 SO:
POM: 1
MHL Bars
Games: 3 GAA: 1.67 SV%: .926 SO: POW: POM:

Filip Kral Chance Liga Prerov
Games: 7 Goals: 2 Assists: 8 Points: 10 SOG: 22 Rating: +4 ESP: 5 PPP: 4 SHP: 1 CF%: 56.11 TOI: 25:35 POW: POM:
Extraliga
Games: 42 Goals: 5 Assists: 12 Points: 17 SOG: 63 Rating: +8 ESP: 10 PPP: 6 SHP: 1 ESCF%: 47.90 TOI: 21:10 POW: POM:

Mac Hollowell Mestis TUTU
Games: 6 Goals: 2 Assists: 4 Points: 6 SOG: 15 Rating: even ESP: 6 PPP: SHP: CF%: 60.2 TOI: 22:08 POW: 1 POM:

Dmitri Ovchinnikov MHL Sibiriskie
Games: 37 Goals: 20 Assists: 30 Points: 50 SOG: 113 Rating: +11 ESP: 38 PPP: 10 SHP: 2 CF%: TOI: 24:00 POW: 4 POM: 2
KHL Sibir
Games: 13 Goals: Assists: 1 Points: 1 SOG: 5 Rating: even ESP: 1 PPP: SHP: CF%: TOI: 6:02 POW: POM:

Wyatt Schingoethe USHL Waterloo
Games: 23 Goals: 8 Assists: 6 Points: 14 SOG: 52 Rating: +5 ESP: 12 PPP: 1 SHP: 1 CF%: TOI: POW: 1 POM:

Joe Miller USHL Chicago
Games: 20 Goals: 3 Assists: 6 Points: 9 SOG: 23 Rating: -4 ESP: 7 PPP: 2 SHP: CF%: TOI: POW: POM:

Ryan Fusco USHL Sioux City
Games: 20 Goals: 2 Assists: 10 Points: 12 SOG: 59 Rating: -5 ESP: 7 PPP: 5 SHP: CF%: TOI: POW: POM:

Mike Koster College Minnesota
Games: 24 Goals: 2 Assists: 7 Points: 9 SOG: 35 Rating: +12 ESP: 6 PPP: 3 SHP: CF%: TOI: POW: POM:

Ryan Tverberg College Connecticut
Games: 10 Goals: 3 Assists: 2 Points: 5 SOG: 14 Rating: even ESP: 4 PPP: 1 SHP: CF%: TOI: POW: POM:

Ryan O'Connell College Ohio State
Games: 22 Goals: Assists: 5 Points: 5 SOG: 12 Rating: -7 ESP: 5 PPP: SHP: CF%: TOI: POW: POM:

Veeti Miettinen
Games: 22 Goals: 9 Assists: 13 Points: 22 SOG: 62 Rating: +10 ESP: 12 PPP: 10 SHP: CF%: TOI: POW: POM:

This is only including the guys who have started so far.
 
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Some other notes. Kizimov's team didn't make the playoffs so he is done for the season. Marlies could sign him to an ATO but I doubt thats happening. Strange year for him. He was on fire to start the year and then fell off the map.

Artur's team is down 2-0 in their series so his season in the VHL is on the line. Assuming they get eliminated, he will probably be sent back to his MHL team who should have a deep playoff run. His KHL team is also an option but likely not.

Ovi's team in the KHL won't make the playoffs so he is getting some ice time with them but still pretty low. His team in the MHL also won't make it so his year is done in Russia pretty soon. Leafs could get him an ATO with the Marlies which would be exciting but not sure Leafs will do that yet.

Thanks to Josh Simpson for some of this info.
 
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stickty111 said:
Some other notes. Kizimov's team didn't make the playoffs so he is done for the season. Marlies could sign him to an ATO but I doubt thats happening. Strange year for him. He was on fire to start the year and then fell off the map.

Artur's team is down 2-0 in their series so his season in the VHL is on the line. Assuming they get eliminated, he will probably be sent back to his MHL team who should have a deep playoff run. His KHL team is also an option but likely not.

Ovi's team in the KHL won't make the playoffs so he is getting some ice time with them but still pretty low. His team in the MHL also won't make it so his year is done in Russia pretty soon. Leafs could get him an ATO with the Marlies which would be exciting but not sure Leafs will do that yet.

Thanks to Josh Simpson for some of this info.
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Kizimov wasn't a terrible bet in the 7th round as a Russian, and he is still more than young enough to figure things out in the next 2 or 3 years. However, he was always a long shot prospect so it is no surprise that he can't get off of the ground. The good news is that Torpedo NN doesn't have exceptional depth so there should be full time opportunities for him if he is good enough to grab them.

Definitely may be an idea to get Russians who are not likely to be full time KHLers to come over to the CHL though... If they show promise internationally but may not be close to cracking a KHL squad like Kizimov. Although we should only really be considered Russians who are close to the KHL anyways.
 
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stickty111 said:
Some other notes. Kizimov's team didn't make the playoffs so he is done for the season. Marlies could sign him to an ATO but I doubt thats happening. Strange year for him. He was on fire to start the year and then fell off the map.

Artur's team is down 2-0 in their series so his season in the VHL is on the line. Assuming they get eliminated, he will probably be sent back to his MHL team who should have a deep playoff run. His KHL team is also an option but likely not.

Ovi's team in the KHL won't make the playoffs so he is getting some ice time with them but still pretty low. His team in the MHL also won't make it so his year is done in Russia pretty soon. Leafs could get him an ATO with the Marlies which would be exciting but not sure Leafs will do that yet.

Thanks to Josh Simpson for some of this info.
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Not that this is the year to do it but I would like to see our Russian kids start coming over a bit sooner. Get them into the hands of our development staff and playing in the AHL/ECHL.
 
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stickty111 said:
Some other notes. Kizimov's team didn't make the playoffs so he is done for the season. Marlies could sign him to an ATO but I doubt thats happening. Strange year for him. He was on fire to start the year and then fell off the map.

Artur's team is down 2-0 in their series so his season in the VHL is on the line. Assuming they get eliminated, he will probably be sent back to his MHL team who should have a deep playoff run. His KHL team is also an option but likely not.

Ovi's team in the KHL won't make the playoffs so he is getting some ice time with them but still pretty low. His team in the MHL also won't make it so his year is done in Russia pretty soon. Leafs could get him an ATO with the Marlies which would be exciting but not sure Leafs will do that yet.

Thanks to Josh Simpson for some of this info.
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sorry if it has already been mentioned here. I know SDA has committed to the full season in the KHL, but do you know if there is a possibility to see him with the Marlies when Torpedo's season ends?
 
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sorry if it has already been mentioned here. I know SDA has committed to the full season in the KHL, but do you know if there is a possibility to see him with the Marlies when Torpedo's season ends?
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I think thats the plan. Torpedo will be making the playoffs though so we will see him a litle later.
 
Maplebeasts said:
Going to be paying close attention again to Liljegren and Robertson. Robertson should already be up with the Leafs in place of Vesey and Liljegren looks way too good for this level. I don't see why if he keeps playing like he is the team shouldn't have him up by the TDL.
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I'm surprised they haven't called up Robertson already. Seems a good opportunity to play your top prospect instead of journeymen players that haven't been able to cease any opportunity.
 
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Kokkonen with an assist today and now has 7 points in 35 games. His Corsi is now at 51.1% on an awful team. You hope his offense and confidence in making plays shows up with the Marlies more. His play driving skills and defensive play are all there.
He's one of the candidates for my most improved prospect award this year.
 
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The only reason for him to do this is if he is getting a top 6 role right away. Outside of 3rd round pick Ronnie Attard on defense (which is pretty much the only thing of value that Western Michigan has produced), he would be the most high profile player on that team by far and likely good enough to be a top 6 center on Day 1. Also plays in a decent conference at least, but the lack of a quality program could hurt his development.

I wonder if the Leafs are telling guys like Tverberg and Schingoethe to get playing time early.
 
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Looking through Friedman's 31 Thoughts article, I wonder why the Leafs don't buy an ECHL team in a location like Brampton.. would be an interesting pipeline for development Brampton > Marlies > Leafs. I love Newfoundland too partnership though don't get me wrong, but in terms of ownership would it be a 'it doesn't make us enough money' situation?
 
How Timothy Liljegren is trying to earn another shot with the Maple Leafs - Sportsnet.ca

TORONTO — The Timothy Liljegren we got used to seeing in the AHL most of last season, wasn't the one we saw during his first taste of NHL action.

With just a single assist in limited minutes across 11 games with the Toronto Maple Leafs, the 21-year-old's play was, largely, forgettable.

After failing to make the big club out of training camp last month, the Toronto Marlies defenceman is working to rediscover the form that saw him put up 30 points in 40 AHL games last year, earn an all-star nod and had fans and experts clamouring for his call-up in the first place. And, maybe, get another crack at the NHL.

“Yeah, I think just experience,” replied the 2017 first-round pick Saturday when asked why he struggled to find his footing in the NHL.

“I feel like I've been (with the Marlies) for a long time and I know the AHL now, it makes it a little bit easier. But, yeah, I think I was kind of nervous last year when I came up and I think I played solid, but not as good as I've been down here. So (I’m) just trying to continue to play good here and, hopefully, I'll be able to translate my game from here.”

The results at the AHL level have been promising so far.

Liljegren has five assists and 14 shots in five games for the Marlies and is tied for the team lead in points.

“We're really happy with how he's doing so far. He has created a lot for us in his first couple of games and also has been strong and consistent offensively,” coach Greg Moore said last week.

Liljegren’s presence among the Marlies' early points leaders bodes well for the six-foot, 198-pound Swede.

Highly touted as a skilled, right-handed D-man coming out of the 2017 draft, Liljegren seemed to put it all together in the AHL last season. He was finally racking up points, after middling results as an underager in the two campaigns prior, and rounding out his game by showing he could be trusted in all areas of the ice.
 
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Maplebeasts said:
Going to be paying close attention again to Liljegren and Robertson. Robertson should already be up with the Leafs in place of Vesey and Liljegren looks way too good for this level. I don't see why if he keeps playing like he is the team shouldn't have him up by the TDL.
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The problem with Lily is he really crapped the bed in every audition so far.
I am thrilled he is a great prospect and I see the numbers he is putting up in the AHL, but I do not see him as an option at all for this season.
Dare I say even below MM
 
The Iceman said:
The problem with Lily is he really crapped the bed in every audition so far.
I am thrilled he is a great prospect and I see the numbers he is putting up in the AHL, but I do not see him as an option at all for this season.
Dare I say even below MM
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By every audition, I hope you mean one and the only audition. That was at a time where the team was in turmoil too.
He is an option if a RHD gets hurt which hasn't happened yet.
 
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stickty111 said:
By every audition, I hope you mean one and the only audition. That was at a time where the team was in turmoil too.
He is an option if a RHD gets hurt which hasn't happened yet.
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That and preseason when I was hoping for more.
Usually when a D is called up as an injury replacement there will be some turmoil to be dealt with.

i know you are staking your player evaluation rep on TL, and I hope you are correct. Leafs need help on the right side.
 
The Iceman said:
That and preseason when I was hoping for more.
Usually when a D is called up as an injury replacement there will be some turmoil to be dealt with.

i know you are staking your player evaluation rep on TL, and I hope you are correct. Leafs need help on the right side.
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Meh it's just pre season. Not a good tool to see what you have in a player. Plus there was no pre season this year. Even JT said Lilly looked fantastic in the scrimmage game.

Not really on the turmoil thing. The team was really struggling when he got called up, and it was tough to make an evaluation on him. Sandin didn't look great either during that time
 
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can someone help me out with a stream of tonight's game. I usually buy their Home&Away package but with how condensed the Leaf season is I didn't think it was worth the $45 (maybe if it also included the playoffs which it doesn't)

edit: I thought the game started at 7est which would explain why I couldn't find a stream
 
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The Iceman said:
That and preseason when I was hoping for more.
Usually when a D is called up as an injury replacement there will be some turmoil to be dealt with.

i know you are staking your player evaluation rep on TL, and I hope you are correct. Leafs need help on the right side.
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To be fair, that was a year ago and still a very small sample size. He looked great in the AHL last year and looks about as dominant as you can be in the AHL this year. There is nothing else for him.

If Sandin is getting opportunities in the NHL, and he hasn't looked consistently great either (especially early on), then Liljegren deserves more opportunities as well.
 
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