Prospect Info: Marlies & Prospect Discussion

[Fogelhund]

Berube doesn't coach the Marlies though.

Too bad the AHL doesn't have an exemption clause, but he'll be 20 next year so no problem.

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It doesn't help us this year, but 19 year olds in the AHL might be in the future.

 

[ULF_55]

He would've had to have a camp of camps
Berube likes his vets
London is off to avg start. Alot of talent waiting for the wjc to happen

I wasn't referring to him making the NHL this year.
More that it is too bad he couldn't have a promotion to the AHL.

But then he wouldn't be chasing the all-time point streak in the CHL.

 

[Stringer Bell]

I wonder if Vladislav Kara is half decent...

 

[Leaf Rocket]

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It doesn't help us this year, but 19 year olds in the AHL might be in the future.

Honestly this is huge. I would love this for the development of some of the prospects.

 

[uncleben]

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It doesn't help us this year, but 19 year olds in the AHL might be in the future.

Between this and NCAA eligibility for CHL players, this could drastically change the CHL landscape
Do they react and increase the import and overage limits? Or do they go in the direction and invest a little more into the Canadian minor-junior system? Or simply increase benefits and incentives for players to stay in the CHL?

 

[Fogelhund]

Between this and NCAA eligibility for CHL players, this could drastically change the CHL landscape
Do they react and increase the import and overage limits? Or do they go in the direction and invest a little more into the Canadian minor-junior system? Or simply increase benefits and incentives for players to stay in the CHL?

I would guess that it's going to be exceptional status for AHL, not a blanket. First rounders, apply for exception type of thing... the numbers aren't going to be large enough to drastically change CHL numbers... at least IMO.

The NCAA may draw more overagers... that much is for sure. I'm not sure that is a bad thing. These will mostly be undrafted players, so I'm not sure what the numbers are.

 

[ULF_55]

Between this and NCAA eligibility for CHL players, this could drastically change the CHL landscape
Do they react and increase the import and overage limits? Or do they go in the direction and invest a little more into the Canadian minor-junior system? Or simply increase benefits and incentives for players to stay in the CHL?

Remember when players tried to organize in CHL?

The Canadian Hockey League Desperately Needs A Union

The sweatshop conditions of minor hockey are about to intensify, and if our labour unions won’t help them, who will?

www.readthemaple.com

Well, NCAA may just be the ticket they needed a dozen years ago?

 

[nuck]

My understanding is that he is at C, the London Knights posted a lineup chart on their Twitter yesterday and it showed Cowan centering Jacob Julien and Cohen Bidgood. It is confusing though as Julien is listed as a C everywhere and played C last year, so I'm not sure if him and Cowan are taking turns rotating. Perhaps someone who actively watches the Knights can clarify this.

FOs are on the OHL stat sheet. Cowan is 5th on the club in faceoffs taken by quite a margin. 31 draws to Julien's 140. Even if he played all 9 games he would still be 5th so it doesn't seem like he is being used as C except when the other guy is tossed.

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

Between this and NCAA eligibility for CHL players, this could drastically change the CHL landscape
Do they react and increase the import and overage limits? Or do they go in the direction and invest a little more into the Canadian minor-junior system? Or simply increase benefits and incentives for players to stay in the CHL?

Would they have the money to compete against a professional men's league or the largest colleges?

My guess is they'll recognize top end talent will be syphoned away earlier. The correct adjustment would be to invest more in the minor leagues. Use them as a source of growth to expand into new markets and opportunities.

Otherwise they're just gonna lose all their good players for no return first chance any of them get.

 

[Fogelhund]

Cowan will be a winger in the NHL. He plays mostly wing in the OHL. He has some reps at C, but many wingers do.

 

[1specter]

FOs are on the OHL stat sheet. Cowan is 5th on the club in faceoffs taken by quite a margin. 31 draws to Julien's 140. Even if he played all 9 games he would still be 5th so it doesn't seem like he is being used as C except when the other guy is tossed.

Good point and thanks for that. That's too bad, I was hoping that'd be a new challenge for him.

 

[ULF_55]

Would they have the money to compete against a professional men's league or the largest colleges?

My guess is they'll recognize top end talent will be syphoned away earlier. The correct adjustment would be to invest more in the minor leagues. Use them as a source of growth to expand into new markets and opportunities.

Otherwise they're just gonna lose all their good players for no return first chance any of them get.

On a slightly different viewing ... could the NCAA lose their younger players?
Why go to NCAA to sit on the bench (redshirt) unless your goal is the education, and not the path to the pros?
Could the minor junior leagues lose out because some of those players (Makar) could join a Major junior team and not forfeit NCAA eligibility?
Players at 19 in AHL could also impact both NCAA and Junior leagues.

A changing landscape across North America?

 

[nuck]

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On a slightly different viewing ... could the NCAA lose their younger players?
Why go to NCAA to sit on the bench (redshirt) unless your goal is the education, and not the path to the pros?
Could the minor junior leagues lose out because some of those players (Makar) could join a Major junior team and not forfeit NCAA eligibility?
Players at 19 in AHL could also impact both NCAA and Junior leagues.

A changing landscape across North America?

I can definitely see Junior A clubs losing some talent along with USHL. These leagues benefit from being the springboard to College but guys like Celebrini and Fantilli must have known they were going to go pro after the draft so did they really want that 1 year of the College experience or were they just actively avoiding the Major Junior grind? What is the lure of the Chicago Steel to Canadian kids?

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

On a slightly different viewing ... could the NCAA lose their younger players?
Why go to NCAA to sit on the bench (redshirt) unless your goal is the education, and not the path to the pros?
Could the minor junior leagues lose out because some of those players (Makar) could join a Major junior team and not forfeit NCAA eligibility?
Players at 19 in AHL could also impact both NCAA and Junior leagues.

A changing landscape across North America?

It's probably best if they just let the kids go freely between all markets so they can go to where ever works best for them at any given moment.

Teenagers are a lot more mobile these days and plans change rapidly. The goal is to to give these kids the opportunity to do the best they can in whatever endeavour they chose. Maybe it would attract more players too if they knew it didn't have to come down to a hockey or school decision if they can feasibly do both.

Restrictions on any market will restrict it from growing... that's why they're called restrictions.