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Oshawa won and they will face London in the OHL finals. Big time test for both teams. Should be a fun matchup.
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For the Leafs, a true home grown #1 goalie is like the Holy Grail. Since Felix Potvin, I don't think we've come close - the Tuuka Rask disaster notwithstanding. Between Woll, Hildeby and AA, we can only hope one really hits for us.
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Assume Hildeby is waiver free next year so he could yo yo up and down as needed to fill in.
The perfect compliment to Woll would be Ullmark. One year left. Can be either 1A or 1B. But I doubt Boston trades him to us.
They have a guy coming they want to pair with Swayman and they want the cap space. Ullmark already blocked a trade to Kings. Curious to where he wants to go.
If we are going Free agent I would try Stolarz. He’s played well wherever he has been but has never been given a shot to be more than a 2. I think you could sell him in chance to battle for the 1 spot and still get him fairly cheap.
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It really isn't about this moment though.
It's about giving him a look at what it takes.
If he gets blown out and never recovered he didn't have it in him anyway.
And here they are today, watching the second round of the playoffs and Hildeby missed a development opportunity.
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This is a picked series hope our 2 prospects move on.
CHL Finals are on TSN
Haven't seen Minten play in awhils.
Good input.
For me, the key is limiting the term. By the end of next year, if not before, ya gotta have a good idea on the NHL versions of both Hildeby and Woll, and ideally what AA and Peksa project to be on this side of the pond. Maybe the answers are already in house for cheap.
A guy who’d willing to bet on himself as a starter for one year is the guy I want.25 off-season has goalies.
(Almost sounds like Sammy, eh?)
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Robertson - 27 points in 56 games is a ~40 point pace (was a ~20 goal pace too), which he achieved with <11 minutes icetime and <1 minute PP time per game.
For players that played 50+ games this year, he was 35th in points per 60 (just behind Rantanen, and ahead of guys like Kaprizov, Svechnikov, Hagel, Nylander, M. Tkachuk, etc). He was 15th in goals per 60, so even better. Granted, those other players face tougher competition, but also have much better linemates.
Turns 23 in the fall, so seems like prime time for a breakout?
For players that played 50+ games this year, he was 35th in points per 60 (just behind Rantanen, and ahead of guys like Kaprizov, Svechnikov, Hagel, Nylander, M. Tkachuk, etc). He was 15th in goals per 60, so even better. Granted, those other players face tougher competition, but also have much better linemates.
Turns 23 in the fall, so seems like prime time for a breakout?
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I think it would be stupid to trade him. He needs to be put in a position to succeed and play more on the PP, where he has more space to get that one timer off. I still think he has potential to put up 30 goals and maybe 55-60 pts.
23 is still young. I'm tired of trading players before they mature at the NHL game and become good to great players elsewhere.
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Yea, Stolarz is probably my top choice out of the options as well. Not because he's a fantastic option, but because the options aren't very good.
Limited sample size and he's already 30, but he has good NHL stats, including on an awful Anaheim team at times.
Can he play ~40+ games for us if needed? That's not clear, but I think your bringing him in as a quality backup/tandem guy so we can get a year to evaluate Woll without committing to a bigger contract to a guy like Samsanov.
Ideally we'd have a Martin Jones type of guy with NHL experience as a 3rd stringer as well.
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Leafs may have to explore the trade route for a goaltender.
I don't mean going after a $5mm goaltender, I mean someone who is playing behind a $5mm goaltender who might otherwise be a starter.
They do have $3.5mm tied up in a unreliable guy who they have to let walk. Can't come back with the same tandem this year.
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A very Stajan level player, which is a good thing. I hope he works hard on his skating this summer.
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Stolarz is a very injury prone guy as well.
If there isn't very many good options out there, I would honestly just bring Jones back on another cheap deal
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Top 5 UFA goalies for save % (minimum 20 games played) are:
1) Broissoit (23 GP, 0.927 save %)
2) Stolarz (27 GP, 0.925 save %)
3) Rittich (24 GP, 0.921 save %)
4) Talbot (54 GP, 0.913 save %)
5) Pickard (23 GP, 0.909 save %)
Other names with worse save %s are Reimer, Wedgewood, Raanta, Jones, Ndeljkovic, DeSmith, etc.
Only guys who have reasonably consistent careers and the proven ability to play ~45+ games are Talbot and Reimer, who are 36+ years old.
No good options.
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Stolarz iz definitely the way you go
I don't think I would want to give up assets to Boston and someone would outbid us
Woll-Stolarz tandem and when (not if) Woll gets injured, we can look at Aky or Hildeby.
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You could look at something like a trade centered around Marner for Saros, with some other pieces. Askarov is likely making the jump to the NHL next year.
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Zero interest on my end, I spent some time looking at constructing a trade with Nashville/Marner and basically didn't like anything.
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I would keep Robertson but we can’t assume more ice time is going to translate to more points. He will face tougher competition.
Could not agree more.
I've always been a big fan of Robby's skillset, but he is still a very raw player with a lot of flaws in his game. He plays the majority of his minutes far to pedestrian at this point for me to think he can manage tougher minutes.
He is still a very young player, and he has a ton of runway left to grow. That said, he will soon have to make that next step, because he's already been passed by Matty Knies on the organizational depth chart, and he may soon be passed by Easton Cowan.
I believe in Robby as a player, but I don't know if he profiles as the player we need to win in April/May/June.
I wouldn't be actively shopping him per se, but if the right package came about to upgrade our team I would be open minded to moving him for sure. Again, it's not because I don't believe in him, but more so just feel like he is soon to be passed on the organizational depth chart by Easton Cowan. I know Cowan is listed as a RW, but he's also left shot, so he likely slots into a LW role at the pro level. Certainly in our organization.
Just kind of feels like we'd soon be approaching Rasmus Sandin territory. Talented player, loads of potential, but he also has clear flaws in his game that held him back from playing the role he needed to play at the NHL level to be successful.
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We have posts complaining about the ex Leafs prospects that are still contributing in the playoffs. If we let Robertson go, we'll be complaining about losing him next. It shouldn't happen at all.
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I personally didn't feel he was a factor at all.
I thought he should have been given PP opportunities over a guy like Jarnkrok though.
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